The Primordial Off-Season Adventure of Snags (V2.0 of course)

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  1. Taking pictures by yourself can be such a pain...trying to get the angle and everything correct is a hassle.

    Waiting for more food pics though.


  2. This will be great to see --- now beginners can understand that you DO NOT NEED TO GAIN excessive BF in order to gain muscle...dont ever justify eating like crap and gaining lots of BF because its "off-season" or bulking up time...

    -Matt
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    This will be great to see --- now beginners can understand that you DO NOT NEED TO GAIN excessive BF in order to gain muscle...dont ever justify eating like crap and gaining lots of BF because its "off-season" or bulking up time...

    -Matt
    never have i been a fan of such "strategy", and certainly it is not optimal imo.
    last off-season was the worst of my life; injuries/personal strife led me to very poor eating habits that i do not wish to duplicate.
    besides - just because some guys can eat crap off-season and get away with it ala Lee Priest for example, the majority of us would be MUCH better off with a more balanced and conscientious approach.
    (and as much as i admire Lee's physique, i surely do not wish to look like has in his past off-seasons)




  4. OMG!! That is rediculous.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  5. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    OMG!! That is rediculous.
    isn't it tho?
    and even for Lee, that was not usual - but it's what he evolved to in his "bulking" periods.
    you get that big, then try to diet down to get on stage, and even with the BEST plan and plenty of time to prepare, i don't care - you will lose some muscle in the prep process.
    just is pointless to me, let alone a very unhealthy way to live.
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  6. Yah I would love to have that man's skin elasticity don't know how he does the tight skin thing...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  7. Youth DW. His days are numbered in that arena though.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  8. as pct nears its completion, this morning i finished up TCF-1 and EndoAMP Max, and Sustain Alpha will be gone tomorrow.
    i've really enjoyed these products..all very well designed, and just cool to use.

    training this day, #5 in the schedule:
    7min light warm-up cardio
    lying leg curls (8reps) ss w/ weighted decline abs (12reps), 4 sets
    BB romanian DL (8 reps) ss w/ weighted DB sidebends (12 reps), 4 sets
    BB deadlifts 6x8/8/8/6/6/6
    7min light cooldown cardio

    felt like getting some more ab work in this day, it all meshed well together, good session.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Youth DW. His days are numbered in that arena though.
    I didn't think he was that young ...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  10. Haha, I always think of Lee with that chicken pic when guys talk about shoveling it all in.
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  11. that was 2002 when he came all the way down from 270 to 199 lbs and won the SAn FRan Pro show looking his best!

    -Matt

  12. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    that was 2002 when he came all the way down from 270 to 199 lbs and won the SAn FRan Pro show looking his best!

    -Matt
    he turned it around for sure -- i think he was so disgusted with himself for getting that fat it lit a fire under his ass!

    anyway, i know he doesn't let himself go like that anymore..

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I didn't think he was that young ...
    I would love to be that old again!! Lol
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  14. Priest is almost a year younger than me, just turned 40 last month. that ain't old, DW.
    and fyi - no longer is he an IFBB bb'er, now he's a NABBA Professional athlete.



    anyway, back to amateur me.
    was supposed to be an off-day today, but last night i had my 1x weekly couple hours "cheat window", moved up from what was supposed to be tonight..crammed about 5500cals total in (3500cal regular fare before 2k cal cheats), ate some fun stuff..now back to the grind.
    after these cheat days (that are typically in the hours before i go to bed), i really enjoy waking and running fasted training (bcaa-driven of course).
    and so, exactly what i did this day.

    day #2 in the schedule (bypassed day #1 since it's been raining, no tennis on the horizon this w/e so can do quads next session)
    7min light warm-up cardio
    flat BB bench 6x8/8/8/8/7/6
    incline DB bench 4x6/6/6/5
    inclined perfect-pec pushups, 2x max reps
    (feet positioned off end of flat bench, pushup apparatus on floor - if you want to do these w/o PP unit simply use your hands on floor, or to make it more difficult and explosive try clapping your hands in the concentric position)
    7min light cooldown cardio

    followed with smaller postWO shake this day, ~45g carbs from dextrose/brown rice syrup and 15g isolate, then consumed breakfast~30min later.

    altho some view me as rigid and inflexible (and in some ways i am ), i quite enjoy changing things up frequently..
    you will see this in my training, as i rarely run the same routine 2x in a row, preferring constant change and muscle confusion.

