Bodybuilders and gyno surgery
04-08-2009 09:52 AM
Why does it? Sounds like a perfectly straight forward minor surgical procedure to me. Yeah the odds of problems under a general are very small indeed, much safer than driving a car or crossing the street.
Originally Posted by zacklewis
My brother had this done under a general and also found the recovery to be pretty painfree. Depends on your pain threshold, some people will think this is the most painfull thing ever. Only if you doused them in petrol and lit them up would they realise what TRUE pain is.
04-08-2009 03:33 PM
Well, here goes
Originally Posted by Iron Lungz
I played around real young, ran cycles of andro and m1t when it very first came out. On top of those, I was poppin other pills like crazy. I was taking 4 sometimes 6 pills a day of the original m1t!! I had no idea about pct's or anything of the ill effects on my body. I figured, hey, if its legal, it must be safe right? Then i figured, hey, if 3 is goos, then 6 is better right? So right after i finished my andro and m1t, i ran a cycle of dbol and test, again, isaid right after m1t and andro. I started passing out randomly in the gym, I was a correction officer at the time, and i was fukcin enraged all the time. I was always sweating. About a year later i had full on D cups. I got my surgery about a year later, and when i woke up, i looked great!! THEN- two days later, my chest was swollen and filled with fluid, bigger than it was when I went in for the surgery. Little did I know but i had developed a hematoma and seroma on both sides.(that is blood and other fluids like puss ). My arrogant surgeon wouldnt see me, said that he didnt have time until end of week, and that my condition was normal. I could feel these weird lines running from my chest to my abdomen, on the inside. Apparently, the fluid was leaking into my abdomen. Two days later my stitches burst on a job site, and i dropped almost a pint and a half of blood on the floor. I was taken to the ER and my blood pressure was 79/25, which is dangerously low. So ended up ok, but i had to have slits cut into my chest on the sides with tubes hanging out for over a month. If my sutures hadnt burst outward, then the blood and puss would have leaked into my body more and could kill me. There you have it.
04-08-2009 05:40 PM
Damn bro...... I bet you pay close attention to pct now. I'm sorry all that happened to you. And now you have exertion headaches too? The roll of the dice was not favorable.
Originally Posted by dedlifter1
04-08-2009 05:45 PM
thanx man, and yeah, my sh!t is ALWAYS dialed. I have learned alot tho, my whole family on my fathers side are huge and all competed. I got back in the gym today, went slow, felt good, no headache, so i was pretty happy about that.
Originally Posted by Liquid13
04-08-2009 09:15 PM
Great post dedlifter.. sorry to hear about your inconveneince..
Also, that surgeon is a major punk- I'm pretty sure you have a basis for a lawsuit right there.. Either way, glad to hear you back in the gym and everything worked out for you.
04-08-2009 11:14 PM
anonymous11 did u try nolva or letro before the surjery or did u say screw it and just jump to it?
04-09-2009 04:50 AM
Thanx man. That horror story happened like 6-7 years ago or something like that. Whenever i read about some newb wanting to try this or that and they are real young and have no knowledge of the dangers i sit here at my computer and sigh. I had to learn the hard way, but it doesnt have to be that way.
Originally Posted by MPFit
04-13-2009 04:58 PM
That's quite a story, bro. People tend to think that elective plastic surgery is typicallysafe (and it usually is), however they still have significant risk factors involved like any other surgery. Post-op complications such as infection and hemorrhage are just a few of the potential complications.....not to mention the risks of going under general anesthesia alone.
Originally Posted by dedlifter1
I'm glad to hear that all ended well, buddy. Your story definitely sheds some light in regard to the gross reality of the situation. Thanks for sharing my man. Surgery is surgery; complications are always a possibility.
Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
04-14-2009 02:38 AM
Definitely feel for you and what you had to go through bro. But remember many dont develope gyno, or at least a severe case, and also your surgical issues arent very common.
Originally Posted by dedlifter1
But the way you feel about newbs is justified, many are so ignorant of AAS use and dont inform themselves before going down that route. Very stupid.
04-14-2009 05:05 AM
Yeah, my scenario is atypical for sure. I just hope someone reads it and decides to get informed.
Originally Posted by pumbertot
04-17-2009 04:50 PM
ive had 3 minor procedures all under local. i never had a gland, it was always just larger loose nipples that puffed out. it would have been easier if it was just a gland. they had to basically tighten and fix my nipple. much harder procedure and im still not 100% pleased.
04-18-2009 05:42 AM
Does anyone know a way how to reduce pubertal gyno? I've read this thread, and this scares me. I don't have any lumps but the skin around my nipples and lower chest is soft, despite me being around 7-8% bf. Would letro, plus nolva help reduce this? Maybe a Same? I think it could have to do with prolactin levels although I'll have to get this checked up, but I read that prolactin does increase in some males due to various factors etc and diet, sleep (which I get very little of in uni) and stress levels can affect it.
Again I'm not sure what the cause of it is (although I do notice that since increasing slightly in bf it has become more apparent) band I mean it isn't all that noticeable, just you can see the nipples protrude a little and through some tops, unless I tense...I just hate when I'm with my girl n I can't help but think she's thinkin "what the f***" because I have a hard body until she feels up around my chest.
