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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    lol DW, wth..never seen that one.

    i don't think Chris is a fan of our humor.

    on srs side tho - a 12-pck of coke/day or any other sugar soda - crazy.
    i cannot imagine.

    new york recently passed a law that no fast food joint/gas station etc. can sell any soft drinks larger than 20oz.
    you can refill it as much as you want, but the container size can contain no more than 20oz at a time.
    (oh except 7-elevens - they are exempt)

    those east-coaster politicians man..first no trans-fats in restaurants..now this..always on the cutting edge.
    With laws that make so much fuggin sense.. I mean why bother ... maybe the guys pushing the law have some invested interest in 711's....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    With laws that make so much fuggin sense.. I mean why bother ... maybe the guys pushing the law have some invested interest in 711's....
    that's not really my issue.
    sure - makes sense, in a common-sense dietary approach way..
    if i made up these rules for my household and guided my kids with these guidelines, fine.
    that is my private household business.
    government role is not to tell us what we can and cannot ingest, or regulate my caloric choices, sorry.
    it would seem they have much bigger issues they could apply their valuable attention to.

    the 7-eleven thing, yeah i have no clue - would seem their big gulp's would be the PRIME offender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    that's not really my issue.
    sure - makes sense, in a common-sense dietary approach way..
    if i made up these rules for my household and guided my kids with these guidelines, fine.
    that is my private household business.
    government role is not to tell us what we can and cannot ingest, or regulate my caloric choices, sorry.
    it would seem they have much bigger issues they could apply their valuable attention to.

    the 7-eleven thing, yeah i have no clue - would seem their big gulp's would be the PRIME offender.
    Yah that's what I was thinkng... and yes they don't have any business trying to run your life but I am not sure this constitutes a serious attempt to do so, it's just fuggin odd...
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    holy fu..........

    here - i will blink for you.


    moving leg day to tomorrow, back is still a lil tight from saturday.
    weight @199.9 upon rising.
    my metabolism is goofy right now, gonna need to increase cals slightly again.
    pic of arm after no upper-body work in what seems like forever (5-6 days i think lol)
    Ha nice one!
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    Wholy fug that's a lot of nose Candy Chris...
    Correction it was... Why do you think they called me Snuffy as in Snuffalu***us. LOL SNORT!!!! Not really never was a fan of that. I am already too hyper, my thing was more something to slow me down and made me hungry...

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    Nose Dive!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    lol DW, wth..never seen that one.

    i don't think Chris is a fan of our humor.

    on srs side tho - a 12-pck of coke/day or any other sugar soda - crazy.
    i cannot imagine.

    new york recently passed a law that no fast food joint/gas station etc. can sell any soft drinks larger than 20oz.
    you can refill it as much as you want, but the container size can contain no more than 20oz at a time.
    (oh except 7-elevens - they are exempt)

    those east-coaster politicians man..first no trans-fats in restaurants..now this..always on the cutting edge.
    No not at all, I thought it was hilarious and almost courted it with my wording. I knew somebody would say something. I was just on my phone when I read it and wanted to respond with that video above.

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    that's not really my issue.
    sure - makes sense, in a common-sense dietary approach way..
    if i made up these rules for my household and guided my kids with these guidelines, fine.
    that is my private household business.
    government role is not to tell us what we can and cannot ingest, or regulate my caloric choices, sorry.
    it would seem they have much bigger issues they could apply their valuable attention to.

    the 7-eleven thing, yeah i have no clue - would seem their big gulp's would be the PRIME offender.
    Down with big Government! The current temperature of the Government is bordering on heading towards socialism. Don't the people understand they will lose their liberties when they want to completely rely on the Government to take care of them. We need a strong third party of people who are somewhere in between the right and left wing, the body where most of us truly live anyway. Sorry for the political derailment.
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    Reps to you Kleen very well put sir. Scary times my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Reps to you Kleen very well put sir. Scary times my friend
    scary times indeed.
    and not to continue on with politics and cloud this log, but the headlines today:
    obama says romney thinks Big Bird was behind the wall street crash, and ridicules him for trying to kill sesame street.

    holy wow man.
    great tactic there, mr. president.
    your incredible focus on pertinent issues has no equal.

    anyway - Kleen, glad you laffed along.
    lol on the vid..seen a few ppl like that in my time.




