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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla
    its killing me, no joke. im sooo tired and foggy all of the time. i got 10 (which is what i need to feel 100% great) hours of sleep last night and i feel like 6 hours. acne is getting worse as well.
    Feel like u r n a coma
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    For real. It sucks. I don't wanna do anything at all. I'm like on auto pilot all day then I wake up when I take lit up then wanna sleep after
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla
    For real. It sucks. I don't wanna do anything at all. I'm like on auto pilot all day then I wake up when I take lit up then wanna sleep after
    SAME THING HERE!
    exactly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    For real. It sucks. I don't wanna do anything at all. I'm like on auto pilot all day then I wake up when I take lit up then wanna sleep after
    Free test is a test booster right? I don't think it will help too much. I'd save it for PCT. Try upping caffeine intake throughout the day. I hope others chime in, since I usually don't get lethargic easily, so I have no experience in fighting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    For real. It sucks. I don't wanna do anything at all. I'm like on auto pilot all day then I wake up when I take lit up then wanna sleep after
    I hear when you are on strong androgens the lethargy comes from a down regulation of the thyroid. I took TT33 my entire 5 week of AHv2 and Mdrol and I didnt experience any lethargy. Cept the first week when I dropped ALL stims because I thought I might have high BP. But then I readjusted and was fine. I ran TT33 @ like 4-6 caps a day. something like shift/AT2 should work the same Id say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    Free test is a test booster right? I don't think it will help too much. I'd save it for PCT. Try upping caffeine intake throughout the day. I hope others chime in, since I usually don't get lethargic easily, so I have no experience in fighting it.
    I don't take any coffee or anything but I can try. And free test is like erase but has more 3,7 keto in it
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    Try adding in pregnenolone
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Try adding in pregnenolone
    Another good selection, or try and grab a bottle of Drive
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    Another good selection, or try and grab a bottle of Drive
    Or transaderm/ dermacrine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG View Post
    I think I found the sweet spot. I slept great last night and feel fine this morning. 3AD in the morning and 3AH a couple hours before bed. I'll give a few more days and then run a power test on the indoor cycle.
    I'm on week 2 of running AHv3 solo and am getting the lethargy too. For me, I noticed the lethargy wears off about 9-12 hours post morning dose. I tried it one time before sleep like you did and I felt way better. But I want to limit suppression as much as possible though (still taking it in the morning) so I been playing with caffeine timing. I find that if I take my AH in the morning (w/ no caffeine), I'm pretty lethargic by late morning/lunch time. Usually I drink a cup of coffee before work. But doing this with the AHv3 made me even more tired (caffeine wearing off and the AH lethargy kicking in I guess??)... So now I drink at most half a cup of coffee at breakfast (with the AH) and then one-half to a full cup of coffee in the late morning, which will carry me through late afternoon without feeling too bad. Then I lift after work. This is working for me so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic View Post
    AndroMass v2 only???? because I would think if you add derm to the mix it should help you with being lethargic.



    even androdrive would be good to stack with please correct me if I am wrong PP


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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic

    I guess folks do not read my post
    I started the original post

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    I just talked to Eric and it sounds like my idea of taking two seperate doses in the am and pm is not good. It doesn't give your hormones a chance to cycle and come back down. However taking AH before bed is ok. I'm going to try alternating days. 5 or 6 pills of AD around 4pm one day and 5 or 6 of the AH the next and see how that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG View Post
    I just talked to Eric and it sounds like my idea of taking two seperate doses in the am and pm is not good. It doesn't give your hormones a chance to cycle and come back down. However taking AH before bed is ok. I'm going to try alternating days. 5 or 6 pills of AD around 4pm one day and 5 or 6 of the AH the next and see how that goes.
    Well that sucks... I'm splitting AHV3 up twice a day and feeling great at the moment. I guess i'll try dosing before bed.
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    I've been sleeping longer and I feel alot better since being on amv3
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Another good selection, or try and grab a bottle of Drive
    I have the older version of Androlean right now, and the lethargy is hitting me hard. Would adding in drive help or any other supps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic

    you are taking Androdrive at night? if that is true then I am surprise you can sleep at all... I take androdrive at 5:30am 4 caps and I am crazy...

    Also I am taking Amv3 with out any sides too... I had an issue with Androhard v2 lethargy
    I'm with you Island, I'm suprised too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG

    I take all six at night including androdrive. Last night I took all at 7pm and slept great. Mornings suck though.
    Interesting...Androdrive at night??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG
    I just talked to Eric and it sounds like my idea of taking two seperate doses in the am and pm is not good. It doesn't give your hormones a chance to cycle and come back down. However taking AH before bed is ok. I'm going to try alternating days. 5 or 6 pills of AD around 4pm one day and 5 or 6 of the AH the next and see how that goes.
    Take all in morning to limit suppression
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    Androdrive definitely should help with lethargy 68.
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    Update: A 6pm dose of 5 caps alternating days 5 pills of AD around 6pm one day and 5 of the AH the next is working great. I weighed 202ish when I started AD/AH and maintained that until about 2 weeks ago. Today I'm at 195 and endurance performance it finally coming back up. I also added Gold Feast for some healthy calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG View Post
    Update: A 6pm dose of 5 caps alternating days 5 pills of AD around 6pm one day and 5 of the AH the next is working great. I weighed 202ish when I started AD/AH and maintained that until about 2 weeks ago. Today I'm at 195 and endurance performance it finally coming back up. I also added Gold Feast for some healthy calories.
    Awesome, glad to hear it. Let me know what you think of the gold as well.
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    I'm loving the Gold Feast. I just got in 7 tubs of it for family, friends and I. I was needing some extra calories so I made them some good ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG View Post
    I'm loving the Gold Feast. I just got in 7 tubs of it for family, friends and I. I was needing some extra calories so I made them some good ones.
    Nice, I will have to give it a try.
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    how about kicking in some sustain alpha? sustain does a great job of taking my lethargy away
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1
    how about kicking in some sustain alpha? sustain does a great job of taking my lethargy away
    Sustain is just a beast product period
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Sustain is just a beast product period
    I am doing my first run of the Topical version. Definitely a fan.
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    Just finished my first run of AD/AH for 8 weeks. I'm now taking Formula X (DAA), Titanium, D1 and Sustain Alpha.
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    Nice pct.
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