Talk Me into the Andro Series!

[bcazo]

Ok, I've been lurking The Andro Series for a while now.. My question is why? I have done other PH Cyles and loved my results at a fraction of the cost. I have a full PCT and SERM in hand as well as 2 Bottles of Epi.. So someone talk me into it.. What stack would you recommend that would be similar to 6 week Epi run? My thinking was 4 weeks A/M followed by 4 Weeks A/H ? Are there discount codes available?

 

[bcazo]

bump.. Anyone?

 

[BBB]

I have been following the Andro series for some time as well. I have not taken the plunge for the same reasons you mention. It is expensive and the results have been mixed. And now with the addition of AndroEnhance it has gotten even more expensive. The big question that I have at this point is that if the Andro series was so effective before, why do I need AndroEnhance? Moreover, you can buy these same derivitives from other companies for substantially less money.

 

[bcazo]

I have been following the Andro series for some time as well. I have not taken the plunge for the same reasons you mention. It is expensive and the results have been mixed. And now with the addition of AndroEnhance it has gotten even more expensive. The big question that I have at this point is that if the Andro series was so effective before, why do I need AndroEnhance? Moreover, you can buy these same derivitives from other companies for substantially less money.

I'm honestly not trying to neg the company ... Just trying to justify the cost but if the results are mixed it would suck to blow 200 plus on it.. I do like the idea of the non methyl.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

lots of pluses, as mentioned:
non-methylated, most advanced delivery system on the market, tried & true company/sourcing, etc etc..

with anything you'll have some 'mixed results' -- even injectable AAS.
much depends on how the person is running it, what they bring to the training segment, diet, overall experience factors, etc etc..

i don't think anyone needs to talk anybody into trying Pp products.
they are what they are.

logs abound to refer to, including my own..
as a consumer, make your own choice.

oh, and btw - androEnhance was not designed to "make the other products better" (altho it can certainly be used for that purpose)..
rather, like every product in the Pp lineup, it was built with its own specific function/purpose in mind, applicable to MANY uses, either with or w/o Pp product in the mix.

 

[bcazo]

lots of pluses, as mentioned:
non-methylated, most advanced delivery system on the market, tried & true company/sourcing, etc etc..

with anything you'll have some 'mixed results' -- even injectible AAS.
much depends on how the person is running it, what they bring to the training segment, diet, overall experience factors, etc etc..

i don't think anyone needs to talk anybody into trying Pp products.
they are what they are.

logs abound to refer to, including my own..
as a consumer, make your own choice.

oh, and btw - androEnhance was not designed to "make the other products better" (altho it can certainly be used for that purpose)..
rather, like every product in the Pp lineup, it was built with its own specific function/purpose in mind, applicable to MANY uses, either with or w/o Pp product in the mix.

I looked at your log and dude your a house!!! I also see the you are running other PH cycles that are methyl... So my question to you is how do they compare? I can respect the advice from someone as dedicated as yourself.. I'm working to achive your status..

 

[Spaniard]

Ok, I've been lurking The Andro Series for a while now.. My question is why? I have done other PH Cyles and loved my results at a fraction of the cost. I have a full PCT and SERM in hand as well as 2 Bottles of Epi.. So someone talk me into it.. What stack would you recommend that would be similar to 6 week Epi run? My thinking was 4 weeks A/M followed by 4 Weeks A/H ? Are there discount codes available?

IMO and from what I've witnessed from dudes at my station - 4 Weeks of any of them is a big waste of money... I wouldn't cycle any of them for just 4 bro...

