Michael lockett natural?

[Jayhawkk]

there's something called genetics my friend. most black guys have these naturally then white guys; although not always the case. germans and northern European ppl are known for muscular genetics, some even more so than the west africans. west africa is where the super muscles come from while east african they run 50 miles per day starting at a young age intill there adults and are twigs. do some studying on continents and who are the most genetically muscular ppl for this sport.

see many Asian bodybuilders...no because they dotn have the genetics for the sport.

I never heard black ppl complaining about genetics its always these small white boys that have sucky ones and cant get big.

so generally it goes something like this as far as genetics in this sport..
Black people
White people


and I'm white. just open your eyes and look around. and i know its an ego bash to some of you that have sucky genetics . its always the skinny white boys complaining. man up and do the best with what you have and just come to terms with it

Sort of went on a tangent along with trying to place reason on the user's response, didn't ya? lol

Genetics play a role, sure. However, if what he quoted was true then I would would strongly suspect he was lying about being natural or about what he ate.

[Rugger]

Ive proved me point you have no wrong to talk if your arnt big yourself mooch because you haven't ever been big and most likely don't have genetics like Micheal. in other words I know more than you on this subject...post all your want Ill present the facts while you keep looking ignorant and keep being small.

What does Mooch being big have to do with anything? Does someone have to be huge to be knowledgeable? You claim to be bigger than him and you can't even put a sentence together, never mind responding to his arguments without resorting to petty insults. Can't you come up with anything more substantive?

[ThomasRivera]

natural bodybuilders are being tested before and after shows every one of them starting in 2009 Distilled.

also do I believe its possible that micheal lockett is natural? Yes I do

do i think he is? i could care less if he is or isn't. I believe he was when he was saying he was. is he still saying it? then i have no doubts in my mind. enough said again most black guys have better genetics than white guys and if you havent met any you haven't trained (at least the few Ivebeen too) (and Ive been to mostly all white ones as well)in a hardcore gym or you've been secluded not to see this.

WSM competitions say otherwise.

[Apowerz6]

First off if you read and then knew Micheal Lockett you would know he is Jamaican, not the typical american Black man. 2 different genepools not corrupted by over processed food and such. Now since all of you armchair bb'ers, and mouse clickers know so damn much, look at Kai Greene before he used steroids, look at Brandon Curry before he used steroids, but wait Ronnie Coleman won his pro qualifier with no steroids. There are many many top bb'ers that are natural just open your fockin eyes.

And I wont even go into the jail system please tell me that have steroids in jail, and I will laugh your ass back to your mouse, and chips you call life.

This thread was such a Bb.com thread and I am ashamed I even responded to one ignorant asinine idiot.

In additon I know many top Carribean BB'ers and you know to represent a country you have to be drug tested, not saying all of them are clean, but look at some of these:Google Image Result for http://www.jonesbahamas.com/tpllib/img.php?im=cat_123/17342.jpg&w=300&h=375

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http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...bodychamps.JPG

[Apowerz6]

WSM competitions say otherwise.

Hmm obviously you have not been to the Arnold Classics. Or to some Powerlifting Meets...

Television does not dictate facts

Do a search and then post up...

[ThomasRivera]

Hmm obviously you have not been to the Arnold Classics. Or to some Powerlifting Meets...

Television does not dictate facts

Do a search and then post up...

I haven't been to Arnold Classics or any pro powerlifting meets, I don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand though. Television doesn't dictate facts, you're right, but theres a difference between a televised event and television. The WSM competition isn't for show. It's really ludicrous to suggest that blacks are generally more gifted than whites and vice versa. I could easilly say Ryan Kennelly holds the worlds heaviest bench record so theres no chance blacks have better genetics.

[ThomasRivera]

Additionally, how do you know that these guys didn't juice? Do you judge that by physique? Or do you have access to testing records with a broad enough spectrum of tests that would've shown they tested negative for a wide range of AAS?

[tirtle88]

First off if you read and then knew Micheal Lockett you would know he is Jamaican, not the typical american Black man. 2 different genepools not corrupted by over processed food and such. Now since all of you armchair bb'ers, and mouse clickers know so damn much, look at Kai Greene before he used steroids, look at Brandon Curry before he used steroids, but wait Ronnie Coleman won his pro qualifier with no steroids. There are many many top bb'ers that are natural just open your fockin eyes.

And I wont even go into the jail system please tell me that have steroids in jail, and I will laugh your ass back to your mouse, and chips you call life.

This thread was such a Bb.com thread and I am ashamed I even responded to one ignorant asinine idiot.

In additon I know many top Carribean BB'ers and you know to represent a country you have to be drug tested, not saying all of them are clean, but look at some of these:Google Image Result for http://www.jonesbahamas.com/tpllib/img.php?im=cat_123/17342.jpg&w=300&h=375

Google Image Result for http://www.triniview.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.Download Item&g2_itemId=261631&g2_seria lNumber=8

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...bodychamps.JPG

While you have a point... Let me just make it clear that prisoners do have access to steriods!!! My security coworker worked as a corrections officer for the last 18 years and he is in to bodybuilding too, and said they would hook up the prisoners with anything for the right price.Especially steriods like he told me its all about being top dawg in jail.

[John Smeton]

Sort of went on a tangent along with trying to place reason on the user's response, didn't ya? lol

Genetics play a role, sure. However, if what he quoted was true then I would would strongly suspect he was lying about being natural or about what he ate.

yeah I guess so. Just making a point about genetics. Gee it would be so much easier if we all were Brock Lesnars.