    training today: none, rest

    interesting meals i been having lately.
    last night for supper, i had:
    5oz lean beef
    3oz black forest ham
    3oz roast beef
    1/2 cup jasmine rice (Matt Porter inspired the jasmine rice..yum love the stuff)
    625cals

    <4500cals i put down yesterday -- and weight dint change one bit>


    for breakfast today, was:
    5oz lean beef
    1 cup frosted mini-wheats + 6oz almond milk
    then, the shake: 1 scoop isolate + 1/2 cup cottage cheese + 1/4 cup oats, in 10oz of water.
    nice lil 650cal meal there, delicious and nutritious and well-balanced.

    oh...and dem walking DB lunges yesterday -- they tore me up!
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    Just jumped on the Jasmine wagon myself...heavenly!!
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    90% of the rice I eat is Jasmine Rice.
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    I will have to see what the jasmine rice is all about now. I don't know that I have ever had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    90% of the rice I eat is Jasmine Rice.
    Not to sidestep the convo here but damn bolt what is your body fat in your avi? You look hard as nails and dry to boot.
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    Kleen,if you have ever eaten chinese food? Which I am sure you have...it's that. Sheer goey splendor. Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Not to sidestep the convo here but damn bolt what is your body fat in your avi? You look hard as nails and dry to boot.
    Don't wanna derail but that was several months ago at my absolute best at the end of my cut. Body fat measuring is always iffy for me and I like to go by the mirror. With that said it was 6-7% based on Skin Folds, so prob 7-9ish. Was real dry and lean but was definitely more I could have shaved off if I was to approach competition levels IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Sheer goey splendor.
    huh. well, i wouldn't have drawn that comparison myself, but yeah it's pretty apt.
    stuff is nice and moist, buttery-tasting w/o even adding butter.


    well guys - me thinx i'm gonna try some upper body work tomorrow, kick lower body back to FRI, and start setting up for month #2 in the program.
    no DB tho, will stick with BB to ease in.
    i'm ready..been kinda stir-crazy w/o the upper body action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    huh. well, i wouldn't have drawn that comparison myself, but yeah it's pretty apt.
    stuff is nice and moist, buttery-tasting w/o even adding butter.


    well guys - me thinx i'm gonna try some upper body work tomorrow, kick lower body back to FRI, and start setting up for month #2 in the program.
    no DB tho, will stick with BB to ease in.
    i'm ready..been kinda stir-crazy w/o the upper body action.
    Me thinks you might be displaying your OCD. Hold of the rest of the week you can do it. Exercise your discipline that you have with food for your decision to save your body. Just because it doesn't hurt with a lack of stressing it doesn't mean it isn't still going to be sensitive to re-inflaming Give it the week, and know you gave it proper rest. THink about it after a week you can come back and grow more with less weight and step up slowly, more points of adaptation via progressive overload equals more growth. Let it ride the week out. Heal it. Just like with a sore muscle you dont want to hit it the moment it stops hurting you want to hit it when it is recovered. Just my $.02 from one old man to another.
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    good points Chris, surely. i appreciate the contribution.
    (love the from one old man to another bit too lol)
    i don't really feel i'm making a reckless decision tho - if i went back to DB and tried slinging heavy weight again like nothing ever happened, i'm sure it could resurface with a quickness. i've been diligent in my treatment, and posing/squeezing to put pressure on the area & surrounding tendons/structural support feels notably different. if this was a chronic condition, i would certainly agree and err on the side of caution..but, i've never really had elbow issues, so i don't think there is reason to continue to avoid.
    just my thoughts..
    obviously, if i feel any kind of discomfort, i can pull back once again. and, i will avoid dips (weighted or otherwise) for a few days yet, to assess.
    but i feel i am ready for some basic work.

    once again - thanks for looking out. i do really appreciate it.
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    Some food porn for you bubba..
    chicken breasts cut in 1/2 and baked in a pineapple/habanero salsa.

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    Sounds like a solid thought process, I am sure you will be on the look out for signs of stress on it. No dips is a good idea and no more than 90 degrees on triceps extensions first week back in would be a good idea to to keep from over-stretching it under the stress of weight. I am sure you know all these things but doesn't hurt to be reminded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Some food porn for you bubba..
    chicken breasts cut in 1/2 and baked in a pineapple/habanero salsa.

