Joe Biden and our sport

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  1. Obama already publicly stated he could give a rats a$$ about AAS and thinks the govt has wasted a lot of time and tax payer money on an issue that should be taken care of by baseball not the govt.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jminis View Post
    Obama already publicly stated he could give a rats a$$ about AAS and thinks the govt has wasted a lot of time and tax payer money on an issue that should be taken care of by baseball not the govt.
    That is how it should be.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    AAS users have NO friends in congress or elsewhere..period.

    NAMBLA stands a better chance of gaining support..lolololol.
    Don't hate just because we look like Marlon Brando
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Then it would come from the IFBB and not the gov't.
    The pressure would come from the government. IIRC, during the last hearings (where HGH was a big topic, not the '05 ones), a Congresswoman was making a big stretch to justify the government's authority in this matter, stating that steriods/HGH created an unlevel playing field, and since the fans pay money to see a real competition and not a predetermined outcome (like prof. wrestling), it becomes fraud to the fans as performance enhancers can ultimately change the result of the game. They could apply pressure on the leagues (or in bodybuilding's case, federation) by threatening the fraud charges.

    Can't say I really agree with her use of that logic, especially when it's spending all that time & money in Congress on the hearings & investigations.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    The pressure would come from the government. IIRC, during the last hearings (where HGH was a big topic, not the '05 ones), a Congresswoman was making a big stretch to justify the government's authority in this matter, stating that steriods/HGH created an unlevel playing field, and since the fans pay money to see a real competition and not a predetermined outcome (like prof. wrestling), it becomes fraud to the fans as performance enhancers can ultimately change the result of the game. They could apply pressure on the leagues (or in bodybuilding's case, federation) by threatening the fraud charges.

    Can't say I really agree with her use of that logic, especially when it's spending all that time & money in Congress on the hearings & investigations.
    I think there's a mistake in your thinking, like where you referred to what she said as logic.

    Major league baseball has had its share of pre-determined games, and none of them had anything to do with steroids or HGH.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I think there's a mistake in your thinking, like where you referred to what she said as logic.

    Major league baseball has had its share of pre-determined games, and none of them had anything to do with steroids or HGH.
    I was using definition #2 of logic

    2: something that forces a decision apart from or in opposition to reason

  7. Arlen Spector is another major opponent of AAS, plus anybody that was on the Warren Commission and championed the "Single bullet therory" in the Kennedy assasination really should retire

    :bruce3:

  8. I'm going to say this: professional BBing is NOT a sport; it is a competition. When the outcome is solely determined by the opinions of others, it is not a sport. They are tremendous competitors, but there is too much politics to say it is a true sport.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  9. Quote Originally Posted by Brolic View Post
    Joe biden is pretty much anti AAS, do anyone that this will have any effect on the npc and Ifbb

    why do people want to do AAS so bad anyway. I dont understand why people care so much about that stuff. I guess they are just not okay with who they are. The stuff is illegal so just use it illegally and know the risks. I personally don't want to see that stuff legal. I really dont want to be surrounded by tons of douche bags twice my size. Because honestly people that use AAS for aesthetic purposes are total douche bags.

    And really if they use them to cheat then they are douche bags too. Really all AAS users are just douche bags.

    1 or 2 cycles for experimentation is understandable

  10. What fails to be mentioned, in these posts and with all arguments regarding the government vs. league debate, is that the use of AAS is ILLEGAL. The law, however, is a matter of governmental jurisdiction.

    But, I do agree there are bigger fish to fry...

  11. Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    why do people want to do AAS so bad anyway. I dont understand why people care so much about that stuff. I guess they are just not okay with who they are. The stuff is illegal so just use it illegally and know the risks. I personally don't want to see that stuff legal. I really dont want to be surrounded by tons of douche bags twice my size. Because honestly people that use AAS for aesthetic purposes are total douche bags.

    And really if they use them to cheat then they are douche bags too. Really all AAS users are just douche bags.

    1 or 2 cycles for experimentation is understandable
    all AAS users are douchebags...with an exclusion for those few cycles you did?

    never fully recovered. PCT years later?



  12. I never did anything illegal as far as supplemenatation goes.

    like i said i can understand taking it just a couple times to see what would happen. Which is what i did. Hey life is about experiences.

    but guys who regularly take roids to be something that they are not, well those are douche bags. you know who you are

  13. I think BB is too small of a sport to draw attention.
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