Snagency Primordially shifts to V2.0, 16-week bodybuilding prep with Andro Series

[David Dunn]

Yah you're right .. forgot about that he did a bit back in 2004-5, similar story to mine as well, I didn't really understand that I had crossed the line back then briefly went back to natural for a while and decied to start up now that I am an old fugger....

DW, As a courtesy to PP and to snagency I have allowed him back to promote his PP product use and journal his contest preparation. The man has a past board persona that has been questionable at the least and is likely to experienc some 'scrutiny' at the very least. As much as I can appreciate your comradery, unless you are snagency's public realtions representative, snagency is a big boy and can speak for himself...no?

[DreamWeaver]

DW, As a courtesy to PP and to snagency I have allowed him back to promote his PP product use and journal his contest preparation. The man has a past board persona that has been questionable at the least and is likely to experienc some 'scrutiny' at the very least. As much as I can appreciate your comradery, unless you are snagency's public realtions representative, snagency is a big boy and can speak for himself...no?

I am sure he can... sorry I am unaware of what happened with him. It all happened so fast and I didn't see any controversy on the horizon. He was always such a board asset and then he was gone. I never remember him getting in arguements with anybody...

[MattPorter]

Really impressive physique for natural or NOT natural -- either way awesome!

Really looking forward to you getting in the mix again, with contest prep. Should be a force once you get into the midst of prep (6 weeks out).

It will be interesting to see if you find certain things easier or more difficult in years past, since every year our bodies could change on us and our metabolism and ability to get lean could be different from years past.

Keep us informed on all details....

How much cardio did you typically do in previous preps?

-Matt

[AZMIDLYF]

I have always been very impressed with Snag's year round state of condition.

[snagencyV2.0]

DW, As a courtesy to PP and to snagency I have allowed him back to promote his PP product use and journal his contest preparation. The man has a past board persona that has been questionable at the least and is likely to experienc some 'scrutiny' at the very least. As much as I can appreciate your comradery, unless you are snagency's public realtions representative, snagency is a big boy and can speak for himself...no?

And again, my thanks for the latitude David. As I've told you, I am appreciative.
Yes, I'm a big boy, and would love to answer things myself..I am an open book, and am not trying to dodge questions.
The ability to be able to post without censorship and delay would be tremendously valuable, in this log.

Really impressive physique for natural or NOT natural -- either way awesome!

Really looking forward to you getting in the mix again, with contest prep. Should be a force once you get into the midst of prep (6 weeks out).

It will be interesting to see if you find certain things easier or more difficult in years past, since every year our bodies could change on us and our metabolism and ability to get lean could be different from years past.

Keep us informed on all details....

How much cardio did you typically do in previous preps?

-Matt

Thank you Matt.
And, upon some definitions, I am decidedly NOT natural - if the definition is "have you EVER used a steroidal substance AT ANY TIME".
For my view, I do not attribute ANY of my development to the few hormonal products, in an isolated period of time, that I have tried.
In fact, any results I saw from those items, were temporary and fleeting. The base structure I have developed, was done long ago and without any "help" of exogenous hormones.
Will do on keeping up w/ details, no worries..and as for cardio, I typically do very little. My workout pace, and minimal rest between sets (with supersets/double-doubles/etc.), becomes my cardio. Further, I control my diet tightly.
When I do utilize cardio conditioning, I seek to play tennis. Other than that, it is minimal. In the final week of prep, I may bust out some sprints for seperation, but I am lucky I guess in that I don't need much cardio at all thruout prep to lose bodyfat.

I have always been very impressed with Snag's year round state of condition.

Thanks my friend. Staying decently conditioned year-round (again, MOST of the time in my 30s anyway ) has always been important to me.

[David Dunn]

And again, my thanks for the latitude David. As I've told you, I am appreciative.
Yes, I'm a big boy, and would love to answer things myself..I am an open book, and am not trying to dodge questions.
The ability to be able to post without censorship and delay would be tremendously valuable, in this log.

You and I are in agreement. As I stated, it appears to be related to a vB update that ownership recently made on the board. You are not being censored. Its relative to new member/post count and not an intentional action but likely to control spambots and the likes.

