Snagency Primordially shifts to V2.0, 16-week bodybuilding prep with Andro Series

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    And again, my thanks for the latitude David. As I've told you, I am appreciative.
    Yes, I'm a big boy, and would love to answer things myself..I am an open book, and am not trying to dodge questions.
    The ability to be able to post without censorship and delay would be tremendously valuable, in this log.
    You and I are in agreement. As I stated, it appears to be related to a vB update that ownership recently made on the board. You are not being censored. Its relative to new member/post count and not an intentional action but likely to control spambots and the likes.

    Additionally, I cannot control what your 'fans' have to say here on out. I have cleaned up a couple posts but the spirit and atmosphere in here will be entirely dependent upon your humilty and transparency. You can also ignore negativity. I know you of all people must be able to appreciate how much I have to tolerate when I am simply holding members accountable to adhere to board policies regarding their conduct here.

    You're good.
    I have no enemies. My friends intensely despise me.


  2. Very good David, and again my thanks. I did not understand what you meant by the vB update, and now do.
    And yes, I can surely appreciate the banalities you must deal with daily..(would not want)
    As far as negativity, I have absolutely no desire to engage.
    My sole purpose here is to share my experience with these products. For those who wish to actively participate in thread, I will be totally forthcoming. For those who wish to indulge in bashing or instigation, i will ignore. It is quite that simple.

    One thing I would like to say: for the few guys whose threads I had subscribed to (you know who you are, and my posts are no longer in your threads), it is not personal, or a lack of interest in your journey.. rather, I will be posting in this thread only going forward so as not to create any inadvertent controversy in your logs. I do wish you guys the best, and trust me when I say I will keep an eye on you from afar.

    Now.......
    Next updates coming this w/e. I am stoked.
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  3. Welcome back over Snag! I'll be following along...will be esp interesting if you do decide to toss in Mechabol

  4. Great Chest shot Snags. Doesn't look like you have missed a beat.
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  5. I know it is way too early but, what weight do you hope to compete at?
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I know it is way too early but, what weight do you hope to compete at?
    Wherever I fall in at, brother.
    It makes me no difference. Gotta beat out all the classes to win the overall trophy anyway, right?



  7. Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    Welcome back over Snag! I'll be following along...will be esp interesting if you do decide to toss in Mechabol
    Welcome my friend, great to see you here.
    Mechabol is a done deal, barring any unforseen developments.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Great Chest shot Snags. Doesn't look like you have missed a beat.
    Thanks Chris. I don't feel quite the same myself..have lost some muscle mass in my time off.
    I want my back to look like yours in your avi tho when I'm done.
    Great shot yourself.

  8. In for this one man. 16 week oral cycle gonna be interesting, suppressive or not. Good luck man.
    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    We can't be affected we must just be injected. Injected with knowledge.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/193825-operation-spring-break.html

  9. Quote Originally Posted by NuclearLaunch View Post
    In for this one man. 16 week oral cycle gonna be interesting, suppressive or not. Good luck man.
    Welcome aboard, and thanks.
    16 weeks seemed long to me too, but I'm trusting the safety of the Andro Series product.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    Welcome aboard, and thanks.
    16 weeks seemed long to me too, but I'm trusting the safety of the Andro Series product.
    They won't let you down
    Just inject.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    Welcome aboard, and thanks.
    16 weeks seemed long to me too, but I'm trusting the safety of the Andro Series product.
    I did 10 weeks of something similar last year and will be doing 12 weeks of 550xd and Epi-v starting late may. I like the idea of the longer run but you have to use the safer products. You should be ok.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  12. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    They won't let you down
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I did 10 weeks of something similar last year and will be doing 12 weeks of 550xd and Epi-v starting late may. I like the idea of the longer run but you have to use the safer products. You should be ok.
    Counting on the safety factor guys. Truly.
    I'm not the kind of individual who is short-sided and doesn't care about long-term effects, looking at only "today".
    I have confidence in Pp products, and their guidance.


    And a small update..

    To this point, I have been shocked by the rapid bodyfat loss I have experienced in the first 5 days. I took steps to eliminate some water weight last week leading up to the start of my cycle on SAT, and started that day weighing in @197.5lbs. This morning, I weighed in @192.7lbs. Diet has been steady @4k cals, and have trained every day.
    I had also started a fat-burner and TT-33 by iForce last week, figuring I'd prime the metabolism for the increased caloric load..I made the decision to drop those items yesterday. I simply do not believe I need them at this time. Rapid hardening and bf loss @ this caloric load is, even for me, a bit unsettling.

  13. Yah that would be the anabolics, I can eat a lot more on cycle and get away with it, not 4k cals mind you.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  14. Good to see you rolling again big guy! Best wishes!
    Jeremiah 29:11-14

  15. SO you have essentially dried out in 5 days? More water intake, plus clean eating you think caused a diuretic like effect? because that is rapid....

    -Matt

  16. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    Good to see you rolling again big guy! Best wishes!
    Heyyy buddy, long time no see.
    Thanks for the wishes, and congrats on your rep position!

