Qs about AndroH and AndroD
- 01-28-2012, 08:20 AM
Qs about AndroH and AndroD
Hello folks, as in my name im a newbie here,
So i've been dieting running working out a lot and i just can't get the fat to go down soo i've come to the conclusion that imma need something to help me get it reduced.
And to say i'm 21 years old.
Bf approx 17% ( i know its a lot )
Weight -- > 210
Height --> 6'2
goal -- > six pack / currently a beer belly -.- sorta.
So i've been checking up on the forums etc and found out that AndroH should be good to tightend up and help fatloss and with a combo of Drive it should be some good results.
Buuut before i go out and become a bigspender i have a few question about the products.
I'm sure that these questions i'm about to ask have been asked before, and people are gonna get mad for a repost, and for that im sorry in advance.
Lets cut the to chase
So 1 i have a little bit of gyno, i used to be extremely overweight and had a good bf of 26% over the last fewyears of dropped that, but it has left some gyno, which i wanna get rid of.
1. Will Androhard really reduce the gyno? and will the results stay or disappear short time after?
2. Will Androhard of a 4 week cycle cause me impotence? (first time user for any sort of supplement)
3. Same goes for AndroDrive will it cause impotence?
4. Is there anyone out there that has done a combo of these to and have seen some good results? ( i've seen a guy logging hes, but he is only 3 weeks into it, and has been busy so not that i found hes log thaat helpful yet, but im sure it will in the future once he is done)
Hope that someone can help me out.
And thanks in advance for reading my post! and thanks for your time!
Newbi(e) the username Newbie was taken so gotta live with newbi
- 01-28-2012, 08:58 AM
Looks like you might have a long way to go before you are ready to begin using PHs. Really do your research so you know what you are putting in your body. Do you know what a PCT is? I have a feeling that you don't really have gyno either. Probably just fat behind your nipples. What does your diet look like? What do your workout routines look like?
01-28-2012, 09:54 AM
PCT, i'm assuming that you are talking about Post cycle therapy? which i've found to understand as taking supplements to level out what you did before the the PCT? or something towards that? not sure but what i've read thats the impression i have of it.
Whats the difference between gyno and fat behind your nipples?
I've uploaded a picture of the chest, could you categorize it with that?
Atm i'm not on a diet, my last diet was a diet i used to get down from 19-17bf% due to a project i was doing based on health and wellness.
So i'm going to plan a diet or if people can give me suggestion i'm up for it.
ps my weight is wrong up there, donno how i got it to 210 my weight is 245 lbs
I've been doing a 5split program for the past few months
Day 1: Chest
Cardio 10-15 mins running
Incline Bench press 3x8-10 160lbs
DB Bench press 3-4x8-10 60lbs each
DB Flyes 3 x 10-12 40lbs each ( i know there is a drop here)
Chest pullover 3x i cant anymore, then i decrease the weight and keep going, then i can barely do it anymore.
Finish off with some abs workout.
Day 2: Back
Wide grip pull-up 5x10 my own weight in this case.
Barbell row 3x8-10 180lbs
Straight Arm pulldown 3x12 160lbs
Shrugs 3x12-15 i normally start with 80 lbs and move upwords.
V-bar pulldown 180lbs
Finish off with some abs workout.
Day 3: Legs
Full squat 5 x 5 220lbs
Leg press 3 x 10 620lbs ( this might be a stupid number and people are thinking hell no, but its true)
Hamstring 3 x 5-8 Curl 200 lbs
Leg extensions 3 x 5-8 200 lbs
Standing Calf Raises 3 x 15 130 lbs
Day 4 resting
Day 5 Shoulder
Cardio 20 mins
Push press 5 x 5 120lbs
Upright Barbell Row 3 x 8-10 100 lbs
One-Arm Incline Lateral Raise 3 x 10 40 lbs
Front raise 3 x 12-15 40 lbs
Abs at the end
Day 6 Arms:
Preacher Curl 5 x 5 100 lbs
Skullcrusher 5 x 5 90 lbs
Dips 3 x 15 well own weight again
Day 7 Rest.
This is a typical workout week for me.
01-28-2012, 11:04 AM
I'm no expert on gyno, but that just looks like fat to me. Gyno is when actual breast tissue is present. PCT does in fact refer to Post Cycle therapy. Looks like you have a decent work out regimen. When I refer to diet, I am asking what do you generally eat? How many carbs, how much protein, types of food, daily calorie amounts, etc. Androhard and androdrive would be a good place to start for sure with prohormones. Don't know much about drive, but I have taken hard a few times and loved it. It is pretty mild. If you were to go on cycle, what would your goals be? Would you be cutting or would you aim for more of a recomp? Also, more stats would be helpful, How tall are you? How much do you weigh? How long have you been lifting? You have come to the right place to gather information. Hopefully a company rep will chime in too.
