The Primordial Off-Season Adventure of Snags (V2.0 of course)

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  1. And thick too
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons


  2. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    It gets wider?!?
    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    And thick too
    most definitely guys.
    i anticipate making the most gains this off-season in my back (lower esp) and hams, as well as getting my shoulders back to where they used to be before impingement issues from last year.

    it's gonna be a GREAT time.
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  3. lil sample of dinner tonight (sry, no pic guys, but good enuff to talk about)

    6oz grilled turkey breast, salt & pepper
    1/2 cup seasoned black beans
    1 whole egg/2 whites
    romaine w/ red bell peppers/onion/croutons/dressing (~100cal salad)
    2 rice cakes (dessert y'know)

    total ~550cals

    i bring this up, to show how clean i'm keeping things..what i have found is, i'll need to bump cals with this diet as i've dropped to 187 (and keep getting more ripped, more veins) despite 3500cal intake, gonna move to ~3750 and monitor.
    my Pp run seems to have had lingering effects on my metabolism.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    lil sample of dinner tonight (sry, no pic guys, but good enuff to talk about)

    6oz grilled turkey breast, salt & pepper
    1/2 cup seasoned black beans
    1 whole egg/2 whites
    romaine w/ red bell peppers/onion/croutons/dressing (~100cal salad)
    2 rice cakes (dessert y'know)

    total ~550cals

    i bring this up, to show how clean i'm keeping things..what i have found is, i'll need to bump cals with this diet as i've dropped to 187 (and keep getting more ripped, more veins) despite 3500cal intake, gonna move to ~3750 and monitor.
    my Pp run seems to have had lingering effects on my metabolism.
    Your dedication to eating clean, even when looking to add big weight is inspiring, good work.
    Just inject.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Your dedication to eating clean, even when looking to add big weight is inspiring, good work.
    thanks my friend. if i can inspire thru this log, that's what it's all about!

    so, with that thought in mind, here is some inspiration this day....
    (i could not for the life of me get the right angle/shot i wanted to of this, so took a few ahaa)







    as mentioned - i said those shoulders WILL be resurrected, there will be no failure on this.

    training today:
    7min light warm-up cardio
    military press 8x8
    single DB shoulder press (8reps) ss w/ lying rear delt flyes (12reps), 3 sets
    standing laterals 3x8
    seated overhead DB press, triceps (8 reps) ss w/ reverse-grip pressdowns (12reps), 3 sets
    DB kickbacks 3x10
    abs
    7min light cooldown cardio

    good times, feel swole.
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  6. Taking pictures by yourself can be such a pain...trying to get the angle and everything correct is a hassle.

    Waiting for more food pics though.

  7. This will be great to see --- now beginners can understand that you DO NOT NEED TO GAIN excessive BF in order to gain muscle...dont ever justify eating like crap and gaining lots of BF because its "off-season" or bulking up time...

    -Matt

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    This will be great to see --- now beginners can understand that you DO NOT NEED TO GAIN excessive BF in order to gain muscle...dont ever justify eating like crap and gaining lots of BF because its "off-season" or bulking up time...

    -Matt
    never have i been a fan of such "strategy", and certainly it is not optimal imo.
    last off-season was the worst of my life; injuries/personal strife led me to very poor eating habits that i do not wish to duplicate.
    besides - just because some guys can eat crap off-season and get away with it ala Lee Priest for example, the majority of us would be MUCH better off with a more balanced and conscientious approach.
    (and as much as i admire Lee's physique, i surely do not wish to look like has in his past off-seasons)




  9. OMG!! That is rediculous.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  10. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    OMG!! That is rediculous.
    isn't it tho?
    and even for Lee, that was not usual - but it's what he evolved to in his "bulking" periods.
    you get that big, then try to diet down to get on stage, and even with the BEST plan and plenty of time to prepare, i don't care - you will lose some muscle in the prep process.
    just is pointless to me, let alone a very unhealthy way to live.

  11. Yah I would love to have that man's skin elasticity don't know how he does the tight skin thing...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  12. Youth DW. His days are numbered in that arena though.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  13. as pct nears its completion, this morning i finished up TCF-1 and EndoAMP Max, and Sustain Alpha will be gone tomorrow.
    i've really enjoyed these products..all very well designed, and just cool to use.

    training this day, #5 in the schedule:
    7min light warm-up cardio
    lying leg curls (8reps) ss w/ weighted decline abs (12reps), 4 sets
    BB romanian DL (8 reps) ss w/ weighted DB sidebends (12 reps), 4 sets
    BB deadlifts 6x8/8/8/6/6/6
    7min light cooldown cardio

    felt like getting some more ab work in this day, it all meshed well together, good session.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Youth DW. His days are numbered in that arena though.
    I didn't think he was that young ...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  15. Haha, I always think of Lee with that chicken pic when guys talk about shoveling it all in.
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  16. that was 2002 when he came all the way down from 270 to 199 lbs and won the SAn FRan Pro show looking his best!