I would just go with a cycle based on what you want. Make a stack i.e. mass and hard for 8 or either standalone for 8. It takes about 4 Weeks to get the effect from them so if you did Mass for 4 let's say you'd be stopping right when it should really be at the most optimum time.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I'm working to achive your status..

with the use of 2 dots for your ellipses, you are well on your way.
and thanks for the kind words.

to answer your question tho - understand that i did a 16-week run total, coming back from injured and total beat-down out-of-shape status. the first 8 weeks was AMv3 isolated; the last 8 weeks were to dial in a cut for a bb comp, and i used AL/AH during that time along w/ Mechabol..so, mecha was the only methyl i ran.
was an intersting experience, and i think i reacted poorly to mecha, went thru a 4-week period where i felt like death. after i came out of it, last 3 weeks or so of the stack i was fine.
so - if you want my overall comparison, no big sides with AndroSeries (and hella effectiveness); versus some srs lethargy while taking a methyl.

now, i'm running a methylated product here in ~ a month or so with dermacrine as my base, will be interested to get a better comparison.

but what i can tell you is, i enjoyed all the Pp products i ran immensely, very effective stuff..and the TRS was just super cool, kept me happy and humming along.

obviously, i am a fan.

 

[bcazo]

with the use of 2 dots for your ellipses, you are well on your way.
and thanks for the kind words.

to answer your question tho - understand that i did a 16-week run total, coming back from injured and total beat-down out-of-shape status. the first 8 weeks was AMv3 isolated; the last 8 weeks were to dial in a cut for a bb comp, and i used AL/AH during that time along w/ Mechabol..so, mecha was the only methyl i ran.
was an intersting experience, and i think i reacted poorly to mecha, went thru a 4-week period where i felt like death. after i came out of it, last 3 weeks or so of the stack i was fine.
so - if you want my overall comparison, no big sides with AndroSeries (and hella effectiveness); versus some srs lethargy while taking a methyl.

now, i'm running a methylated product here in ~ a month or so with dermacrine as my base, will be interested to get a better comparison.

but what i can tell you is, i enjoyed all the Pp products i ran immensely, very effective stuff..and the TRS was just super cool, kept me happy and humming along.

obviously, i am a fan.

Thanks for taking the time to explain. In your expirence what would u run for a lean bulk? Diet is in check at around 2500 Cal per day. Did you achive lean gains with AMV3 not a fan of water weight?

 

[BBB]

I'm not knocking PP, I really like the company. They are inovative (not just another also-ran) and support what they sell. All-in-all a great company. Taco-8 is the best vitamin E on the market and a staple for me as is Dermicrine although PP doesn't make it anymore.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Thanks for taking the time to explain. In your expirence what would u run for a lean bulk? Diet is in check at around 2500 Cal per day. Did you achive lean gains with AMV3 not a fan of water weight?

AM for the lean bulk, hands down.
but - you're gonna have to get them cals up bro!
srs, AM will chew thru cals. i could easily see you mauling 4k daily (if not more), and no waterweight at all if keeping the cals clean.
hell, even on a dirty bulk, i'd be hard pressed to see you getting watery on this stuff..it's that good.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I'm not knocking PP, I really like the company. They are inovative (not just another also-ran) and support what they sell. All-in-all a great company. Taco-8 is the best vitamin E on the market and a staple for me as is Dermicrine although PP doesn't make it anymore.

they still make dermacrine from what i understand, it's just sold thru BPS now.

 

[BBB]

Over theyears I have become extremely disenchanted with the whole supplement industry.Currently there are only three companies (sometimes four) that I buy productsfrom and PP is one of them.

 

[southsideguy]

I've used allot of gear in my day; although I've had good results with some, the Androseries products are the only ones that have never gave me any significant negative side effects. Slight lethargy from AM and AL V2 but not a big deal.

I can say this in all honesty, Androhard and Androdrive has done wonders for my physique and mental sharpness (respectively). 12 weeks of heaven.

 

[HereToStudy]

they still make dermacrine from what i understand, it's just sold thru BPS now.

True! We make it, they sell it under their label.

Over theyears I have become extremely disenchanted with the whole supplement industry.Currently there are only three companies (sometimes four) that I buy productsfrom and PP is one of them.

Thank you.

