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    that was 2002 when he came all the way down from 270 to 199 lbs and won the SAn FRan Pro show looking his best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    that was 2002 when he came all the way down from 270 to 199 lbs and won the SAn FRan Pro show looking his best!

    -Matt
    he turned it around for sure -- i think he was so disgusted with himself for getting that fat it lit a fire under his ass!

    anyway, i know he doesn't let himself go like that anymore..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I didn't think he was that young ...
    I would love to be that old again!! Lol
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    Priest is almost a year younger than me, just turned 40 last month. that ain't old, DW.
    and fyi - no longer is he an IFBB bb'er, now he's a NABBA Professional athlete.



    anyway, back to amateur me.
    was supposed to be an off-day today, but last night i had my 1x weekly couple hours "cheat window", moved up from what was supposed to be tonight..crammed about 5500cals total in (3500cal regular fare before 2k cal cheats), ate some fun stuff..now back to the grind.
    after these cheat days (that are typically in the hours before i go to bed), i really enjoy waking and running fasted training (bcaa-driven of course).
    and so, exactly what i did this day.

    day #2 in the schedule (bypassed day #1 since it's been raining, no tennis on the horizon this w/e so can do quads next session)
    7min light warm-up cardio
    flat BB bench 6x8/8/8/8/7/6
    incline DB bench 4x6/6/6/5
    inclined perfect-pec pushups, 2x max reps
    (feet positioned off end of flat bench, pushup apparatus on floor - if you want to do these w/o PP unit simply use your hands on floor, or to make it more difficult and explosive try clapping your hands in the concentric position)
    7min light cooldown cardio

    followed with smaller postWO shake this day, ~45g carbs from dextrose/brown rice syrup and 15g isolate, then consumed breakfast~30min later.

    altho some view me as rigid and inflexible (and in some ways i am ), i quite enjoy changing things up frequently..
    you will see this in my training, as i rarely run the same routine 2x in a row, preferring constant change and muscle confusion.
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    I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    sure - the skin only has so much elasticity, as we've discussed before.
    like anything else, some ppl have more elastic skin than others..and remember, if he did that in 2002 that was 10yrs ago when he was ~30, so he's much more likely to bounce back from that than ~ age 40.
    a lot of factors can play into that aspect.
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    as i said....
    back to the clean eats.
    nothing too special 'bout this meal, except that i love cooking on the grill -- and, the macros and cleanliness of this feast are just outta this world.



    8oz turkey breast
    1 whole egg
    romaine w/ red pepper/croutons/sweet vidalia onion dressing (~125cal salad)
    3 white cheddar rice cakes for dessert (LOVE these things)
    ~600cals total on a lower cal day of ~3250cals, 6 meals
    (off today from weight training, did get some tennis in tho)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    I actually never even considered that. 270 to 199 is insane.
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    breakfast this day:
    (breakfast is also my preWO meal)
    5oz turkey breast
    2 slices toasted ezekiel cinnamon raisin w/ .5 tbs butter
    small banana
    protein shake (260cals, ~40g p/10g c/7g f)
    ~700cals

    planned training for today (day #1):
    7min cardio warm-up
    3x8 leg extensions
    6x8 atg squats, wide stance
    4x8 DB lunges, stationary
    5x10-12 BB calf raises
    7min cardio cooldown

    postWO shake/meal is still up in the air today, but i know it will include some chocolate cake (sans icing) that my son & i made friday nite..
    after not planning on tennis this w/e, will end up playing both days, as i'm scheduled for a match this afternoon and also played yesterday for ~2hrs..
    with the addtl activity on hand, will boost cal intake to ~4000 today.

    weight upon rising this morning 189.5
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    Do you find that the adjustment in calories allows cardio to not dampen gains adequately? My diet is fairly well calculated at this point, but I have been planning to add some cals to allow for more cardio. Not using the cardio for fat loss, per se, but general health (my endurance is hell, even though I look like I am in good condition, time to make the endurance match that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Do you find that the adjustment in calories allows cardio to not dampen gains adequately? My diet is fairly well calculated at this point, but I have been planning to add some cals to allow for more cardio. Not using the cardio for fat loss, per se, but general health (my endurance is hell, even though I look like I am in good condition, time to make the endurance match that).