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    Oh wow, is the salsa homemade? I am not normally a big fan of pineapple with my meats but dayum that looks and sounds good. I love mango habanero sauce and not a fan of mango by itself either so this may be right up my alley.
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    @ Kleen - i may not even do any tri extensions for a few more days..just keep to some simple incline BB/cable pulldown to front, pronated grip/standing military and maybe some standing BB curls first couple times, see how it goes.

    @ AZ - oh wow my friend.
    yummy.
    (glad i just ate)
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    Not home made...from costco and all natural/gluten free
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    @ Kleen - i may not even do any tri extensions for a few more days..just keep to some simple incline BB/cable pulldown to front, pronated grip/standing military and maybe some standing BB curls first couple times, see how it goes.

    @ AZ - oh wow my friend.
    yummy.
    (glad i just ate)
    Sounds good on that workout. Tomorrow is my high rep light day. I do 15-20 reps, start with 3 sets of isolation exercise with no elbow movement to pre-exhaust then 2 sets of a compound movement for each body part to finish it off. It gives my elbows a nice rest while obliterating the actual body part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
    Some food porn for you bubba..
    chicken breasts cut in 1/2 and baked in a pineapple/habanero salsa.

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    Don't AZ but I'm looking for new chicken recipes as I'm not a huge fan of chicken. Hoe long and what temp do u bake them at? I'm getting sick of mine grilled. Lol moving back to tilapia and angus beef for a week or two. Any insight on some juicy chicken I'm all ears

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    as it was written, so it came to pass.

    awoke in a foul mood this morning - stayed up late to watch the DET-OAK game, just to see my Tigers wrap the series up..led the whole game, up 3-1 in the 9th only to watch freakin closer (?) valverde blow it in less than 5min.
    so, had some fuel for the early morn workout, and a good one it was.

    very basic, did some incline BB bench alternated with cable pulldowns (pronated), 6 sets working pyramid up in weights/down in reps. started at 225x12 on the incline BB, just feeling things out, ended at 325x4 -- elbow felt solid thruout! no issues at all.
    moved to standing military presses, did 5 straight sets @135x8, again just working back into things, dint want to push.
    ended with some direct ab work (almost forgot what this was like been so long lol)..no arm movements this day.
    just a very nice day in the weight room, very pleased..nice to have teh chest a bit swole again.
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    Damn young man..325 on incline!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Damn young man..325 on incline!
    was really pretty ridiculous the ease with which i got it too..and, there was no poor form. i take these suckers down to where my neck meets the very top of my chest.
    DB might have been smashing up the elbows (i think it was weighted dips too contributing, prolly the weighted pull-ups as well)..
    but - dem DBs sure do make strength go up.
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    I agree totally. For total functional strength,DBs have it covered. My bitch is that I workout at home and the biggest mine go to are 95s. Makes for high rep sets.
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    price of DBs sure has gone up..i bought most of mine new, when they were 50 cents/lb or less (think my first pair of 'good ones' was @ 33 cents/lb).
    haven't added to my supply in yrs, too expensive.

    nothing wrong with higher reps bro - some self-protection from elbow issues there.

    plus - shorter rest periods and higher reps would be my preference, in a perfect world.

    all kinds of ways to work around limited weights (not trying to preach to the choir here..you obviously know what you're doing)
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    Oh no doubt...and drop sets will take care of business also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Oh no doubt...and drop sets will take care of business also.
    boom! exactly.
    biggest DBs i have are 125s - and they're collecting dust in the corner right now..

    on a random note - considering my next approach after i run this freak protocol out..was thinking of applying some DC principles.
    i'm still bent on gaining some strength before my next show-prep begins.
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    You older gents sure keep my ass motivated!!!! Killer workout snags. Keep inspiring!

    On another note
    I bet that series was a tough one to watch being a Tigers fan! Being an Oakland fan through and through I enjoyed it!
    Having played college ball as a catcher it was tough to watch them blow that series no matter who I was rooting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    You older gents sure keep my ass motivated!!!! Killer workout snags. Keep inspiring!