I've used allot of gear in my day; although I've had good results with some, the Androseries products are the only ones that have never gave me any significant negative side effects. Slight lethargy from AM and AL V2 but not a big deal.

I can say this in all honesty, Androhard and Androdrive has done wonders for my physique and mental sharpness (respectively). 12 weeks of heaven.

Thanks for feedback!

 

[BBB]

they still make dermacrine from what i understand, it's just sold thru BPS now.

The stuff I have seems a little different from the old dermacrine. It's a little more runny.

 

[HereToStudy]

The stuff I have seems a little different from the old dermacrine. It's a little more runny.

It is a completely new carrier. Primordial has switched all of their topicals to a new more effective carrier. Dermacrine received this upgrade as well.

 

[R1balla]

Thanks for taking the time to explain. In your expirence what would u run for a lean bulk? Diet is in check at around 2500 Cal per day. Did you achive lean gains with AMV3 not a fan of water weight?

lean bulk? 8 weeks andromass no doubt.

 

[AaronJP1]

I used Andromass v2, gained some great size & held it.

Bloated was the only problem. I've debated on trying Mass again or Bulk... Not sure yet.

 

[HereToStudy]

I used Andromass v2, gained some great size & held it.

Bloated was the only problem. I've debated on trying Mass again or Bulk... Not sure yet.

Go v3

 

[R1balla]

i really wanna try bulk now. not many people have. idk why.

 

[AaronJP1]

i really wanna try bulk now. not many people have. idk why.

Should've nabbed Bulk when I saw it for like $100 cheaper than 219.
A lot of people don't seen to be providing much feedback for Bulk or Lean.

I really want some feedback on lean.

 

[HereToStudy]

We try and push guys to log, but no one carries through. I am hoping to see some more organic ones as well.

 

[bcazo]

We try and push guys to log, but no one carries through. I am hoping to see some more organic ones as well.

I'll run a sponsored 8 week log of bulk or lean? If I don't follow through I'll pay for it.. Win Win right?? Ask Aaronjp1 I just logged condense for him.

 

[AaronJP1]

I'll run a sponsored 8 week log of bulk or lean? If I don't follow through I'll pay for it.. Win Win right?? Ask Aaronjp1 I just logged condense for him.

Even getting that in writing won't work.

 

[jimbuick]

What is the likelihood of someone getting back pumps like they do with other PH's.

 

[HereToStudy]

I'll run a sponsored 8 week log of bulk or lean? If I don't follow through I'll pay for it.. Win Win right?? Ask Aaronjp1 I just logged condense for him.

I meant organic logs, we do very few spponsored logs, and they are usually exceptions.

What is the likelihood of someone getting back pumps like they do with other PH's.

No reports that I know of off hand.

 

[jimbuick]

I meant organic logs, we do very few spponsored logs, and they are usually exceptions.


No reports that I know of off hand.

That makes it interesting to me by itself because I know of more than one guy who had crippling back pumps during runs while on PH's.

 

[HereToStudy]

That makes it interesting to me by itself because I know of more than one guy who had crippling back pumps during runs while on PH's.

This is more common with strong methylated hormones.

 

[R1balla]

i had pumps throughout almost the entire cycle on AM

 

[jimbuick]

i had pumps throughout almost the entire cycle on AM

Lower back pumps or just enhanced pumps from your workout?

 

[HereToStudy]

Lower back pumps or just enhanced pumps from your workout?

Yeah, they are referring to painful lower back pumps, not I am ripping all my nice shirts pumps.

 

[Drizzie88]

I'll run a sponsored 8 week log of bulk or lean? If I don't follow through I'll pay for it.. Win Win right?? Ask Aaronjp1 I just logged condense for him.

Beat me to the punch lol.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I am ripping all my nice shirts pumps.

i had one of those kind of pumps today. :wiggle:

 

[HereToStudy]

i had one of those kind of pumps today. :wiggle:

Love that feeling.