I ordered a couple of bottles of dermacrine and a tin of Toco 8 on friday and they arrived today. Very fast and professional shipping.
I will start the dermacrine in the morning, I am going to compare it against my TRT compounded Test gel and post how it goes if anybody is interested.
I tried the Toco 8 straight up and chased it with water. It doesn't taste bad at all, but I think some of it stuck to my teeth so it might be better to mix it with a drink It had an initial flavor that was almost fruity with turned slightly bitter, but after it was down it had a "malty" aftertaste.