    On another note
    I bet that series was a tough one to watch being a Tigers fan! Being an Oakland fan through and through I enjoyed it!
    Having played college ball as a catcher it was tough to watch them blow that series no matter who I was rooting for.
    Keep killing it snags
    oakland has had an incredible yr for sure..once every decade it seems, billy beane puts some magic together.
    i'm more mad at the fact it blew my prediction - i called tigers in 4.
    still think they will pull it out tonight tho, Verlander will not let us down.
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    Yeah every time I start hitting the weighted dips I end up with an issue. I love them too. Trying to learn not to go down as far with them so I can keep them in the rotation. As of right now I am only dipping after doing some high rep Over head Dumbell triceps extension sets then doing body weight dips with slow negatives while they are blasted already. Not as fun as strapping on my chain and putting 3-4 wheels on there and going mad though.
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    one thing i have never utilized a whole bunch thruout my lifting career - dips. i mean i have done them (obviously) but never focused my training around them except for maybe a few times some 20yrs ago or so. my triceps are anomalies, i've never had to train them hard or focus on them to make them grow - they just grew from result of my compound movements. a geneticly good bodypart, if you will..
    so, i say again - still have the feeling these weighted dips were partially responsible for my elbow issues..perhaps even moreso than i am giving them credit for. yes slinging heavy DB up and down to get in incline benching position is stressfull on the area make no mistake..but man, i just feel strongly that if i was doing that alone, i wouldn't be feeling it like i was..

    anyway - today, lower body day scheme #3.
    no issues with the back, everything felt good this morning.
    the plan is to hit upper body in some fashion tomorrow, take SUN off, and begin MON with the second month in the program.

    weight still hovering ~200 -- even tho i have not dipped below 4k cals in a few days (went up to 4750 day before yesterday!)
    i'm quite at a loss to explain this..maybe i'm due for a dirty cal day..
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    I am so jealous of your caloric intake Snags. I probably have pretty close to as much lbm as you can can not even come close to your caloric intake without gaining excessive fat. We all have our own metabolic rates, but I am a bit jealous of yours. I know this over 4000 all the time is not common for you but I can bulk on a 2700 cals a day average if not doing much cardio and if I even approach a 3000 average I am going to get fluffy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I am so jealous of your caloric intake Snags. I probably have pretty close to as much lbm as you can can not even come close to your caloric intake without gaining excessive fat. We all have our own metabolic rates, but I am a bit jealous of yours. I know this over 4000 all the time is not common for you but I can bulk on a 2700 cals a day average if not doing much cardio and if I even approach a 3000 average I am going to get fluffy.
    not common at all, brother..and, a little disconcerting.
    i mean, yes theoretically it's cool to be able to eat and not see it accumulate as fat..but - it's expensive, it's time-consuming, and it sucks that if i get only like 3000 or 3200 or something in, i look like rails the next morning with predictable 1-2lb weight loss.

    ever since i did the AMv3 in combination with TT-33 and a fat-burner, my metabolism has just been wired..
    wondering if i adjusted thyroid action with that lil run????

    it's just weird, having a teenage metabolism at the ripe old age of 41.

    talking about time-consuming: if i am making jasmine rice, and the required ~60min prep time, picture it:
    i get done with one meal (~30min to eat), rest for 30min, and then -- gotta start cooking rice to prepare for my next meal ~60-75min later..it's like i'm constantly in the damn kitchen!
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    Yeah that is what I was thinking though that my metabolism is cheaper and more convenient but does not always allow for me to have the foods i want. Then again the intermittent fasting does that in most cases so I found a way to make it work. I posted up my new nutrition plan to actually really start cutting some weight along with pics of what extending my eating window did to me via the excess insulin from spreading the carbs out throughout the day more.
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    Snags metabolism is faster than a youngster like me!

    In for food pron if you have a dirty cal day.
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    No rice cooker big man? Best invest I ever made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Snags metabolism is faster than a youngster like me!

    In for food pron if you have a dirty cal day.
    i know right?? crazy
    in my other thread Irish Cannon suggested california frozen pizza for some dirty cals, macros looked pretty good.
    will check into it.

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    No rice cooker big man? Best invest I ever made.
    nope. had one - but the ex took that with her when we split.
    even when we were together tho, i rarely used it..no need to when i was using uncle ben's and even quicker (ahem) minute brown rice..
    rice has been a part of, but not a big part of, my carb sources - i much prefer potatoes and oats.
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    Those Cali pizzas are dirty good. The Mrs would buy them now and then and somehow a piece or two would disappear.
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