    -Matt

  17. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    that was 2002 when he came all the way down from 270 to 199 lbs and won the SAn FRan Pro show looking his best!

    -Matt
    he turned it around for sure -- i think he was so disgusted with himself for getting that fat it lit a fire under his ass!

    anyway, i know he doesn't let himself go like that anymore..

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I didn't think he was that young ...
    I would love to be that old again!! Lol
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  19. Priest is almost a year younger than me, just turned 40 last month. that ain't old, DW.
    and fyi - no longer is he an IFBB bb'er, now he's a NABBA Professional athlete.



    anyway, back to amateur me.
    was supposed to be an off-day today, but last night i had my 1x weekly couple hours "cheat window", moved up from what was supposed to be tonight..crammed about 5500cals total in (3500cal regular fare before 2k cal cheats), ate some fun stuff..now back to the grind.
    after these cheat days (that are typically in the hours before i go to bed), i really enjoy waking and running fasted training (bcaa-driven of course).
    and so, exactly what i did this day.

    day #2 in the schedule (bypassed day #1 since it's been raining, no tennis on the horizon this w/e so can do quads next session)
    7min light warm-up cardio
    flat BB bench 6x8/8/8/8/7/6
    incline DB bench 4x6/6/6/5
    inclined perfect-pec pushups, 2x max reps
    (feet positioned off end of flat bench, pushup apparatus on floor - if you want to do these w/o PP unit simply use your hands on floor, or to make it more difficult and explosive try clapping your hands in the concentric position)
    7min light cooldown cardio

    followed with smaller postWO shake this day, ~45g carbs from dextrose/brown rice syrup and 15g isolate, then consumed breakfast~30min later.

    altho some view me as rigid and inflexible (and in some ways i am ), i quite enjoy changing things up frequently..
    you will see this in my training, as i rarely run the same routine 2x in a row, preferring constant change and muscle confusion.

  20. I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    sure - the skin only has so much elasticity, as we've discussed before.
    like anything else, some ppl have more elastic skin than others..and remember, if he did that in 2002 that was 10yrs ago when he was ~30, so he's much more likely to bounce back from that than ~ age 40.
    a lot of factors can play into that aspect.

  22. as i said....
    back to the clean eats.
    nothing too special 'bout this meal, except that i love cooking on the grill -- and, the macros and cleanliness of this feast are just outta this world.



    8oz turkey breast
    1 whole egg
    romaine w/ red pepper/croutons/sweet vidalia onion dressing (~125cal salad)
    3 white cheddar rice cakes for dessert (LOVE these things)
    ~600cals total on a lower cal day of ~3250cals, 6 meals
    (off today from weight training, did get some tennis in tho)

  23. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I knew he wasn't old but that skin thing has to start catching up soon ... maybe not, even mine seems to bet getting tighter...
    I actually never even considered that. 270 to 199 is insane.
    Just inject.
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  24. breakfast this day:
    (breakfast is also my preWO meal)
    5oz turkey breast
    2 slices toasted ezekiel cinnamon raisin w/ .5 tbs butter
    small banana
    protein shake (260cals, ~40g p/10g c/7g f)
    ~700cals

    planned training for today (day #1):
    7min cardio warm-up
    3x8 leg extensions
    6x8 atg squats, wide stance
    4x8 DB lunges, stationary
    5x10-12 BB calf raises
    7min cardio cooldown

    postWO shake/meal is still up in the air today, but i know it will include some chocolate cake (sans icing) that my son & i made friday nite..
    after not planning on tennis this w/e, will end up playing both days, as i'm scheduled for a match this afternoon and also played yesterday for ~2hrs..
    with the addtl activity on hand, will boost cal intake to ~4000 today.

    weight upon rising this morning 189.5

  25. Do you find that the adjustment in calories allows cardio to not dampen gains adequately? My diet is fairly well calculated at this point, but I have been planning to add some cals to allow for more cardio. Not using the cardio for fat loss, per se, but general health (my endurance is hell, even though I look like I am in good condition, time to make the endurance match that).

    Appreciate your input.
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