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    Any headaches attributed to AL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    Any headaches attributed to AL?
    None in my experience. Running 6 caps.
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    We're good. Must've been a sinus issue. It's gone. Did a couple nights of saline through the nostrils and was good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    We're good. Must've been a sinus issue. It's gone. Did a couple nights of saline through the nostrils and was good to go.
    Nettie Pot? Those things are amazing in terms of clearing me up.
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    Funny you said that. I bought one at the wife's request and neither of have used it once because of so many health issues being attributed to them. Honestly though, we're both a little OCD and clean freaks, I should give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    Funny you said that. I bought one at the wife's request and neither of have used it once because of so many health issues being attributed to them. Honestly though, we're both a little OCD and clean freaks, I should give it a try.
    My gf had to convince me to give it a try, but the relief it gives in unmatched.
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    So I started bottle #2 of my AL. Still nothing beneficial to report. Absolutely no change in strength, endurance and/or composition that is different than normal.
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    I love to netti pot! Nothing clears up my sinuses like it does, it benefits my sleep and breathing overall a lot. I wonder if you would notice more results from the AL if you upped the dose? Or it may just be a compound you dont respond well too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKrabbe
    Or it may just be a compound you dont respond well too...
    Kind of an expensive investment that doesn't seem like its panning out...
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    How is this run treating you now?
    Here is my loghttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216779-bigguy-vs-wilpit.htmlhttp://supplementreviews.com/users/mhseaver670/reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigguyn10ec
    How is this run treating you now?
    So far, not great. I dropped the AD because it was making really tired. I also don't seem to be getting much of an effect from the AL.
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    damn that sucks I hate to hear that.
    Here is my loghttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216779-bigguy-vs-wilpit.htmlhttp://supplementreviews.com/users/mhseaver670/reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigguyn10ec
    damn that sucks I hate to hear that.
    Oh well. Like I said kind of an expensive way to find out, guess I'll try something else when I'm done.
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    It is really odd that you are experiencing nothing.
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    Funny you said that. I bought one at the wife's request and neither of have used it once because of so many health issues being attributed to them. Honestly though, we're both a little OCD and clean freaks, I should give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy
    It is really odd that you are experiencing nothing.
    Really I'm an adult and am very aware how supplements are. Some work, some don't and the ones that do may not work on everyone. I've been using supplements since Xenadrine came out with ephedra so I'm not new to the world just new to PH's. I'm not posting any of this to get restitution or bash PP and the products. I'm still going to finish the cycle and use the TRS2. It's cool. Maybe I should've gotten AH instead but I really only wanted some serious cutting power. No worries. I'll keep y'all posted if anything changes.
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    Rx Jump Ropes are better than the buddy lee in my opinion...good info on this as I am a crossfit athlete and looking into some cutting suplements as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigermojo
    Rx Jump Ropes are better than the buddy lee in my opinion...good info on this as I am a crossfit athlete and looking into some cutting suplements as well.
    With jump ropes I find it's very much dependent on the person. Same debate could be had with lifting shoes, running shoes, diets, 5/3/1 or Westside...etc. I was only speaking in my experience the buddy lees are great. I've never actually seen anyone use Rx Jump Ropes. There's the Again Faster ones too but I don't like those and they leave a pretty gnarly mark.
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    Of course...but to answer that guys question...the most popular way to measure the rope is to have the part that meets the handle come up to mid chest/nipples
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    Really I'm an adult and am very aware how supplements are. Some work, some don't and the ones that do may not work on everyone. I've been using supplements since Xenadrine came out with ephedra so I'm not new to the world just new to PH's. I'm not posting any of this to get restitution or bash PP and the products. I'm still going to finish the cycle and use the TRS2. It's cool. Maybe I should've gotten AH instead but I really only wanted some serious cutting power. No worries. I'll keep y'all posted if anything changes.
    I wasn't accusing you of bashing or in anyway trying to imply that your results are not genuine. I am actually following your log with real interest in how it turns out for you, I was just merely stating that it was odd, not untrue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy
    I wasn't accusing you of bashing or in anyway trying to imply that your results are not genuine. I am actually following your log with real interest in how it turns out for you, I was just merely stating that it was odd, not untrue.
    No no no. I didn't think that. I was more or less staring it for everyone. I don't think anyone thought that. I just didn't want anyone to get the wrong impression of my statements and what the product was or wasn't doing for me.
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    Trying to nip it in the bud in case anyone thought that was the angle I was going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    No no no. I didn't think that. I was more or less staring it for everyone. I don't think anyone thought that. I just didn't want anyone to get the wrong impression of my statements and what the product was or wasn't doing for me.
    Ahh, ok cool. I had read it and was like "Noo! I am not accusing at all!" lol. I appreciate both positive and negative feedback. Hoping we see a bit of a shift here.
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    So i just saw, Dermatherm Gel, I was wondering what the opinions of running this solo? Would it have any effect or should I try and add this to my last 3-4 weeks of my AL cycle? Im trying to take advantage of the last few weeks of this cycle. As yet, no changes.
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    Also, I have exactly 128caps left of AL. This will give me exactly 21 days left of 6ED. Or, should I go to 8 AL ED which would give me 16 days of 8ED. Any suggestions?
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    Continue at 6. Dermatherm can be used solo, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to add it to your cycle now, since it seems to be slow for you. AndroEnhance would be another option, but there is obviously an increased expense to going that route.
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    If I run Dermatherm solo would PCT be needed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    If I run Dermatherm solo would PCT be needed?