  15. I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    sure - the skin only has so much elasticity, as we've discussed before.
    like anything else, some ppl have more elastic skin than others..and remember, if he did that in 2002 that was 10yrs ago when he was ~30, so he's much more likely to bounce back from that than ~ age 40.
    a lot of factors can play into that aspect.

  17. as i said....
    back to the clean eats.
    nothing too special 'bout this meal, except that i love cooking on the grill -- and, the macros and cleanliness of this feast are just outta this world.



    8oz turkey breast
    1 whole egg
    romaine w/ red pepper/croutons/sweet vidalia onion dressing (~125cal salad)
    3 white cheddar rice cakes for dessert (LOVE these things)
    ~600cals total on a lower cal day of ~3250cals, 6 meals
    (off today from weight training, did get some tennis in tho)

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    I actually never even considered that. 270 to 199 is insane.
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  19. breakfast this day:
    (breakfast is also my preWO meal)
    5oz turkey breast
    2 slices toasted ezekiel cinnamon raisin w/ .5 tbs butter
    small banana
    protein shake (260cals, ~40g p/10g c/7g f)
    ~700cals

    planned training for today (day #1):
    7min cardio warm-up
    3x8 leg extensions
    6x8 atg squats, wide stance
    4x8 DB lunges, stationary
    5x10-12 BB calf raises
    7min cardio cooldown

    postWO shake/meal is still up in the air today, but i know it will include some chocolate cake (sans icing) that my son & i made friday nite..
    after not planning on tennis this w/e, will end up playing both days, as i'm scheduled for a match this afternoon and also played yesterday for ~2hrs..
    with the addtl activity on hand, will boost cal intake to ~4000 today.

    weight upon rising this morning 189.5

  20. Do you find that the adjustment in calories allows cardio to not dampen gains adequately? My diet is fairly well calculated at this point, but I have been planning to add some cals to allow for more cardio. Not using the cardio for fat loss, per se, but general health (my endurance is hell, even though I look like I am in good condition, time to make the endurance match that).

    Appreciate your input.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Do you find that the adjustment in calories allows cardio to not dampen gains adequately? My diet is fairly well calculated at this point, but I have been planning to add some cals to allow for more cardio. Not using the cardio for fat loss, per se, but general health (my endurance is hell, even though I look like I am in good condition, time to make the endurance match that).

    Appreciate your input.
    absolutely, dependent of course on the amount/kind of cardio one is doing.
    for extended activity like tennis, it is a must for me to increase cals or i drop weight rapidly, overnight.
    if one is just doing 20min sessions of light cardio, it may not be a big deal - altho i still advise a slight uptake in cals if one is in a gain mode.
    the more activity you partake in when wishing to gain muscle weight, the more the caloric intake needs to be increased, surely.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    absolutely, dependent of course on the amount/kind of cardio one is doing.
    for extended activity like tennis, it is a must for me to increase cals or i drop weight rapidly, overnight.
    if one is just doing 20min sessions of light cardio, it may not be a big deal - altho i still advise a slight uptake in cals if one is in a gain mode.
    the more activity you partake in when wishing to gain muscle weight, the more the caloric intake needs to be increased, surely.
    Appreciate the input.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    absolutely, dependent of course on the amount/kind of cardio one is doing.
    for extended activity like tennis, it is a must for me to increase cals or i drop weight rapidly, overnight.
    if one is just doing 20min sessions of light cardio, it may not be a big deal - altho i still advise a slight uptake in cals if one is in a gain mode.
    the more activity you partake in when wishing to gain muscle weight, the more the caloric intake needs to be increased, surely.
    For extra cardio I calculate at a factor of .7, I am not sold on the fact that 1 cal burned is = 1 cal consumed... I may adjust that later based on further experimentation... my algorythm should pick up anomolies over time....
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    For extra cardio I calculate at a factor of .7, I am not sold on the fact that 1 cal burned is = 1 cal consumed... I may adjust that later based on further experimentation... my algorythm should pick up anomolies over time....
    i don't base cals consumed on any chart or generic calculation.
    the mirror and the scale are what i refer to for my adjustments.

