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    **** that is some intense vascularity.
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    Looking full and beastly Snags! Your back is in awesome condition for being back up at 200. I need to bring my happy azz back down to 200, sitting at 212 as of this morning. However give me about 8-12 weeks and I think I will be right where I want to be at least until I hit up a contest or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Looking full and beastly Snags! Your back is in awesome condition for being back up at 200. I need to bring my happy azz back down to 200, sitting at 212 as of this morning. However give me about 8-12 weeks and I think I will be right where I want to be at least until I hit up a contest or something.
    hey good to see ya drop by my friend.
    i have no doubt you'll be where you need to be, when you want to be there.

    weight was 201.5 upon rising this morning, as i swing back into gain mode..and i have felt listless and drained all day on this day of rest.
    hopefully that is a blip from all this exertion and just needing a "down day", and not my growing accustomed/dependent on Axon.
    (i don't use this on my off days)
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    My stack has me feeling the lethargy in a big way right now. I'm trying to keep the stim usage to a minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    My stack has me feeling the lethargy in a big way right now. I'm trying to keep the stim usage to a minimum.
    lethargy sux.
    i'm in the last week of my stack, been fine thruout..yesterday appears to be a blip on the radar as i feel fine today.


    last day of training in the initial 2-week 'acclimation phase' of the Freak..day off tomorrow, then we hit the second half of month #1.

    day #13
    back/triceps/shoulders, 5x8-12 w/ 3 supersets
    A1) pullups ss w/ bent over rows
    A2) dips ss w/ rope tricep pressdown
    B) standing DB military ss w/ standing DB lateral raise


    day #14
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    I still have the Asteroid Stack Manual with The Freak in it. Good work out for sure. Sounds like you just needed some rest big man. That is a lot of intensity and frequency with that workout so I can see it wearing in you a bit. Also if you feel stims are beginning to get to your receptors try taking some benadryl at night for a week it will kick them back into overdrive.

    As far as where I want to be it is right about where you are now. I think that is doable from where I am now. Just smart dieting.
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    I've read about the Benadryl but have never tried it. Hmmm
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    interesting on the benadryl..i may have heard that before, can't recall.
    hard to believe dirty receptors, taking only 2 caps/day (even if training 5-6 days/week).
    i think it was just something in the air yesterday.
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    so i'm getting ready to hop in the shower today, and i glance at myself in the mirror....
    i am impressed, couldn't resist sharing.





    on the down side:
    my training might take a hit soon, as i'll basically be doing 2 jobs for awhile now.
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    Lookin good buddy if u don't mind what do u do for a living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Lookin good buddy if u don't mind what do u do for a living?

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    Just look at it as extra recovery and make the best of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Just look at it as extra recovery and make the best of it.
    exactly.
    i'm due for some rest/recovery anyway, just dint want it to come in the middle of this program.
    i'll get my workouts in, no fears..just gonna have to sleep less
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    exactly.
    i'm due for some rest/recovery anyway, just dint want it to come in the middle of this program.
    i'll get my workouts in, no fears..just gonna have to sleep less
    Hopefully with less in those areas you are rewarded with more in the way of cold hard cash!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Hopefully with less in those areas you are rewarded with more in the way of cold hard cash!
    yeah that's the idea.
    my mortgage and child support are killin me.

    obamacare has curtailed movement in the insurance segment, effectively flatlining my career for the last couple yrs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0
    yeah that's the idea.
    my mortgage and child support are killin me.

    obamacare has curtailed movement in the insurance segment, effectively flatlining my career for the last couple yrs.
    You will make it through my friend :headup:
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    Man I couldn't take a lot more activity right now... I am pretty beat most of the time.. I sleep good though and keep recovering...ahead of the curve. Extra work take a chunk sometimes, training early AM realy does help...
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    eating what i call my 3-B meal right now..

    beef, black beans, and broccoli.

    no pic (no time!) but you get the idea.
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    You will be able to make the adjustments I think, you're an expert in making good use of your time in the gym, intensify and shorten workouts less rest between sets etc... you'll find a way...
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    In my limited experience, throttling back (extra days rest, reduced intensity, volume, etc.) has never hindered my progress physically, only psychologically. Quite the contray, when I listen to my body and ignore my inccesant 'discipline' I tend to make surprising progress. That discipline that once was a positive force for good has at times taken on a life of it's own - a life that sometimes deprives me of balance, that in this season of my life, is more important than ever....FWIW
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    surely, guys.
    balance is an important part of life..and, DD you are correct - it is more psychological than physical, the progress/frequency of training aspect.
    altho i do have to say, i look/feel better when i am training more frequently, as opposed to cutting down activity immensely.
    eh..not a big deal, in the grand scheme of things.
    thanks for the reassurance.



    couple pics of snag, in clothes after work.



