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  1. go to bb.com the ifbb sub forum and look up Pro Tom Prince, he talks about getting all of his from US doctors and pharmacies only.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Quinc View Post
    go to bb.com the ifbb sub forum and look up Pro Tom Prince, he talks about getting all of his from US doctors and pharmacies only.
    Agreed.

    I'm still pretty sure that if people are doing this professionally, at the higher levels of competition, they aren't risking underground labs for quality and availability reasons.
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  3. I don't beleive Tom Prince, and their are quite a few things you can't get from a doctor, that all these guys are using. I can go to a doctor and get quite a bit, but you are going to be limited in the type of drugs.

    And of course he is going to say that, do you think he is going to say on BB.com that he is getting all his **** from the trunk of a car in the back of the gym.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    I don't beleive Tom Prince, and their are quite a few things you can't get from a doctor, that all these guys are using. I can go to a doctor and get quite a bit, but you are going to be limited in the type of drugs.

    And of course he is going to say that, do you think he is going to say on BB.com that he is getting all his **** from the trunk of a car in the back of the gym.

    If you read through all of his posts, hes seems pretty legit. He doesn't compete anymore or have sponsors so why would he lie? and he gives details into the cycles he ran.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=112874301

    dont know the rules on posting another forums address, but i dont think anyone is going to leave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinc View Post
    He doesn't compete anymore or have sponsors so why would he lie?
    So people still talk about him, and so he's still considered relevant to the sport.
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  6. FYI anyone can get tren/fina, they are the same thing. Fina pellets are produced for bovine as stated above. It is an incredibly potent steroid and can get you jacked like you would not believe but also causes more damage than you would care for. Also anyone can buy them, if i remember correctly i think i saw them on amazon a couple years ago.

  7. also another thing. Possibly these pros get there gear from doctors but it is still the black market. there is no way that a doctor is going to risk his practice by selling anavar, gh, primobolan, stonanzonal, test and all sorts of other anabolics on the record. These anabolics are in theory prescribed for terminally ill patients to prevent wasting or by vets to farmers, not for hormone replacement. Test and GH are the only hormones prescibed to humans for HRT that could also be abused by bodybuilders.

    Obviously Jay Cutler is not terminally ill. Therefore I would be willing to wager a hefty sum of money that he gets his gear illegaly.

    Their is also something called doctor shopping where you go around and get a bunch of the same drug from multiple doctors. If they do that, that is also illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    Test and GH are the only hormones prescibed to humans for HRT that could also be abused by bodybuilders.
    Not true. deca can be prescribed for arthritis and joint issues, winstrol can be prescribed also for TRT if someone has high SHBG.
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  9. deca can be presrcibed for arthritis? I have not heard that one but seriously talk about a red flag. That would not make sense.

    Also I have not heard of winny, a low adrogenic steroid, being used for
    T(testosterone)RT, it simply doesn't make sense.

    So a 300 pound dude walks into a doctor and says, "i need some deca for my arthritis, some winny for my TRT, also some T for my TRT, some HGH for my terminal illness and also some HCG so my balls dont shut down. Oh yeah and hook me up with some nolva too, thanks. And did i mention I would need enough for about 5 people?" No sane legal doctor will do that. It is black market.
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    Thats a very nice opinion, but just because you believe it doesn't mean its true. I on the other hand have a TRT doctor who does prescribe those items if your medical history and blood tests show the need and stay in reasonable levels.
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  11. I just wrote a big long thread then i erased it, all i am going to say if you really beleive all the drugs these guys are getting comes from a doc, you are pretty naive.


    Easy, i know quite a few docs who prescribe that stuff as well, do you get it from a compounding pharmacy?
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    yep sure is

  13. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yep sure is
    The reason i ask is because i think those uses are off label. I was under the impression the only drugs approved for anything in this country anymore was anavar and test, with possibly drol back in the mix. I may be wrong, and if you have any info pertaining to those drugs being approved for those conditions i would like to read it, i just did a quick google but could not find what i was looking for.
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    There are a couple of studies on deca and arthritis in the elderly, but i'm not sure about approval either by the FDA or the AMA. The winstrol I have no idea, just noticed it on their monthly specials one time.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    There are a couple of studies on deca and arthritis in the elderly, but i'm not sure about approval either by the FDA or the AMA. The winstrol I have no idea, just noticed it on their monthly specials one time.
    first JCP makes you look like a tool for lying about the drugs your doctor pedals and then...

    earlier you mentioned those drugs were used for those conditions and now you say you have no idea. Thanks for contributing to the thread bro.

