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Have you ever been upset by high testosterone lab results?

  1.  04-21-2008  12:55 PM
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    Have you ever been upset by high testosterone lab results?


    Now I have...

    Back in december, I did a cycle of 1-t + at the tail end of it superdrol. I got my blood tested precycle, and my results came back about what I expected, crappy. I had been previously told that my test levels were at bottom of scale but never went on trt. I used Dermacrine Sustain Alpha and Toco-8 for my PCT, then took a final blood test about a month after that was over. Dangit, i'm not a TRT candidate anymore....

    Hats off to Primordial, even tho I have no excuse to go on TRT now
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    Awesome results. Always nice to see bloodwork and numbers backing up a product.

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    Congrats Easy, nice recovery there

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    Damn almost a 75% increase in test it looks like! Holy crap! lol... I have used Dermacrine sustain reg and it was great, cant wait to try the alpha.
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    Is that all you were using in regards to test boosting? No SERM, AI, etc?

    How many pumps of alpha, and where did you apply to?

    Thanks-

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    Wow, Easy!!! That's awesome.. Sad story no more TRT though, lol.

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    Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Is that all you were using in regards to test boosting? No SERM, AI, etc?

    How many pumps of alpha, and where did you apply to?

    Thanks-
    yeah, that was it, it was part of a purposeful experiment. Since it was so low to begin with, I figured that worst that happens is I come back poorly and go on TRT anyhow. Thats why I did the blood test before the cycle, and after PCT + rest time.

    I did 5 pumps a day of the sustain, 1 to the sack and inner thighs, and the rest spread from abs to upper bis.

    Granted your mileage my vary you have to also keep in mind that in the timespan of these tests I went from mid 20s bodyfat to mid teens. So I think aromatase levels dropping because of that have a bit to do with it. I definitely noticed about 2 weeks into PCT that I was hanging extra low not really bigger than normal, but hanging lower.
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    Easy, that's ridiculous. I love how at the bottom @ current hormone therapies it goes from 'none' in December to 'none indicated' in March. AHHAHAHAH!!
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    well, that is quite a remarkable change for sure, so obviously someone there was paying attention
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    Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    well, that is quite a remarkable change for sure, so obviously someone there was paying attention
    Whatever man, just tell em you've been practicing your Kegel's.
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    Good to hear. I have actually been running Sustain Alpha for a little over 2 weeks now, at 5 pumps a day.. Not noticing a whole lot yet, so hopefully it starts to kick in.

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    Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Now I have...

    Back in december, I did a cycle of 1-t + at the tail end of it superdrol. I got my blood tested precycle, and my results came back about what I expected, crappy. I had been previously told that my test levels were at bottom of scale but never went on trt. I used Dermacrine Sustain Alpha and Toco-8 for my PCT, then took a final blood test about a month after that was over. Dangit, i'm not a TRT candidate anymore....

    Hats off to Primordial, even tho I have no excuse to go on TRT now
    Thats great EJ, thanks for posting.

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    I thought your LH would be higher

    How much did the the tests cost you ?
    Was it easy to do the blood spot ?
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    yeah, the lh + fsh dropping a little is interesting, but who knows how all that goes together... still in normal range, so good enough for me

    the tests were around $140-150 a pop, I don't remember exactly. it was pretty easy to do, took about 20 minutes first thing in the morning to do it.
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    Originally Posted by broken7 View Post
    I thought your LH would be higher

    How much did the the tests cost you ?
    Was it easy to do the blood spot ?
    High LH/FSH isn’t necessarily a good thing. Having low LH/FSH means that the Toco-8 helped improve his testicular sensitivity so he can maintain a higher testosterone level with lower LH/FSH levels. This is a good thing

    Plus, LH/FSH is released in rhythmic pulses throughout the day, with the highest amount released first thing in the morning. He may have tested different times, thus showing different levels.

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    whats most amazing is this came a month after the Primordial PCT.

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    Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Good to hear. I have actually been running Sustain Alpha for a little over 2 weeks now, at 5 pumps a day.. Not noticing a whole lot yet, so hopefully it starts to kick in.
    Did this ever kick in for you?

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    Let me get this straight. You used Derma, Sustain Alpha, and the toco? Not just the Sustain and toco? How would this work for someone attempting a restart? I thought the Derma wasn't recommended for part of the PCT unless I read wrong.

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    no, just the sustain alpha. I thought its full name was "dermacrine sustain alpha", but I guess i'm wrong. maybe it was "dermacrine sustain" before it became the alpha.
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    Ah, this is what I was looking for!

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