[Jayhawkk]

First off if you read and then knew Micheal Lockett you would know he is Jamaican, not the typical american Black man. 2 different genepools not corrupted by over processed food and such. Now since all of you armchair bb'ers, and mouse clickers know so damn much, look at Kai Greene before he used steroids, look at Brandon Curry before he used steroids, but wait Ronnie Coleman won his pro qualifier with no steroids. There are many many top bb'ers that are natural just open your fockin eyes.

And I wont even go into the jail system please tell me that have steroids in jail, and I will laugh your ass back to your mouse, and chips you call life.

Woah, hold up there boss! You can't call other's armchair BBer's by giving opinions and then counter with an 'opinion' and say it's more legit then theirs. You say Ronnie won being juice free but that is based off of what, exactly? Both sides are making their arguments based off limited facts and information. Neither side can actually be proven.

Now let's get into something I actually know a little bit on... No steroids in the jail system? I know for a fact that you're wrong. Anything you can get on the streets you can get in jail. Ever think it would be slightly easier to get hold and store oral steroids than it would be to maintain jailhouse tattoo material? I do.

[Apowerz6]

Woah, hold up there boss! You can't call other's armchair BBer's by giving opinions and then counter with an 'opinion' and say it's more legit then theirs. You say Ronnie won being juice free but that is based off of what, exactly? Both sides are making their arguments based off limited facts and information. Neither side can actually be proven.

Now let's get into something I actually know a little bit on... No steroids in the jail system? I know for a fact that you're wrong. Anything you can get on the streets you can get in jail. Ever think it would be slightly easier to get hold and store oral steroids than it would be to maintain jailhouse tattoo material? I do.

Well point taken...
I do know Co's and I know about their usage. I call them arm chair bb'ers cause they dont put up any pics,all they do is hate when people are doing there thing. I still stand by my opinoins on Carribean Bb'ers because I know quite a few, and I have seen how all natty can look. But whatever haters are everywhere.

[Apowerz6]

I haven't been to Arnold Classics or any pro powerlifting meets, I don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand though. Television doesn't dictate facts, you're right, but theres a difference between a televised event and television. The WSM competition isn't for show. It's really ludicrous to suggest that blacks are generally more gifted than whites and vice versa. I could easilly say Ryan Kennelly holds the worlds heaviest bench record so theres no chance blacks have better genetics.

Never said anybody was genetically more gifted, just making a point blacks do compete in WSM and powerlifting events.

[Jayhawkk]

I know a lot of people from St. Thomas and Jamaica and their genetics are amazing, no doubt. I know several of them who are lifters and are, by all accounts, natural but they aren't Ronnie Coleman's even in his pre-distended gut days. It seems their lower bodies are really where they are the most gifted. Quad sweeps that are just amazing.

[mooch2321]

havent been on in a day but regardless of the way this thread has turned i still want to apologize to smeton...i dont want to perpetuate an online battle that can never be decided...so...agree to disagree? oh and by the way i am not small...im 5'10 215lbs at about 10 percent right now...ive been doing this shiz for a while...and smeton please stop leaving me those rude neg comments...if your gonna be a ****, have the balls to do it in the open on the forum.

[John Smeton]

Woah, hold up there boss! You can't call other's armchair BBer's by giving opinions and then counter with an 'opinion' and say it's more legit then theirs. You say Ronnie won being juice free but that is based off of what, exactly? Both sides are making their arguments based off limited facts and information. Neither side can actually be proven.

Now let's get into something I actually know a little bit on... No steroids in the jail system? I know for a fact that you're wrong. Anything you can get on the streets you can get in jail. Ever think it would be slightly easier to get hold and store oral steroids than it would be to maintain jailhouse tattoo material? I do.

your not exactly an arm clicker Jayhawk, Youve got nothing to worry about. Point is some simply have better genetics than others . one can use all they want they just dont have those NATURAL genetics. sad but true.

[John Smeton]

Well point taken...
I do know Co's and I know about their usage. I call them arm chair bb'ers cause they dont put up any pics,all they do is hate when people are doing there thing. I still stand by my opinoins on Carribean Bb'ers because I know quite a few, and I have seen how all natty can look. But whatever haters are everywhere.

most of the people don't post there pics because embarrassed of it. and I can feel that pain. I was kind of there at one point in my life and never ever have been embarrassed of myself!

[Rugger]

most of the people don't post there pics because embarrassed of it. and I can feel that pain. I was kind of there at one point in my life and never ever have been embarrassed of myself!

Or because they don't care what some jackass on the internet thinks

[mooch2321]

Or because they don't care what some jackass on the internet thinks

lol...how true...mabye i will post some now tho...u know...just to show you guys my "genetics"

[John Smeton]

lol...how true...mabye i will post some now tho...u know...just to show you guys my "genetics"

lol . nice:donut:

[John Smeton]

Or because they don't care what some jackass on the internet thinks

dude I saved you a lot by telling you are not ready for Dcd. i saw your post over at intensemuscle about how some guy hurt your feelings for telling you you are not ready for Dc. and then all the Dc guys jumped in on the thread and told you your not ready. i wouldnt have told you. from now on though your own your ownj on here I dont have time for your stupid bs because your hurt inside because your not ready for Dc. It takes a long time to build intensity for Dc and simply put your not ready. Your a child inside and need to learn how to do with your emotions.