    Yes, but you can go light. Sustain alpha or TCF-1 should be good.
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    Just an off the cuff question: would phosphatydilserine (sp?) mess up the cycle. @ 100mg 3x a day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    So far, not great. I dropped the AD because it was making really tired. I also don't seem to be getting much of an effect from the AL.
    Dude I responded exactly the same to AD. I just wrote up a small review in this forum. It did nothing positive for me at any dosage. It does jack blood pressure up nicely though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    Just an off the cuff question: would phosphatydilserine (sp?) mess up the cycle. @ 100mg 3x a day?
    Not that I am aware of.

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    Dude I responded exactly the same to AD. I just wrote up a small review in this forum. It did nothing positive for me at any dosage. It does jack blood pressure up nicely though.

    Sorry to hear about your experience. The BP is really strange though, was it taken solo?
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    Ill say I have had no adverse or weird reactions. No noticeable changes in auxiliary body functions or endocrine response. Just so far no real empirical results either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Not that I am aware of.




    Sorry to hear about your experience. The BP is really strange though, was it taken solo?

    My blood pressure is normally 125/60-70 (I am taking a BP med to keep it there). When I had it tested, I was taking AD + AH. My BP was 142/95. Someone had told me it was due to the AD.
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    So I finished my 8wk cycle of AL a couple days ago and have been doing the TRS. I have to admit, sadly, I found absolutely no difference in leanness, strength or any other noticeable, despite how minimal, change. I'm pretty upset about it but its no one else's fault but my own. I'm sure it has and will work for others but it did not in any way, shape or form work for me. Also, the TRS tastes like, well not good, but I don't expect it to be a nectar of the gods either. I do like how sustain alpha feels though, there's an upside I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316
    So I finished my 8wk cycle of AL a couple days ago and have been doing the TRS. I have to admit, sadly, I found absolutely no difference in leanness, strength or any other noticeable, despite how minimal, change. I'm pretty upset about it but its no one else's fault but my own. I'm sure it has and will work for others but it did not in any way, shape or form work for me. Also, the TRS tastes like, well not good, but I don't expect it to be a nectar of the gods either. I do like how sustain alpha feels though, there's an upside I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Nothing @ all from AndroLean?
    I am sincerely sorry to say, no. Not a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316

    I am sincerely sorry to say, no. Not a thing.
    That's crazy. I used AL v1 and loved it. But than again I stacked it with Epi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman

    That's crazy. I used AL v1 and loved it. But than again I stacked it with Epi.
    Well, I don't know what to say. I didn't stack with anything really. Did the AL + AD for the first week but was super tired everyday from the AD (another odd thing). I dropped the AD and felt fine in AL but I saw no changes in body comp, no changes in anything at all. I don't know. I may give Dermatherm a try, maybe 8 weeks of AH in a month or so. Maybe none of those and go straight to AAS, which I've never done but would be willing to try. We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316

    Well, I don't know what to say. I didn't stack with anything really. Did the AL + AD for the first week but was super tired everyday from the AD (another odd thing). I dropped the AD and felt fine in AL but I saw no changes in body comp, no changes in anything at all. I don't know. I may give Dermatherm a try, maybe 8 weeks of AH in a month or so. Maybe none of those and go straight to AAS, which I've never done but would be willing to try. We'll see.
    That is weird. Yea I've heard AD has given a lot of people lethargy for some strange reason. I'm dying to try AL v3. I might give it a run come spring time. Dermatherm is good stuff from what I've read. Never tried it myself. Idk IMO I won't run AH alone. Stack it better.
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