01-28-2012, 11:25 AM
My height is 6'2"
My weight is 245 lbs
I started working out and lifting when i was 18 and and was a lot over weight. So 3 years of lifting experience, but had an injury so had a 6 month lap back so.
My aim to be honest is cut, i want to loose the last fat and i wanna be cut and rip, yeah i know it sounds cheesy but goal would be to have a 6 pack, but thats a long way to go... but at the same time i wanna maintain some musclemass and muscles in general so you dont look entirely stupid.
Alright well my diet
1500-2000 cals a day
50 - 60 grams of fat
These are taken out of a diet i used to follow and still am following sortoff, thats why the range is a bit up and down.
I will be planning a new diet with lower stats.
Breakfast is normally oatmeal with milk and 50g of protein powder.
Lunch is usually fish, chicken or turkey depends on the mood. And somedays i might even get tempted to a pizza to share with the gf.
Dinner is normally some salat, chicken or something rich on proteins.
This is just in short.
01-28-2012, 04:39 PM
Looks like you are getting your calories from the right places. You are pretty low on calories for being at maintenance it seems. Are you losing strength at that amount? Anyways if you just want to cut I would go with 8 weeks of androhard and androlean together. I have never used lean but i hear pretty good things about it. The hard will be pretty good at preserving muscle and will help with leaning as well. Don't expect the pounds to just melt off of you tho. It's not magical. Just be patient and do everything right so you don't regret it down the line. Use primordials TRS for PCT. You should be fine. Hope I helped.
01-29-2012, 09:50 PM
Newbi, I think you would be better suited to run a longer cycle of AL/AD for now. When you are in a lower body fat, you will be able to better categorize your chest, which is probably not gyno. At that point, running Hard will suit you better.
02-02-2012, 07:43 PM
02-04-2012, 06:07 AM
Check out my log it might help. I also have a higher bf% but ur gonna need to push yourself a lot harder and try to get ur diet a lil better and more cardio .
02-04-2012, 06:11 AM
Lol I didn't read all the post. So if ur goal is to cut al and ad would be ur best bet. Ad and ah is good for a recomp
02-04-2012, 08:20 PM
02-05-2012, 11:50 PM
02-07-2012, 12:04 PM
I think anyone should be able to get to 15 or under naturally, and then add in a hormone. If that is really your diet then it has to work. Add in androlean for 8 weeks with any combo of drive or hard and you'd be well off to being cut
02-09-2012, 12:52 AM
02-09-2012, 01:21 AM
FoG you liked it eh? Perhaps I'll give it a go.Originally Posted by Force of Green
02-09-2012, 01:33 PM
02-09-2012, 11:32 PM
Glad to hear it bud!
02-28-2012, 04:39 AM
Hello guys, been on a holiday so haven't had a chance to reply.
So what the conclusion of this is that i should run a combo of AL and AD for a longer period?
In that case how much is a longer cycle?
Thanks for the replies btw!
Over the holidays i've adapted a new diet.
The diet is contained of a "Herbalife" diet.
Basicly i've replaced my breakfast / lunch with a nutrition-shake and i have some vitamin pills etc on the side. So atm i only get a protein bar or some fruit as mid meals and my dinner is normally chicken or turkey.
Atm my daily calorie intake is about 1400-1500 max, and i have lost some weight already.
But that doesn't mean i wouldn't wanna try out AL/AD cause i badly wanna get "slim" if you can say that.
Looking forward hearing for you all!
03-01-2012, 01:50 AM
Conservatively, 8-12 weeks is acceptable on the longer run. Not to say it cant be run for longer, but this really is the most we are looking at endorsing for now.
03-01-2012, 04:05 AM
Do you know, if the AndroLean is on stock atm?
i've tried to check the stock a few weeks back, and it said out of stock.
Just wondering, and if they are out, when can we expect to get them?
03-01-2012, 04:50 PM
When I get money or insurance, I am getting a full hormonal panel. I would like to see where I am at. All I know is that atheletically, I have not been in this kinda form as far as I can remember. I'm not concerned as much about physique, because it comes secondary to being stronger than I have ever been, faster sprinting than ever, and I have energy to spare at any time.
03-02-2012, 12:09 AM
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