Additionally, I cannot control what your 'fans' have to say here on out. I have cleaned up a couple posts but the spirit and atmosphere in here will be entirely dependent upon your humilty and transparency. You can also ignore negativity. I know you of all people must be able to appreciate how much I have to tolerate when I am simply holding members accountable to adhere to board policies regarding their conduct here.

You're good.

[snagencyV2.0]

Very good David, and again my thanks. I did not understand what you meant by the vB update, and now do.
And yes, I can surely appreciate the banalities you must deal with daily..(would not want)
As far as negativity, I have absolutely no desire to engage.
My sole purpose here is to share my experience with these products. For those who wish to actively participate in thread, I will be totally forthcoming. For those who wish to indulge in bashing or instigation, i will ignore. It is quite that simple.

One thing I would like to say: for the few guys whose threads I had subscribed to (you know who you are, and my posts are no longer in your threads), it is not personal, or a lack of interest in your journey.. rather, I will be posting in this thread only going forward so as not to create any inadvertent controversy in your logs. I do wish you guys the best, and trust me when I say I will keep an eye on you from afar.

Now.......
Next updates coming this w/e. I am stoked.

[schizm]

Welcome back over Snag! I'll be following along...will be esp interesting if you do decide to toss in Mechabol

[MrKleen73]

Great Chest shot Snags. Doesn't look like you have missed a beat.

[AZMIDLYF]

I know it is way too early but, what weight do you hope to compete at?

[snagencyV2.0]

I know it is way too early but, what weight do you hope to compete at?

Wherever I fall in at, brother.
It makes me no difference. Gotta beat out all the classes to win the overall trophy anyway, right?

[snagencyV2.0]

Welcome back over Snag! I'll be following along...will be esp interesting if you do decide to toss in Mechabol

Welcome my friend, great to see you here.
Mechabol is a done deal, barring any unforseen developments.

Great Chest shot Snags. Doesn't look like you have missed a beat.

Thanks Chris. I don't feel quite the same myself..have lost some muscle mass in my time off.
I want my back to look like yours in your avi tho when I'm done.
Great shot yourself.

[NuclearLaunch]

In for this one man. 16 week oral cycle gonna be interesting, suppressive or not. Good luck man.

[snagencyV2.0]

In for this one man. 16 week oral cycle gonna be interesting, suppressive or not. Good luck man.

Welcome aboard, and thanks.
16 weeks seemed long to me too, but I'm trusting the safety of the Andro Series product.

[HereToStudy]

Welcome aboard, and thanks.
16 weeks seemed long to me too, but I'm trusting the safety of the Andro Series product.

They won't let you down

[DreamWeaver]

Welcome aboard, and thanks.
16 weeks seemed long to me too, but I'm trusting the safety of the Andro Series product.

I did 10 weeks of something similar last year and will be doing 12 weeks of 550xd and Epi-v starting late may. I like the idea of the longer run but you have to use the safer products. You should be ok.

[snagencyV2.0]

They won't let you down

I did 10 weeks of something similar last year and will be doing 12 weeks of 550xd and Epi-v starting late may. I like the idea of the longer run but you have to use the safer products. You should be ok.

Counting on the safety factor guys. Truly.
I'm not the kind of individual who is short-sided and doesn't care about long-term effects, looking at only "today".
I have confidence in Pp products, and their guidance.


And a small update..

To this point, I have been shocked by the rapid bodyfat loss I have experienced in the first 5 days. I took steps to eliminate some water weight last week leading up to the start of my cycle on SAT, and started that day weighing in @197.5lbs. This morning, I weighed in @192.7lbs. Diet has been steady @4k cals, and have trained every day.
I had also started a fat-burner and TT-33 by iForce last week, figuring I'd prime the metabolism for the increased caloric load..I made the decision to drop those items yesterday. I simply do not believe I need them at this time. Rapid hardening and bf loss @ this caloric load is, even for me, a bit unsettling.

[DreamWeaver]

Yah that would be the anabolics, I can eat a lot more on cycle and get away with it, not 4k cals mind you.

[lukehayd]

Good to see you rolling again big guy! Best wishes!

[MattPorter]

SO you have essentially dried out in 5 days? More water intake, plus clean eating you think caused a diuretic like effect? because that is rapid....

-Matt