Did Serge Nubret and Frank Zane have 18'' arms?
04-08-2009 11:14 AM
Its not so much the size that gives that huge appearance, Arnold had extremely rounded and full muscle bellies with low insertions. Coupled with very small joints, e.g wrist and elbow. Gives the illusion of hug arms.
Originally Posted by chess315
Hell mine are taping 18.5" just now at just under 10% BF. But since I dont have Arnold muscle bellies and joints, my arms do look big but very far from huge.
I dont see what waist size has to do with the appearance of the bcieps/triceps, unless you arms are hanging down by your sides.
04-13-2009 12:45 PM
This is very true. I weigh in the 150's in my avatar pic, at about 5'6"-7". I have very small joints and pretty full muscle bellies and people think my arms are huge. You can have 17-18" arms below 200lbs, it has a lot to do with organ and bone weight/size. I must have tiny organs and thin bones that are hollow...lol.
Originally Posted by pumbertot
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09-02-2009 11:41 AM
I competed as a top natural for many years and after a few recent cycles my largest arm during my last cycle measured 20.5" pumped - with BF around 14% it didn't look as impressive as when I competed natural and had 18-18.5" arms pumped at 5% BF. I competed against some of the greatest natural BBers in the world i.e. Andrew Palmer who at around 180lbs 5' 7" and 4-5% bf sported genuine 18" arms. Rob Hope one of the greatest naturals of all time sports 18" arms at 5' 6" at around 170lbs. I also had the priviledge of training for some time with a bodybiulding legend - Wilf Sylvester who at 5' 4 sported 19" arms in competition condition, so bodyweight has little to do with it when you are talking about the top guys. Serge Nubret competed at around 94-95kgs too - 207 -209lbs.
I'd guess that Serge certainly had 19" arms at least and Zane 17"+ - height plays a bigger part than weight in determining measurements - Nubret was quite tall, and Zane was not short around 5' 8"??
09-02-2009 12:48 PM
Serge Nubret was never 6'1". He was listed at 5'11'' but probably was never that tall. Zane was 5' 9". Arnold admitted on a television talk show that he was 6'1'' even though he was listed as 6'2". He's probably a little shorter now.
09-03-2009 05:41 AM
I agree with you on the height of these guys if you look at Nubret he was shorter than Arnold. For me 19"+ arms on a 5'11" - 6' top class BBer such as Nubret looks about right. Zane was not short and if indeed his arms were 18" (probably pumped) then 17" or so cold would look about right at his height.
The largest arms I saw in person (I haven't met any of today's pro's) where those sported by an in his prime Lance Dreher, still imo the greatest lower bicep/insertion in BBing and I can believe the claim of 22"+
10-08-2009 12:33 PM
Sounds like a lot of you guys are getting hung up on graphs and equations etc. I'm 6'1 with fairly low BF. 17.5" arms and 18s pumped. I've never been on gear yet. Maybe by next year I'll have 20's on gear. Btw I'm 205lbs AM, 212 PM weight. Currently "clean bulking."
I'll post pics in a few min for those that claim BLASPHEMY! haha
10-08-2009 01:26 PM
Just copy and paste (i don't have 50 posts so no links for me)
02-18-2010 11:37 PM
Frank Zane was probably talking about when he was in his bigger stages in the mid to late 80's era. When he was winnin Mr. O there is no way he had 18's but later on I can easily see it when he traded some cuts for more mass.
02-19-2010 02:01 AM
Originally Posted by SergioAnthony
Actually in the late 60's Frank Zane had a lot more mass than he did in his Mr O days
02-19-2010 02:32 PM
Yeah true he did, I forgot about that I was just thinkin about when he was shredded lol.
04-10-2010 02:51 AM
i know they both have sick ass ****ing genetics
08-09-2010 01:17 PM
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