  25. thought i'd share a killer recipe i saw from Matt Porter today..yum, cannot wait to make.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    If you like keeping your fats lower while refeeding/cheating -- I can make a killer low-fat, hi protein pizza...
    get a low fat crust (boboli is decent) but you can roll out fresh sour dough pizza crust that is fat free too.
    Use fat free marinara sauce and spread liberally
    Now get some low fat string cheeses and strip them down and layer it across the crust --- now use sliced chicken breast, steak strips and low fat turkey pepperoni and decorate it well.
    More cheese over the top --- maybe some olives and BAKE.

    -Matt

  26. day off yesterday (had to rest, legs were screaming at me)..back at it today.
    flip-flopping days #3 & #4 this rotation, so shoulders/abs today:

    3x6 alternating 1-arm DB shoulder press, seated
    3x8 traditional DB shoulder press, seated
    3x6 seated lateral raises
    3x8 leaning 1-arm lateral raises, standing
    3x6 seated DB shrugs
    3x8 standing BB behind-back shrugs
    abs (majority today weighted frog sit-ups)

    was solid session.
    weight hovering in the 189's still, looks like i can continue to add some cals with this clean dietary intake so upping ~250 daily.
    totals are now ~4000cals on training days, ~3500 on rest days.
    goal is to get back up to the 200lb level within the next 3months, but remaining lean and chiseled thruout..

  27. aaaand a pic of supper tonight.



    5oz turkey breast
    5oz 93% lean beef
    1/2 cup black beans
    usual 100cal salad (only this time w/ sun dried tomato vinaigrette dressing)
    couple white cheddar rice cakes for dessert
    ~625cal feast -- still got ~700 cals to go this day, woohoo!

  28. rolling along with food pics

    i usually eat some meat w/ breakfast, along with eggs, and carbs like oats/bread/or cereal w/ almond milk (corn flakes, multi-grain or honey nut cheerios etc)..today just some ezekiel bread, and powdered carbs in my shake.
    i also alternate between grapefruit and bananas, sometimes blueberries or strawberries, but i always have a piece of fruit here.
    rarely do i have a shake for breakfast but was in a hurry this morning tho, so..looked like this today:

    1 whole egg + 2 whites
    toasted slice of ezekiel cr w/ 1/2 tbs butter
    1 grapefruit
    protein shake (~320cals, 36g p/28g carbs/7g f)
    ~625cals total


  29. interesting training layout today.

    back/bi/tri weight session, then postWO shake..got a call for some tennis as i was finishing up, so decided to forego the postWO meal and took off for the courts... did take some dextrose+brown rice syrup+hydrolyzed protein mixture to drink during/after tennis, was ~40g carbs and 35g protein drink; then ate immediately afterwards.
    the workout looked like this:

    7min light cardio warm-up
    4x8 weighted pull-ups
    4x8 weighted chin-ups
    3x8/6/6 bent BB rows
    3x12/10/8 D-grip seated pulleys, 45 degree angle
    3x8 standing BB curls ss w/
    3x8 weighted dips (tri focused)
    3x8 alternate DB curls ss w/
    3x8 DB kickouts
    no cooldown this day, as i jetted out to get tennis in.

    weight is back in the 190s guyz!! yeahhhhh (190.2 upon rising)
    still lean and veiny, feeling great!

  30. Looks like you have the cals figured out. Lets see where this level gets you.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
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