    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    SO you have essentially dried out in 5 days? More water intake, plus clean eating you think caused a diuretic like effect? because that is rapid....

    -Matt
    Indeed, you nailed it. I'm ~2gal h2o daily. I just never had this kind of diuretic effect happen concurrent at this cal intake.
    (actually, never had this kind of diuretic effect this rapidly at ANY cal intake, ha)
    My metabolism is on fire! But i see the point you were making, where weight should stabilize and I should be able to hold it while getting more and more shredded. My dreams of hitting low 3%bf (or lower) one time in my life may just happen here..


  17. Yea hitting that low of BF without looking emaciated is impossible without HORMONES. So I think you can get there, if your willing to dig that deep and not settle for " ehhh I am lean as hell, this will be enough." --- Just suffer and surpass anything you have previously done.

    -Matt

  18. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    Counting on the safety factor guys. Truly.
    I'm not the kind of individual who is short-sided and doesn't care about long-term effects, looking at only "today".
    I have confidence in Pp products, and their guidance.


    And a small update..

    To this point, I have been shocked by the rapid bodyfat loss I have experienced in the first 5 days. I took steps to eliminate some water weight last week leading up to the start of my cycle on SAT, and started that day weighing in @197.5lbs. This morning, I weighed in @192.7lbs. Diet has been steady @4k cals, and have trained every day.
    I had also started a fat-burner and TT-33 by iForce last week, figuring I'd prime the metabolism for the increased caloric load..I made the decision to drop those items yesterday. I simply do not believe I need them at this time. Rapid hardening and bf loss @ this caloric load is, even for me, a bit unsettling.
    same experience i had on AMv3. i did 8 weeks. gained muscle, sure. but lost alot of body fat
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    Heyyy buddy, long time no see.
    Thanks for the wishes, and congrats on your rep position!
    Yeah it's been a while! Thanks, it's teaching me to have a little more patience!
    Jeremiah 29:11-14

  20. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    Heyyy buddy, long time no see.
    Thanks for the wishes, and congrats on your rep position!



    Indeed, you nailed it. I'm ~2gal h2o daily. I just never had this kind of diuretic effect happen concurrent at this cal intake.
    (actually, never had this kind of diuretic effect this rapidly at ANY cal intake, ha)
    My metabolism is on fire! But i see the point you were making, where weight should stabilize and I should be able to hold it while getting more and more shredded. My dreams of hitting low 3%bf (or lower) one time in my life may just happen here..

    Ha, I couldn't imagine. I would feel like my skin is about to split at any second.
    Just inject.
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  21. Snagency! It's been a long time my friend. Sub'd btw : )
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  22. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Yea hitting that low of BF without looking emaciated is impossible without HORMONES. So I think you can get there, if your willing to dig that deep and not settle for " ehhh I am lean as hell, this will be enough." --- Just suffer and surpass anything you have previously done.

    -Matt
    Yep, every time I woud go below 6 or 7% the muscle would start to come off or so much water that I would look flat. With my loose skin and lower volume I find I like my look between 6-7% which is not low enough for competition. Age does that to you. I will ease down this summer and see what happens. I am retired from the stage now so don't have to go crazy ...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  23. @ Matt - suffer? I don't know if that's the right word. I've never looked at controlling diet parameters tightly as suffering, just a means to an end. But yeah - surpass anything I've ever done is the goal, of course.
    I will be disappointed if that is not the result.

    @ R1Balla - thx for that feedback, and as I'm looking thru some others feedback I'm seeing this is not an uncommon thing.
    (makes me feel better)

    @ lukehayd - trust me when I tell you, I totally understand the frustrations of being a rep.
    But learning a lil more patience is never a bad thing. Expands personal growth.

    @ HereToStudy - I love the feeling of carrying low bf. I think lowest I ever been (confirmed) was 4.2%..
    I'm out to obliterate that.

    @ rulk22 - Hey big guy! Long time for sure! Man it is so cool seeing you guys from yester-year drop in..
    Hope all is well with you, and thanks for your support!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yep, every time I woud go below 6 or 7% the muscle would start to come off or so much water that I would look flat. With my loose skin and lower volume I find I like my look between 6-7% which is not low enough for competition. Age does that to you. I will ease down this summer and see what happens. I am retired from the stage now so don't have to go crazy ...
    I think that's what was freaking me out a smidge too, seeing loose skin on me. Always correlated that with losing weight too fast, so therefore losing muscle weight as well. Not cool.
    I enjoy quick transformations, but there's a point to the "quickness" you do not want to exceed.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    I think that's what was freaking me out a smidge too, seeing loose skin on me. Always correlated that with losing weight too fast, so therefore losing muscle weight as well. Not cool.
    I enjoy quick transformations, but there's a point to the "quickness" you do not want to exceed.
    Yah even when I went extremely slow I got the same thing, I will go even slower this year and take it as it comes. I didn not go to high in weight this off season so that might have a positive effect as well. Age is the problem I think though. I am thinking surgery would be the only answer and I can't justify that.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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