[rick055]

Just heard there might be a new product for hairloss that grew hair in 42% of men.

Toco-8.

Anybody?!?

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by rick055

Just heard there might be a new product for hairloss that grew hair in 42% of men.

Toco-8.

Anybody?!?

Yeah, people will be jumping on this bandwagon once the word gets out (including our competitors)

The study and the patent says it all … this stuff caused a significant increase in hair thickness without any side effects. We are pretty proud of this little guy.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF...BAJ&dq=7211274

-Pp

[TripDog]

sooooooooooooooo....what is it?

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by TripDog

sooooooooooooooo....what is it?

Its a very special snake oil...

http://www.primordialperformance.com/toco.cfm

-Pp

[rick055]

Originally Posted by Primordial Perf

Yeah, people will be jumping on this bandwagon once the word gets out (including our competitors)

The study and the patent says it all … this stuff caused a significant increase in hair thickness without any side effects. We are pretty proud of this little guy.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF...BAJ&dq=7211274

-Pp

For those of us with ADD, did the patent claim that it increased hair thickness by 42%, hair count by 42% or just "worked" in 42% of men?

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by rick055

For those of us with ADD, did the patent claim that it increased hair thickness by 42%, hair count by 42% or just "worked" in 42% of men?

It was an increase in hair count, rather than hair weight

"At the end of the supplementation period, all volunteers in the tocotrienol formulation group had positive results, recording an increase in the number of hairs in the evaluation area. Seven volunteers (64%) showed regrowth of between 10-35% while 3 volunteers (27%) had 50% or greater regrowth. One volunteer had regrowth of more than 100%. The mean percentage of increase in the number of hairs is 42.4.+-.40.9% (mean.+-.SD)."

-Pp

[Matt Skiba]

This stuff definitely sounds exciting, but one must be cautious as there are loads of hair loss products out there but a very small number actually works.

I am really looking forward to having my shipment arrive, but as much as I'd love to be proven wrong on this, I don't really think it's going to really be any more effective than nizoral shampoo, but even that's saying a lot fora supplement product and it would still be considered a breakthrough.

I personally already use minoxidil and topical spironolactone (also pondering whether I should conjure up an RU58841 topical). I had to quit propecia cause of nasty side effects. I also use Dr. Lee's shampoo which is the same thing as nizoral but a bit better supposedly.

IF, after 6 months of using this stuff I see that my hair is thickening up significantly I will be forever indebted with gratitude. Not only that but if the stuff actually works I'm sure word of it will spread like wildfire and millions of balding men(and teenagers) will buy the product.

PP, did you by chance see the test subjects yourself personally or have any experience with the supplement yourself? Even if you know someone (a friend of an employee or something) that's been using the stuff and have any honest information you can share that would be great.

[rick055]

Matt,

I am also using a combination of topicals.

Dr. John's Hairloss Shampoo (2% Nizoral + spironolactone) and 5% Rogaine foam in the am (for ease).

At night I use Dr. Lee's Xandrox 5% with retin-a and the 5% spiro.

About three months after I started TRT on the gels, I started thinning in the crown. This also conincided with starting minoxidil + retin-a.

My DHT shot up on gels, I have since switched to injects and haven't gotten a DHT reading yet.

I am reluctant to take propecia, but would HATE to lose any more hair. I have gone to such great lengths to save it.

At least hair transplants are pretty solid now.

I am definitely going to give this stuff a try, though. $15 a month...

Is there still a promo code for anabolicminds, Eric?

[Satch]

Originally Posted by rick055

Matt,
I am definitely going to give this stuff a try, though. $15 a month...

Small correction: from the website, "For clinically effective hair growth benefits, take two servings daily". So it would be $30 a month.

[rick055]

Originally Posted by Satch

Small correction: from the website, "For clinically effective hair growth benefits, take two servings daily". So it would be $30 a month.

Good catch.

But hey, if it increases my hair count by 42%, I'll gladly pay it.

[faustus]

When is this gonna be available in NP?

And can I take this along with Somnidren-GH?

Faustus

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by Matt Skiba

This stuff definitely sounds exciting, but one must be cautious as there are loads of hair loss products out there but a very small number actually works.

I am really looking forward to having my shipment arrive, but as much as I'd love to be proven wrong on this, I don't really think it's going to really be any more effective than nizoral shampoo, but even that's saying a lot fora supplement product and it would still be considered a breakthrough.

I personally already use minoxidil and topical spironolactone (also pondering whether I should conjure up an RU58841 topical). I had to quit propecia cause of nasty side effects. I also use Dr. Lee's shampoo which is the same thing as nizoral but a bit better supposedly.

IF, after 6 months of using this stuff I see that my hair is thickening up significantly I will be forever indebted with gratitude. Not only that but if the stuff actually works I'm sure word of it will spread like wildfire and millions of balding men(and teenagers) will buy the product.

PP, did you by chance see the test subjects yourself personally or have any experience with the supplement yourself? Even if you know someone (a friend of an employee or something) that's been using the stuff and have any honest information you can share that would be great.

Matt,

I personally don’t have any anecdotes to give you. We were so impressed with the manufactures professionalism, quality, history and clinical studies that we decided to get this product strait to the market.

Trust me, I’ve already given this stuff to every friend and relative I know of whom has an alopecia condition. I personally use the stuff for the other benefits, but none of the benefits are something that you can notice in the first week and say “hey this stuff works”… it a long term commitment to a natural product that has a slow accumulation of positive effects.

Rick,

The promo code is MVC10 to save $10.

Faustus,

We will likely be the only supplier of this product. What is in the Somnidren?

-Pp

[rick055]

Ordered. Thanks Eric.

[faustus]

Somnidren ingredients:

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/m...nidren-gh.html

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by faustus

Somnidren ingredients:

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/m...nidren-gh.html

I see no problem with taking the two together.

-Pp

[faustus]

PP,

So I can stack both toco-8 with somnidren and take before bedtime, and let my hair re-grow during the nite?

If it works, it's a star product!

Faustus