sustain or deramcrine ?

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    From my urine results what would one recommend?

    Cortisol, free ----very high 230(20-90)
    Pregnanietrol--0.95(1.40-6.2))
    Testosterone high = 0.65(<=0.53)
    11-Hydroxy-etiocholanolone (whatewer it is) very high=5.18(0.5-3.10)
    Estradiol nill very low, not detected (1.5-6)
    estrial 19.55 (3-28.5)
    2/16 hydroxy estrone .71 (.60-7.53 ) SUCKS ASS !!
    16 hydroxestrone 1.85 (.26-2.33)
    2 hydroxestrone 1.31 (.16-7.69) very low
    2-Methoxyestrone <detectable (0.15-4.53)
    4-hydroxyestrone high=2.09(0.27-0.99)
    4-methoxyestrone low, not detected (0.26-2.77)
    2-Methoxyestrone/2-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.6-7.53)
    4-Methoxyestrone/4-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.81-1.62)
    Triodothyronine, T3 very high =10395(1310-5312)
    DHEA <DL
    Human growth hormone 24 (15-59)

    Currently on TRT
    last blood test results
    tt 924
    shbg 42
    e2 28

    50 mgs test every 3 days
    125 hcgs days inbetween shots
    400 mgs DIM bioresponse
    25 mgs subliguial spray dhea - but look at my urine on labs on DHEA NOT DECTABLE

    Goals control bad estrogen and lower shbg, increase free T
    I was thinking dermacrine like 3 pumps a day as constant maintence dosage. I will have blood work done in 4 weeks for hormone levels and really want to give one of these products a chance. I look into delgados products but way too expensive..Why i use one of yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardasnails1973 View Post
    From my urine results what would one recommend?

    Cortisol, free ----very high 230(20-90)
    Pregnanietrol--0.95(1.40-6.2))
    Testosterone high = 0.65(<=0.53)
    11-Hydroxy-etiocholanolone (whatewer it is) very high=5.18(0.5-3.10)
    Estradiol nill very low, not detected (1.5-6)
    estrial 19.55 (3-28.5)
    2/16 hydroxy estrone .71 (.60-7.53 ) SUCKS ASS !!
    16 hydroxestrone 1.85 (.26-2.33)
    2 hydroxestrone 1.31 (.16-7.69) very low
    2-Methoxyestrone <detectable (0.15-4.53)
    4-hydroxyestrone high=2.09(0.27-0.99)
    4-methoxyestrone low, not detected (0.26-2.77)
    2-Methoxyestrone/2-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.6-7.53)
    4-Methoxyestrone/4-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.81-1.62)
    Triodothyronine, T3 very high =10395(1310-5312)
    DHEA <DL
    Human growth hormone 24 (15-59)

    Currently on TRT
    last blood test results
    tt 924
    shbg 42
    e2 28

    50 mgs test every 3 days
    125 hcgs days inbetween shots
    400 mgs DIM bioresponse
    25 mgs subliguial spray dhea - but look at my urine on labs on DHEA NOT DECTABLE

    Goals control bad estrogen and lower shbg, increase free T
    I was thinking dermacrine like 3 pumps a day as constant maintence dosage. I will have blood work done in 4 weeks for hormone levels and really want to give one of these products a chance. I look into delgados products but way too expensive..Why i use one of yours
    Delgado’s products? Who is that?

    It sounds like the goal here is to get the desirable hormones to a certain level/ratio rather than return natural T production, so yes, I think 2-3 pumps ED of the Dermacrine would be a great solution for getting your DHEA up. Plus the 7,8 benzoflavone and chrysin should help improve your 2/16 ratio. Although we’ve never actually ran any blood work on this, the in-vitro and in vivo evidence Ive seen shows that the 7,8 benzoflavone is especially good for increasing 2-hydroxylation of estrogens.

    -Eric

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