I don't want surgery but will resort to it if it's the only way, so for now, any supplemental alternatives would be great. So far I've got epidrol, 11oxo, activate extreme and am waiting to buy some letro and nolva. I do sports as well so I know I shouldn't be taking these but this I view as more important. If need be I will take some hardening AAS coz I heard Win can aid in reducing estrogen-al symptoms, If it doesn't aid then fine I won't but if it does then I don't care about liver toxicity etc, I'll stock up on protectants. I have no history with PH's, AAS, AI's, SAMe, SERMs but if they are my route for gyno eradication then fire away with any supplements you can recommend.
07-17-2009 06:09 AM
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07-23-2009 01:30 AM
My relationship with Dr. Ashley Granotís office staff has been longstanding.* The staff is friendly, supportive and accommodating.* I had spoken with him about liposuction, and* he explained thoroughly the technique used and the potential risk.* The surgical procedure was uneventful. I was comfortable and remember nothing of the actual procedure. The recovery period was a "piece of cake."
Although I had been told not to expect to see results immediately, I noticed results within 10 days. My clothes fit ó most were loose. I loved the results. My only regret is that I didnít do it sooner.
07-25-2009 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by sarah11
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07-26-2009 04:13 AM
Originally Posted by sarah11
07-30-2009 01:12 AM
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08-05-2009 02:21 PM
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08-06-2009 01:33 AM
Today I had my gyno surgery. I finally stepped up to the plate and did it. This is my story about how it went.
I have had this gyno since I first hit puberty. I was always pretty skinny buy I had a pointy chest, this stopped me from going to the beach with my shirt off when I got a little older, I never went to the pools etc. It really bothered me. I thought at first I must have had fat around my chest because I was just unlucky and this is where my fat was stored. I started working out when I was around 22 and went to the gym 5 days a week. I toned up and got to be very skinny but the fat around my chest never seemed to get any lower. I searched on Google and came across many sites and that’s when I first thought that I might have had gyno. I didn’t do anything about it until I was 24 because I was scared of going under the knife. Well finally I decided that something had to be done.
I started searching the net for surgeons who could do the surgery and ended up deciding to use Dr. Ashley Granot from the Ashley Centre in Melbourne. I went to see him for a consultation and had all the blood tests. It turns out that all my blood work was perfectly normal for a guy my age. They didn’t have a reason why I had gyno; it was just one of those things. Anyway the surgery set me back $4500 all up including EVERYTHING.
On the day that I was going into surgery I wasn’t allowed to eat anything for 6 hours before operation. I went in and I was nervous as anything. They got me to strip down into a surgical gown and the nurse gave me an intramuscular injection into my glute, it was pain killer and relaxants. I thought it was going to hurt but it didn’t hurt that much at all. After that another nurse put a drip into my arm, I thought it was going to hurt again, but it didn’t, they put heaps of saline into the drip.
After about 15 minutes of waiting for the drugs to kick in the doctor came into the room and cut an incision into my armpit. He inserted a clear plastic tube into the incision and started to pump me full of muscle relaxants, pain killer and something to dilute the fat. He put about 800mls into my chest. After that we waited another 15 minutes for the pain killer and fat diluting solution to start working. The inserting of the clear plastic tube was the most painful part of the surgery. I think painful is a bit harsh of a word. I would say it was VERY uncomfortable. As he was pushing in the tube I could feel the fat ripping away from the muscle below it.
After that he got the liposuction canula and started sucking out the fat. This took a fair while and didn’t hurt for the most part. A few times he hit a hard part of fat which would hurt very slightly but it was bearable. When he finished sucking out all the fat there was still a bit of breast tissue which he could not get out through the canula because it was too hard. So he made an incision around my nipple and pulled it out with some tweezer looking things and he just cut it. This was uncomfortable as I could feel the tissues being ripped out of my chest. But it didn’t hurt. After this was done he sewed me up and I could sit up and put on my compression vest.
Throughout the entire procedure I was awake and could see what was going on. I was sedated but not fully knocked out. The doctor said he did not want to give me general anesthetic and knock me out fully because that was too risky for a minor procedure. He said something like 1 in 10,000 people die from an allergic reaction to general anesthetic or something like that. Plus I wanted to be awake because I didn’t want anything to stuff up and I had heard some horror stories about doctors cutting out chest muscles and stuff like that. I was talking throughout the whole procedure, probably a lot of jibberish cause of all the relaxants but yea.
All in all I am happy that I finally have my gyno gone and I have a flat chest. I only did the surgery this morning and I am already up and about. It doesn’t hurt much at all, it just feels like a really hard gym workout session and I can’t lift my arms over my head. Other than that I got some pain killers but I don’t even need them. If you are thinking about doing this, just DO IT. Don’t be scared of the surgery it’s not that bad.
If you have any questions ill be happy to answer them. Tomorrow I have to go back to the surgery for a post op check up.
My chest is FLAT!!!!!!!
Hope I have helped someone out there!
08-27-2009 07:43 PM
in my teens, i noticied i had puppy nipples. i was as skinny as can be. i eventually had surgery because i told my mom about it. not sure how much of the gland was removed. my areola is small and my nipple is tiny, but it sometimes can be seen through shirts, kinda like its hard. no issues at all. i took 1ad, 4ad and 19nor in 03, didn't so a pct and didn't have issues with shutdown, libido, or gyno. i'm on 11 oxo now.
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