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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    In my limited experience, throttling back (extra days rest, reduced intensity, volume, etc.) has never hindered my progress physically, only psychologically. Quite the contray, when I listen to my body and ignore my inccesant 'discipline' I tend to make surprising progress. That discipline that once was a positive force for good has at times taken on a life of it's own - a life that sometimes deprives me of balance, that in this season of my life, is more important than ever....FWIW
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    okay, next training phase looks like this:

    day #1 - lower body/rep scheme 1
    day #2 - upper body/rep scheme 1
    day #3 - lower body/rep scheme 2
    day #4 - upper body/rep scheme 2
    day #5 - lower body/rep scheme 3
    day #6 - upper body/rep scheme 3
    day #7 - rest
    repeat

    Lower Body Workout
    A1) Deadlift
    A2) Narrow Stance Squat
    B) Calf Press


    Upper Body Workout
    A1) 30-degree Incline DB Bench Press
    A2) Supinated Grip Pullups
    B) Dips
    Optional: Incline Bicep Curl and/or Standing DB Military Press
    NOTE: Casually alternate between movements 1 and 2; do not superset.


    The Rep Schemes
    Scheme 1: 3 x 6-8 to absolute failure
    Scheme 2: 6 x 4
    Scheme 3: 2 x 10-12 to absolute failure
    NOTE: While Iím not normally a proponent of training to failure, it is necessary when only
    performing 2-3 work sets to ensure max stimulation. Mnetally fight for every last rep.


    so, catching the training up-to-date:
    FRI 9/28
    day #1

    SAT 9/29
    day #2

    SUN 9/30
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    Interesting set up, me likey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Interesting set up, me likey.
    very effective, keeps you mentally fresh.
    and - WILL wear you down, believe me.
    program changes again in 2 weeks..just hope i can keep up with the frequency, as it is important to maintain with the lowered volume of daily work in play.
    if not, then i will change things up.
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    Do you have a trainer that sets this up for you Snag? Looks rather interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Do you have a trainer that sets this up for you Snag? Looks rather interesting.
    no cel, i don't use trainers. i am a trainer lol.
    but - you must've missed it.
    while i usually use my own programs, i'm actually doing the Freak workout by Jon Doyle, who is a pretty renowned trainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    no cel, i don't use trainers. i am a trainer lol.
    but - you must've missed it.
    while i usually use my own programs, i'm actually doing the Freak workout by Jon Doyle, who is a pretty renowned trainer.
    I didn't know Snag sorry !! Seems like a high-paced and painful version of the Eric Broser workout (Rep-Range-Shock) , not bad bro !! I had to get my mind off from the Failure mindset :/ Idk if I could get back into it haha.


    Curious to see how this treats yah brother !
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    man..my calves are lookin pretty gnarly today.
    they'll never be symmetrical again (grade 3 tear in R one couple yrs back), but they're feelin pretty good & strong these days.



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    Nice synthol usage bro....







    (sorry, after reading other thread, I had too...)
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    day #4 today, moving to rep scheme 2 on upper body.

    felt good, used 115s thruout my 6 sets on incline DB bench..i think lugging them things up and down myself is more tiresome than the actual reps themselves..
    oughtta make for some beefy forearms if done regularly for an extended period of time, LOL.

    only downside is, my elbows been bothering me a bit lately....
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    Downside to getting strong when using DBs for sure. Military presses are brutal with them. Not good about the elbow.
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    started bothering me couple weeks ago, thought it was tennis elbow at first - but then it crept into both elbows.
    been getting steadily worse, now very tender on the inside part of the elbow.
    no doubt it's from the DB - been a while since i slung around this heavy of weight, and i'm pushing hard right now....
    not to the extreme of incapacitating yet, and if it continues i may just switch over to BB work for awhile.
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    I have had to use BB for awhile now because of a forearm tendonitis. Can't grip hard with my left had at all. Have not found any solution for it yet either and not lifting isn't an option. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I have had to use BB for awhile now because of a forearm tendonitis. Can't grip hard with my left had at all. Have not found any solution for it yet either and not lifting isn't an option. Lol
    i think i got a lil bit of that forearm issue too.

    something i'm used to tho, from my massive forehand smashes in tennis..
    lasts pretty much all tennis season LOL.
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    day #5 on the training, lower body.
    looking pretty solid upon rising this morning as diet has been immaculate..
    weight ~202.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I have had to use BB for awhile now because of a forearm tendonitis. Can't grip hard with my left had at all. Have not found any solution for it yet either and not lifting isn't an option. Lol
    Generally why I hate doctors..."what can I do doc" "stop lifting"
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    pics of the day.

    which one looks better fellaz?







    i started TRS today..good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    pics of the day.

    which one looks better fellaz?







    i started TRS today..good times.
    Gonna have to go with pic 2 but both look great!
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