    GTFO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    first JCP makes you look like a tool for lying about the drugs your doctor pedals and then...

    earlier you mentioned those drugs were used for those conditions and now you say you have no idea. Thanks for contributing to the thread bro.

    GTFO!
    Are you retarded? I didn't lie about anything, and he asked specifically for information related to APPROVAL of those items for those uses. Plenty of items are prescribed for off-label uses, a good example is viagra or cialis for high blood pressure. That doesn't mean there is any official approval of those uses. Get a grip.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Are you retarded? I didn't lie about anything, and he asked specifically for information related to APPROVAL of those items for those uses. Plenty of items are prescribed for off-label uses, a good example is viagra or cialis for high blood pressure. That doesn't mean there is any official approval of those uses. Get a grip.
    I am aware of what off label uses are.

    However your story of your doctor prescribing deca for arthritis and winny for TRT doesnt pan out man just as JCP mentioned before. Using viagra for high blood pressure is one thing but deca for arthritis is another.

    As i said before GTFO rep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    I am aware of what off label uses are.

    However your story of your doctor prescribing deca for arthritis and winny for TRT doesnt pan out man just as JCP mentioned before. Using viagra for high blood pressure is one thing but deca for arthritis is another.

    As i said before GTFO rep!
    i guess this is proof you are either retarded, or just can't read, as jcp also said he knows doctors who prescibe them. so why don't you gtfo moron

  19. don't be hatin
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    I'm just touchy when someone calls me a liar. Personal ethics thing
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  21. I wasn't trying to prove anybody wrong, i was just looking for info on if those drugs were approved for those uses in this country. You are pretty much protected, but i would not want to be explaining to a federal prosecutor why i prescribe steroids as off label meds to 50 guys.
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    Yeah I think overall as funny as it sounds the approval is more an issue for whether insurance pays for it or not than anything else. My particular TRT doc is partr of a longevity clinic so they sort of push the boundary
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  23. It would be interesting to see a cycle of one of the top pros. It would be pretty scary to see how much test, slin, HGH etc these guys are abusing!

  24. There is a link 2/3 of the page up to a BB.com thread where a IFBB pro shows one of his cycles for a past contest.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    There is a link 2/3 of the page up to a BB.com thread where a IFBB pro shows one of his cycles for a past contest.
    Oh, never saw that - Thanks!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    There is a link 2/3 of the page up to a BB.com thread where a IFBB pro shows one of his cycles for a past contest.
    One of the message boards i was on many years ago had a guy who won the Jr. USA's, and he posted his. I can't remember if he put it on the open board or not. One thing that stuck out in my mind was it was alot of slin, even during pre contest dieting.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    You may remember Hidetada Yamagishi got busted for steroids, and he's top 10 at the Olympia.
    Yeah but the top 10 prob deal and distribute for the xtra cash on top of using....sponsors dont come calling til later if at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    One of the message boards i was on many years ago had a guy who won the Jr. USA's, and he posted his. I can't remember if he put it on the open board or not. One thing that stuck out in my mind was it was alot of slin, even during pre contest dieting.
    and you have to keep in mind that also SOMETIMES the pros just say and post **** like that so people talk about them.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    and you have to keep in mind that also SOMETIMES the pros just say and post **** like that so people talk about them.
    No, it was actually very detailed. He was not bull****ting. I know what you mean though. You would be surprised what some powerlifters take, i know my jaw dropped when a few people told me the amount of test they would run.

  30. Titus whatever his last name was, was notorious for taking huge amounts of test.

    I personally see that as kinda stupid, as your body is just gonna get used to that much and then need that much or more in the future.

    And yea, most pro's use ungodly amounts of slin it seems. enough to make you a diabetic. There is a Jay Cutler Vid where he opens his fridge and there is like 5-6 vials of the stuff just chillin next to his condements. lol.
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