    Appreciate your input.
    absolutely, dependent of course on the amount/kind of cardio one is doing.
    for extended activity like tennis, it is a must for me to increase cals or i drop weight rapidly, overnight.
    if one is just doing 20min sessions of light cardio, it may not be a big deal - altho i still advise a slight uptake in cals if one is in a gain mode.
    the more activity you partake in when wishing to gain muscle weight, the more the caloric intake needs to be increased, surely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    absolutely, dependent of course on the amount/kind of cardio one is doing.
    for extended activity like tennis, it is a must for me to increase cals or i drop weight rapidly, overnight.
    if one is just doing 20min sessions of light cardio, it may not be a big deal - altho i still advise a slight uptake in cals if one is in a gain mode.
    the more activity you partake in when wishing to gain muscle weight, the more the caloric intake needs to be increased, surely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    absolutely, dependent of course on the amount/kind of cardio one is doing.
    for extended activity like tennis, it is a must for me to increase cals or i drop weight rapidly, overnight.
    if one is just doing 20min sessions of light cardio, it may not be a big deal - altho i still advise a slight uptake in cals if one is in a gain mode.
    the more activity you partake in when wishing to gain muscle weight, the more the caloric intake needs to be increased, surely.
    For extra cardio I calculate at a factor of .7, I am not sold on the fact that 1 cal burned is = 1 cal consumed... I may adjust that later based on further experimentation... my algorythm should pick up anomolies over time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    For extra cardio I calculate at a factor of .7, I am not sold on the fact that 1 cal burned is = 1 cal consumed... I may adjust that later based on further experimentation... my algorythm should pick up anomolies over time....
    i don't base cals consumed on any chart or generic calculation.
    the mirror and the scale are what i refer to for my adjustments.
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    thought i'd share a killer recipe i saw from Matt Porter today..yum, cannot wait to make.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    If you like keeping your fats lower while refeeding/cheating -- I can make a killer low-fat, hi protein pizza...
    get a low fat crust (boboli is decent) but you can roll out fresh sour dough pizza crust that is fat free too.
    Use fat free marinara sauce and spread liberally
    Now get some low fat string cheeses and strip them down and layer it across the crust --- now use sliced chicken breast, steak strips and low fat turkey pepperoni and decorate it well.
    More cheese over the top --- maybe some olives and BAKE.

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    day off yesterday (had to rest, legs were screaming at me)..back at it today.
    flip-flopping days #3 & #4 this rotation, so shoulders/abs today:

    3x6 alternating 1-arm DB shoulder press, seated
    3x8 traditional DB shoulder press, seated
    3x6 seated lateral raises
    3x8 leaning 1-arm lateral raises, standing
    3x6 seated DB shrugs
    3x8 standing BB behind-back shrugs
    abs (majority today weighted frog sit-ups)

    was solid session.
    weight hovering in the 189's still, looks like i can continue to add some cals with this clean dietary intake so upping ~250 daily.
    totals are now ~4000cals on training days, ~3500 on rest days.
    goal is to get back up to the 200lb level within the next 3months, but remaining lean and chiseled thruout..
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    aaaand a pic of supper tonight.



    5oz turkey breast
    5oz 93% lean beef
    1/2 cup black beans
    usual 100cal salad (only this time w/ sun dried tomato vinaigrette dressing)
    couple white cheddar rice cakes for dessert
    ~625cal feast -- still got ~700 cals to go this day, woohoo!
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    rolling along with food pics

    i usually eat some meat w/ breakfast, along with eggs, and carbs like oats/bread/or cereal w/ almond milk (corn flakes, multi-grain or honey nut cheerios etc)..today just some ezekiel bread, and powdered carbs in my shake.
    i also alternate between grapefruit and bananas, sometimes blueberries or strawberries, but i always have a piece of fruit here.
    rarely do i have a shake for breakfast but was in a hurry this morning tho, so..looked like this today:

    1 whole egg + 2 whites
    toasted slice of ezekiel cr w/ 1/2 tbs butter
    1 grapefruit
    protein shake (~320cals, 36g p/28g carbs/7g f)
    ~625cals total

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    interesting training layout today.

    back/bi/tri weight session, then postWO shake..got a call for some tennis as i was finishing up, so decided to forego the postWO meal and took off for the courts... did take some dextrose+brown rice syrup+hydrolyzed protein mixture to drink during/after tennis, was ~40g carbs and 35g protein drink; then ate immediately afterwards.
    the workout looked like this:

    7min light cardio warm-up
    4x8 weighted pull-ups
    4x8 weighted chin-ups
    3x8/6/6 bent BB rows
    3x12/10/8 D-grip seated pulleys, 45 degree angle
    3x8 standing BB curls ss w/
    3x8 weighted dips (tri focused)
    3x8 alternate DB curls ss w/
    3x8 DB kickouts
    no cooldown this day, as i jetted out to get tennis in.

    weight is back in the 190s guyz!! yeahhhhh (190.2 upon rising)
    still lean and veiny, feeling great!
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    Looks like you have the cals figured out. Lets see where this level gets you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Looks like you have the cals figured out. Lets see where this level gets you.
    YES - took me a minute..i've never eaten quite this clean with this amount of carbs/lower fat before. i ran a form of keto for a very extended period of time in the past, but really just maintained thruout, adding very little actual weight.
    i'm quite ambitious this time around..time to bring back the size of yesteryear.
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    I am also playing the same game right now. I am keeping full obliques but still gaining weight. Naturally too. Good stuff champ!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I am also playing the same game right now. I am keeping full obliques but still gaining weight. Naturally too. Good stuff champ!
    right back at ya my friend.
    you got a log up i don't know about?
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    lil update pic of da wheels as i jumped outta the shower a bit ago.

