Bodybuilders and gyno surgery
- 09-17-2008, 08:03 PM
- 09-21-2008, 01:49 PM
gyno is something that is inevitable when u are running the amount of juice that these guys are. its gonna happen....im sure many, many bodybuilders have done this quietly during the offseason.
09-25-2008, 01:47 PM
from what ive read and heard most bbers get gyno removed on a fairly regular basis...look at some of the pictures of Ronnie, Paco Batustia, Johnnie Jackson...they all had gyno at some point and had it removed...it seems to be a pretty common occurrence...dr.blau does most of the pro's surgeries i believe, at least i know he is responsible for dave palumbos and a few others
09-25-2008, 02:25 PM
09-25-2008, 02:53 PM
From Dr. Blau's website...this should help clarify
Although recurrence of gynecomastia is not common after excision by an experienced Board Certified Plastic Surgeon, it is possible.
In our practice, recurrence is exceedingly rare (fewer than 2% of our patients experience recurrence). For this reason, our policy is to not charge a surgeon’s fee for recurrence. True gynecomastia is caused mainly by excess glandular tissue, which causes a protrusion of the nipple-areola complex (puffy nipples). In our practice our goal is to remove over 90% of the mammary gland, which leaves enough glandular tissue to support the nipple-areola complex and prevent concavity of the areola, which itself may be aesthetically objectionable.
The inexperienced surgeon may leave more glandular tissue than is necessary. This excess glandular tissue may become noticeable once the person becomes leaner or when the initial post-surgical edema (swelling) demises over the first few weeks.
Conditions that may imitate gynecomastia recurrences but are not related to glandular tissue may include the following:
A. Initial edema swelling for the first few months after surgery
B. Weight gain
C. Scar tissue
Because young people naturally undergo very intense healing processes, they may experience excess production of fibrous tissue (scar). It sounds paradoxical but it is the realty.
Post-surgical use of anabolic steroids following partial removal of the glandular tissue may produce a recurrence of true gynecomastia. To minimize the chances of recurrence in bodybuilders it is essential to excise most of the sub-areola glandular tissue and the entire medial “head” and “lateral” tail of the hypertrophied glandular tissues.
In the rare instance that endocrine disease produces hormonal changes that cause enlarged male breasts, the plastic surgeon should be especially aggressive in trying to prevent recurrence. In these instances excision of most of the gland is of paramount importance.
In conclusion the most important factor for prevention of recurrence is complete excision of the glandular tissue. In many instances liposuction alone, regardless of the method employed (ultrasound, lazar, etc.), is insufficient in completely eradicating this condition.
09-29-2008, 10:50 AM
09-29-2008, 05:08 PM
09-29-2008, 05:14 PM
"The Rock" admitted to having surgery done on his pecs, also in the same interview he admitted to steroids. This was in an issue of GQ a while back. My 2 cents
10-05-2008, 07:43 AM
10-10-2008, 11:05 AM
Ronnie had them removed and they did re-appear later.
Even Haney had them removed, visible in 1989 but not in 1991.
You can not knowingly remove all the estrogen receptors in that area so although it should never come back as bad, if you have a lot of receptors in that area it will surely return.
03-05-2009, 07:54 PM
how long are you out after surgery? how long before you can hit the gym again, especially a chest workout?
03-05-2009, 08:05 PM
03-05-2009, 08:19 PM
04-03-2009, 06:00 AM
Today I had my gyno surgery. I finally stepped up to the plate and did it. This is my story about how it went.
I have had this gyno since I first hit puberty. I was always pretty skinny buy I had a pointy chest, this stopped me from going to the beach with my shirt off when I got a little older, I never went to the pools etc. It really bothered me. I thought at first I must have had fat around my chest because I was just unlucky and this is where my fat was stored. I started working out when I was around 22 and went to the gym 5 days a week. I toned up and got to be very skinny but the fat around my chest never seemed to get any lower. I searched on Google and came across many sites and thatís when I first thought that I might have had gyno. I didnít do anything about it until I was 24 because I was scared of going under the knife. Well finally I decided that something had to be done.
I started searching the net for surgeons who could do the surgery and ended up deciding to use Dr. Ashley Granot from the Ashley Centre in Melbourne. I went to see him for a consultation and had all the blood tests. It turns out that all my blood work was perfectly normal for a guy my age. They didnít have a reason why I had gyno; it was just one of those things. Anyway the surgery set me back $4500 all up including EVERYTHING.
On the day that I was going into surgery I wasnít allowed to eat anything for 6 hours before operation. I went in and I was nervous as anything. They got me to strip down into a surgical gown and the nurse gave me an intramuscular injection into my glute, it was pain killer and relaxants. I thought it was going to hurt but it didnít hurt that much at all. After that another nurse put a drip into my arm, I thought it was going to hurt again, but it didnít, they put heaps of saline into the drip.
