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    2 ex pro friends bolth go overseas and buy lagit gear

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    How come everyone says AAS work great up to a certain point where more AAS wouldn't cause more muscle growth?

    If that's true why do we think these guys go over the top with their doses?

    Or is it not true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    How come everyone says AAS work great up to a certain point where more AAS wouldn't cause more muscle growth?

    If that's true why do we think these guys go over the top with their doses?

    Or is it not true?
    its not that more AAS doesn't create more muscle growth, but going from 500mg /wk to 1500mg doesn't nearly triple gains, it doesn't even double them.
    But it does triple sides, estrogen, DHT etc. so you reach the point of diminishing returns, or where you have to take so much in ancilliaries to avoid sides that you end up with negative health issues from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    its not that more AAS doesn't create more muscle growth, but going from 500mg /wk to 1500mg doesn't nearly triple gains, it doesn't even double them.
    But it does triple sides, estrogen, DHT etc. so you reach the point of diminishing returns, or where you have to take so much in ancilliaries to avoid sides that you end up with negative health issues from them.
    Ahhh I see... So gains do increase with increasing doses but on a decreasing level... thank you for clearing that for me Easy. Reps.
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    Do you think given the length of time these guys continuously use they will have to go om trt at one point or another?
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    Basically they are on TRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    its not that more AAS doesn't create more muscle growth, but going from 500mg /wk to 1500mg doesn't nearly triple gains, it doesn't even double them.
    But it does triple sides, estrogen, DHT etc. so you reach the point of diminishing returns, or where you have to take so much in ancilliaries to avoid sides that you end up with negative health issues from them.
    pretty much true for anything:
    over-eating will cause fat gain, not just muscle
    over-training will cause you to weaken you CNS, thus lessening gains

    you are much better off doing things in moderation
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    I just meant whenever they stop competing professionally in the future, will they most likely have to do trt?

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Basically they are on TRT.
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    Basically, if they want to retain any significant amount of the muscle. If they don't care, they might be able to successfully do a restart protocol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatnerj View Post
    I just meant whenever they stop competing professionally in the future, will they most likely have to do trt?
    I don't think it's most likely... I think it is without a doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I don't think it's most likely... I think it is without a doubt.
    Essentially its a chemically enhanced lifestyle. Many will go on to need trt, as well as thyroid medications, and likely other supports.

    The body is amazing, yet it is also fragile. Like unto a flower that is beautiful and yet weak, yet seems as if it is a looming mountain of great stature.
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    What is reset protocol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    What is reset protocol
    a protocol that resets your natural testosterone production
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    well i know but what is it? liek whats the protocol like how do u do it?
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    What does it matter...they could use UGL gear and you could use human grade from the US and UK and you still wouldn't look half as big...Its genetics...the fact they don't have to work a 9-5 job and their bodies just utilize it much more efficiently than the average person...so again what does it matter where they get their gear?
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    How do you get them prescribed, lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroutA View Post
    How do you get them prescribed, lol?
    Go get a blood panel with low Testosterone scores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatnerj View Post
    I just meant whenever they stop competing professionally in the future, will they most likely have to do trt?
    probably, for the reason that most of them DONT come off and do a pct.. im sure after years of a nonexistent natural hormone production, they will have to rely on replacement therapy

    on a side note: i may be wrong and not very informed of this, but it seems to me that a lot of the first generation bodybuilders are reaching old ages and in the next decade well be able to assess the adverse effects long term use caused, if any.
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    I would say before one becomes a pro bodybuilder, first they are either a steroids dealer, garage chemist, or best friends of a dealer. The size they eventually put on after easy access to all the gear they want leads them into bodybuilding.

    Bodybuilders don't turn into to steroid users, steroid users turn to bodybuilders.
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    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....
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    I am certain that they all use black market juice. They use such a large amount ..no Dr. would prescribe what they use...and how much they use.

    I also know a source in a couple cities over that has supplied big Ronnie himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndGH87 View Post
    I am certain that they all use black market juice. They use such a large amount ..no Dr. would prescribe what they use...and how much they use.

    I also know a source in a couple cities over that has supplied big Ronnie himself.
    I agree and don't doubt it
    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....
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    I am sure at least some of them even make it themselves.
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