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    Nah, not doing much logging anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Nah, not doing much logging anymore.
    ahh that's too bad man.
    guys could learn a lot from you.
    keep at it - i wanna see that end result!
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    I'll be doing this until they toe tag me Lol
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    aaaand a tasty lil snack.



    3oz chicken breast chunks
    15 wheat thins (sundried tomato basil flav, yum)
    3 dried apricots
    5oz albacore tuna w/ 1 tbs salsa
    ~475cals
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    I used to pound dried apricots. I've gone to raisins now. I put salsa on almost anything too. The spicier the better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I put salsa on almost anything too. The spicier the better!
    my man!
    oh - if you haven't yet, check out that French's dijon mustard w/ chardonnay..ahh man, beef went to a whole nother level with that stuff (and i've loved beef my whole life)
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    I too am a salsa man. Eggs, burgers, chicken. It all tastes better with salsa
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    Juevos rancheros..yummy!! My son came home from school awhile back with this pineapple salsa that was smoking hot. Baked up a pan of chicken breasts in it and heaven was served. Spread the salsa from the pan on my brown rice and went to town. He will be sending me a case for sure. Lol
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    I am usually just a hot sauce guy. Everything from the mild to the extremely hot.
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    Love me some salsa, but I tend to use hot sauce more often than salsa. I just tend to enjoy spicy food in general though. Loving the food pics as usual.
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    I have a local Mex restaurant where I grab pints of their fresh salsa. I lather that stuff on everything.
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    feeling nice and swole after a cheat day yesterday (yes i said day, not meal or window)..
    after a solid usual ~600cal breakfast and then a 600cal protein bar+MuscleMilk RTD for my second feeding (both of those being a rarity for me, but i needed something quick and on the fly), i ended up at the Hibachi Grill Supreme Buffet.
    oooooooooooooo man....an hour later (and 4 heaping plates worth of tasties such as general tso's chicken/sweet&sour chicken/baked whitefish/baked salmon/fried crab/stuffed crab/stuffed shrimp/butter mushrooms/green beens/and of course some crab rangoon ) i was done..
    until, about 3hrs later when i was hungry again. anyway, i won't detail what all i had from there on out, but it was a "free day" to say the very least (altho, i did finish up the day with a nice protein shake pre-bed ahaaa).
    dint gain as much o/n as i thought i would, only ~3.5lbs, weight at 194.1 upon rising (and before bowel movement of course ).
    ran FTP for training (fasted training protocol), a bcaa+liquid hydrolyzed protein driven session..decided to do chest this day and hit legs over the w/e. and so, it was a hybrid session like this:

    7min cardio warm-up
    5x5 flat DB bench press (2min rests)
    3x8 DB squeeze press (1:45 rests)
    4x15/12/10/8 BB incline press (bar touching collarbone in eccentric position, pause; 1:30 rests)
    5 sets abs
    15min cardio (10min HIIT/5min cooldown)

    was nice session..followed with ~700cal breakast ~20min later.

    update pic of the upper body.

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    I strayed a bit as well last night. Let's just say there was some cinnamon bread,almond butter,and honey involved. My 8yr old daughter twisted my arm pretty hard. Lol I have a brutal back workout today so this will be put to good use.

    That buffet sounds like a dream big guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I strayed a bit as well last night. Let's just say there was some cinnamon bread,almond butter,and honey involved. My 8yr old daughter twisted my arm pretty hard. Lol I have a brutal back workout today so this will be put to good use.

    That buffet sounds like a dream big guy.
    your kids always sound so ferocious AZ.

    and yeah - not a fan typically of buffets, but this one was top-shelf..clean, quality, lots of variety (of course they had sushi bar & hibachi grill there too; i don't do sushi, and at night/dinner they have a bit more fare like new york strip steak cooked to taste right in front of you, etc..will go back for dinner time one of these days for sure).
    what i had tho was absolutely scintillating.
    i highly recommend this joint, no hesitation.
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    back to the diet..a lil 525cal early afternoon snack.



    1pk tuna creations (~175cals)
    couple rice cakes (~90cals)
    protein shake (~260cals)
    cals will end up ~3500 this day, lower in carbs & fats than usual but not stringently so.
    tomorrow i'll be eating out at Ruby Tuesday, it's where my son wants me to take him for his birthday meal, so gotta be on point diet-wise today and sunday.
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    yesterday's training:
    combined quads/hams/calves for traditional leg day in AM, also got ~1.5hrs of tennis later in PM.

    8x8 BB box squats
    8x8 BB rack RDLs
    5x10-12 BB calf raises off step

    solid session - these heavy weights are feeling both super good and also catching up with me..
    awoke this morning sorer than a mugged wino.
    still gonna get some bi/tri/abs in this day, and mow my yard this afternoon..tomorrow is off day.
    this will be the 3rd day in a row i've ran fasted training upon rising - don't know how much longer i'll do it and you'd think it is contradictory in a lean bulk phase, but i am really seeing some great short-term results from it offsetting my one heavy cheat day (consumed 3500cals the next day, ~4300 yesterday, target is ~4k this day).
  

  
 

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