After about 15 minutes of waiting for the drugs to kick in the doctor came into the room and cut an incision into my armpit. He inserted a clear plastic tube into the incision and started to pump me full of muscle relaxants, pain killer and something to dilute the fat. He put about 800mls into my chest. After that we waited another 15 minutes for the pain killer and fat diluting solution to start working. The inserting of the clear plastic tube was the most painful part of the surgery. I think painful is a bit harsh of a word. I would say it was VERY uncomfortable. As he was pushing in the tube I could feel the fat ripping away from the muscle below it.
After that he got the liposuction canula and started sucking out the fat. This took a fair while and didnít hurt for the most part. A few times he hit a hard part of fat which would hurt very slightly but it was bearable. When he finished sucking out all the fat there was still a bit of breast tissue which he could not get out through the canula because it was too hard. So he made an incision around my nipple and pulled it out with some tweezer looking things and he just cut it. This was uncomfortable as I could feel the tissues being ripped out of my chest. But it didnít hurt. After this was done he sewed me up and I could sit up and put on my compression vest.
Throughout the entire procedure I was awake and could see what was going on. I was sedated but not fully knocked out. The doctor said he did not want to give me general anesthetic and knock me out fully because that was too risky for a minor procedure. He said something like 1 in 10,000 people die from an allergic reaction to general anesthetic or something like that. Plus I wanted to be awake because I didnít want anything to stuff up and I had heard some horror stories about doctors cutting out chest muscles and stuff like that. I was talking throughout the whole procedure, probably a lot of jibberish cause of all the relaxants but yea.
All in all I am happy that I finally have my gyno gone and I have a flat chest. I only did the surgery this morning and I am already up and about. It doesnít hurt much at all, it just feels like a really hard gym workout session and I canít lift my arms over my head. Other than that I got some pain killers but I donít even need them. If you are thinking about doing this, just DO IT. Donít be scared of the surgery itís not that bad.
If you have any questions ill be happy to answer them. Tomorrow I have to go back to the surgery for a post op check up.
My chest is FLAT!!!!!!!
Hope I have helped someone out there!
04-04-2009, 08:42 AM
Awesome, and congratulations on your successful procedure. This is my first read of someone sharing their personal experience with gyno removal surgery. I must admit it sounds uncomfortable and a bit painful, but I'm sure in your case it was well worth it.
Thanks a ton for sharing with us.
04-04-2009, 12:36 PM
Man, I can't believe they kept you awake for the whole thing. I don't know if I could sit there and watch someone remove pieces of my body like that. One of my best friends had gyno surgery and they put him completley under. He had to wear a compression vest for 4 weeks and said he was really sore, but that the actual surgery was not a problem at all.
04-04-2009, 10:38 PM
04-08-2009, 08:45 AM
04-08-2009, 09:01 AM
04-08-2009, 09:12 AM
04-08-2009, 10:52 AM
My brother had this done under a general and also found the recovery to be pretty painfree. Depends on your pain threshold, some people will think this is the most painfull thing ever. Only if you doused them in petrol and lit them up would they realise what TRUE pain is.
04-08-2009, 04:33 PM
I played around real young, ran cycles of andro and m1t when it very first came out. On top of those, I was poppin other pills like crazy. I was taking 4 sometimes 6 pills a day of the original m1t!! I had no idea about pct's or anything of the ill effects on my body. I figured, hey, if its legal, it must be safe right? Then i figured, hey, if 3 is goos, then 6 is better right? So right after i finished my andro and m1t, i ran a cycle of dbol and test, again, isaid right after m1t and andro. I started passing out randomly in the gym, I was a correction officer at the time, and i was fukcin enraged all the time. I was always sweating. About a year later i had full on D cups. I got my surgery about a year later, and when i woke up, i looked great!! THEN- two days later, my chest was swollen and filled with fluid, bigger than it was when I went in for the surgery. Little did I know but i had developed a hematoma and seroma on both sides.(that is blood and other fluids like puss ). My arrogant surgeon wouldnt see me, said that he didnt have time until end of week, and that my condition was normal. I could feel these weird lines running from my chest to my abdomen, on the inside. Apparently, the fluid was leaking into my abdomen. Two days later my stitches burst on a job site, and i dropped almost a pint and a half of blood on the floor. I was taken to the ER and my blood pressure was 79/25, which is dangerously low. So ended up ok, but i had to have slits cut into my chest on the sides with tubes hanging out for over a month. If my sutures hadnt burst outward, then the blood and puss would have leaked into my body more and could kill me. There you have it.
04-08-2009, 06:40 PM
04-08-2009, 06:45 PM
04-08-2009, 10:15 PM
Great post dedlifter.. sorry to hear about your inconveneince..
Also, that surgeon is a major punk- I'm pretty sure you have a basis for a lawsuit right there.. Either way, glad to hear you back in the gym and everything worked out for you.
04-09-2009, 12:14 AM
04-09-2009, 05:50 AM
04-13-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm glad to hear that all ended well, buddy. Your story definitely sheds some light in regard to the gross reality of the situation. Thanks for sharing my man. Surgery is surgery; complications are always a possibility.
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04-14-2009, 03:38 AM
But the way you feel about newbs is justified, many are so ignorant of AAS use and dont inform themselves before going down that route. Very stupid.
04-14-2009, 06:05 AM
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