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Old 10-17-2007, 07:27 PM   #1
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sustain or deramcrine ?

From my urine results what would one recommend?

Cortisol, free ----very high 230(20-90)
Pregnanietrol--0.95(1.40-6.2))
Testosterone high = 0.65(<=0.53)
11-Hydroxy-etiocholanolone (whatewer it is) very high=5.18(0.5-3.10)
Estradiol nill very low, not detected (1.5-6)
estrial 19.55 (3-28.5)
2/16 hydroxy estrone .71 (.60-7.53 ) SUCKS ASS !!
16 hydroxestrone 1.85 (.26-2.33)
2 hydroxestrone 1.31 (.16-7.69) very low
2-Methoxyestrone <detectable (0.15-4.53)
4-hydroxyestrone high=2.09(0.27-0.99)
4-methoxyestrone low, not detected (0.26-2.77)
2-Methoxyestrone/2-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.6-7.53)
4-Methoxyestrone/4-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.81-1.62)
Triodothyronine, T3 very high =10395(1310-5312)
DHEA <DL
Human growth hormone 24 (15-59)

Currently on TRT
last blood test results
tt 924
shbg 42
e2 28

50 mgs test every 3 days
125 hcgs days inbetween shots
400 mgs DIM bioresponse
25 mgs subliguial spray dhea - but look at my urine on labs on DHEA NOT DECTABLE

Goals control bad estrogen and lower shbg, increase free T
I was thinking dermacrine like 3 pumps a day as constant maintence dosage. I will have blood work done in 4 weeks for hormone levels and really want to give one of these products a chance. I look into delgados products but way too expensive..Why i use one of yours
 
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:43 AM   #2
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From my urine results what would one recommend?

Cortisol, free ----very high 230(20-90)
Pregnanietrol--0.95(1.40-6.2))
Testosterone high = 0.65(<=0.53)
11-Hydroxy-etiocholanolone (whatewer it is) very high=5.18(0.5-3.10)
Estradiol nill very low, not detected (1.5-6)
estrial 19.55 (3-28.5)
2/16 hydroxy estrone .71 (.60-7.53 ) SUCKS ASS !!
16 hydroxestrone 1.85 (.26-2.33)
2 hydroxestrone 1.31 (.16-7.69) very low
2-Methoxyestrone <detectable (0.15-4.53)
4-hydroxyestrone high=2.09(0.27-0.99)
4-methoxyestrone low, not detected (0.26-2.77)
2-Methoxyestrone/2-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.6-7.53)
4-Methoxyestrone/4-hydroxyestrone ratio not detected (0.81-1.62)
Triodothyronine, T3 very high =10395(1310-5312)
DHEA <DL
Human growth hormone 24 (15-59)

Currently on TRT
last blood test results
tt 924
shbg 42
e2 28

50 mgs test every 3 days
125 hcgs days inbetween shots
400 mgs DIM bioresponse
25 mgs subliguial spray dhea - but look at my urine on labs on DHEA NOT DECTABLE

Goals control bad estrogen and lower shbg, increase free T
I was thinking dermacrine like 3 pumps a day as constant maintence dosage. I will have blood work done in 4 weeks for hormone levels and really want to give one of these products a chance. I look into delgados products but way too expensive..Why i use one of yours
Delgado’s products? Who is that?

It sounds like the goal here is to get the desirable hormones to a certain level/ratio rather than return natural T production, so yes, I think 2-3 pumps ED of the Dermacrine would be a great solution for getting your DHEA up. Plus the 7,8 benzoflavone and chrysin should help improve your 2/16 ratio. Although we’ve never actually ran any blood work on this, the in-vitro and in vivo evidence Ive seen shows that the 7,8 benzoflavone is especially good for increasing 2-hydroxylation of estrogens.

-Eric
 




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