dermacrine and toco 8
- 05-12-2008, 11:54 PM
dermacrine and toco 8
I ordered a couple of bottles of dermacrine and a tin of Toco 8 on friday and they arrived today. Very fast and professional shipping.
I will start the dermacrine in the morning, I am going to compare it against my TRT compounded Test gel and post how it goes if anybody is interested.
I tried the Toco 8 straight up and chased it with water. It doesn't taste bad at all, but I think some of it stuck to my teeth so it might be better to mix it with a drink It had an initial flavor that was almost fruity with turned slightly bitter, but after it was down it had a "malty" aftertaste.
- 05-16-2008, 09:13 AM
05-16-2008, 04:56 PM
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05-16-2008, 05:49 PM
Make sure to keep the scoop of toco on your tongue and not let it get swished around in your mouth. It actually tastes pretty good, but it also gets stuck to your mouth.lol
05-16-2008, 06:06 PM
05-19-2008, 05:56 PM
05-20-2008, 10:08 PM
So it's been an entire week and I have been using 4 pumps of Dermacrine in the morning along with 2 scoops of Toco8 before bed. I will be getting some blood tests the week after next so we can see what the numbers look like. My "normal" test range usually comes back in the 200-250 range, give or take the time of day it was taken and my estrogen is usually in the 25 to 30 range.
My initial impression is that my mood has been completely better and I have been sleeping like a baby. I thought it was just a placebo effect the first few days, but so far so good. I suffer from anxiety and can be a little "twitchy" (think Tweak on South Park). I know the preg has some impact on neurological function, so I hope that the feeling of well being continues. I am wondering if the DHEA and pregnenalone combination may be helping to combat an underlying/undiagnosed adrenal fatigue condition? When I was on TRT last year my doctor also had me on 2 grains of Armour a day, it didn't do much but make me even more jittery for and hour or 2 after I took it. I didn't notice any weightloss or other benefits from the thyroid hormone, and I know that proper adrenal/cortisol function is required for T3 to do its job. Any thoughts?
Edit: Oh yeah, my hair hasn't started growing back yet from the Toco8
05-20-2008, 10:10 PM
05-21-2008, 12:25 PM
05-21-2008, 12:57 PM
There was a tread over in the anti-aging section about the benefits of adding DHEA and preg to existing TRT patients to normalize all of the hormone pathways that are effected when external test is added to the system, there might be something to that. Seriously, i haven't felt this well even when on TRT.
05-22-2008, 01:00 PM
The DHEA and Pregnenolone are serious neurosteroids, so the increased energy and vigor that you feel is probably due to a more complete replenishment during the night (from the higher neurosteroid concentration)
05-26-2008, 12:40 PM
05-29-2008, 10:31 AM
So its been 2 weeks so far since I started with the dermacrine, my blood test kits are on the way. The major change that I have noticed in the last few days is that I am STARVING, especially in the evening.
05-29-2008, 11:31 AM
06-26-2008, 02:38 PM
09-27-2008, 03:39 PM
Anecdotally, I felt much better on the dermacrine - just like being on TRT - without the itchy nipples
09-28-2008, 03:34 PM
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