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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    matt, does PP have blood work on the androseries products before the use of PCT?
    I believe in this thread I posted some --PCT sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALopezJr View Post
    I just purchased Toco-8, do I just add this to week 9-12 with the Triazole/DAA/Sustain Alpha? Or how do you recommend running it with my setup:

    Week 1-7: AndroMass
    Week 8: AndroMass/DAA
    Week 9-12: Triazole/DAA/Sustain Alpha
    You could run toco-8 on cycle , off-cycle, etc... I would start using it the last week of being on cycle.

    I use it everyday regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    You could run toco-8 on cycle , off-cycle, etc... I would start using it the last week of being on cycle.

    I use it everyday regardless.

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    Thanks Matt,

    I guess this will be the final version:

    Week 1-7: AndroMass
    Week 8: AndroMass/DAA/Toco-8
    Week 9-12: Triazole/DAA/Sustain Alpha/Toco-8

    Thanks for everyone's help, Now I just need to get all of my orders in and finish my current cutting stack. New year resolution 10lbs of extra muscle.
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    So final run is:

    Week 1-7: AndroMass
    Week 8: AndroMass/DAA/Toco-8
    Week 9-12: Triazole/DAA/Sustain Alpha/Toco-8

    Other supplements I will be using:
    Pre-Workout - SuperPump Max
    Intra-Workout - SizeOn Max
    Multi-Vitamin - Anavite
    Protein - Trutien/Big Blend/Myofusion

    Workout Plan:
    Mon - Lift/Circuit/Cardio
    Tues - Lift
    Wed - Lift/Circuit/Cardio
    Thur - Lift
    Fri - Lift/Circuit/Cardio
    Sat - Lift
    Sun - Rest

    Mon-Fri I workout at 5am
    Sat workout is between Breakfast and Lunch around 10:30-11:00

    Anybody have any advice on dosing times for AndroMass (Pre or Post workout)

    Any recommendations on anything else?

    I will be logging all of my results in a new thread once I start this. Thanks for everyone's help so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    I believe in this thread I posted some --PCT sucks

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    that was a good thread. i was just speaking about pictures of papers from lab corp or something that shows the levels. no prob tho
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    Couldn't a person running 6 pills a day for 8 weeks take liquid nova for pct and call that good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cainb96
    Couldn't a person running 6 pills a day for 8 weeks take liquid nova for pct and call that good?
    I would think so
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    Never heard of liquid nova before
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Never heard of liquid nova before
    I am sure he meant Nolva
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I am sure he meant Nolva
    just givin him a hard time
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    just givin him a hard time
    Then carry on
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    NEWYEAR40 , NEWYEAR25 and NEWYEAR15 at checkout will save you on all products...

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    I have been wanting someone to dose TCf + Sustain Alpha before bed to further increase endogenous LH and FSH signaling while ON CYCLE to transition into an even easier PCT....

    Dose Andro in morning
    Dose TCF-1 , Sustain at night

    Keep all gains....

    Would get pricey to run sustain and tcf-1 after the cycle but could be well worth it.

    -Matt
    ill do it......kinda

    Cycle - 6 caps of AM for 4 weeks along with DAA at night, possibly SA LV or Free Test

    PCT - TCF 1, SA TD, Toco 8, and possibly IGF 2.


    is cycle assist suggested while taking AM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    ill do it......kinda

    Cycle - 6 caps of AM for 4 weeks along with DAA at night, possibly SA LV or Free Test

    PCT - TCF 1, SA TD, Toco 8, and possibly IGF 2.


    is cycle assist suggested while taking AM?
    I do not believe cycle assist is necessary with AndroMass. Superdrol, halodrol, ultradrol ---YES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    I do not believe cycle assist is necessary with AndroMass. Superdrol, halodrol, ultradrol ---YES.

    -Matt
    So once again I changed things up. I think this will be the final run:

    Week 1-8: AndroMass
    Week 9-12: Sustain Alpha/Toco-8/EndoAmp-Max/DAA

    Other supplements I will be using:
    Pre-Workout - SuperPump Max
    Intra-Workout - SizeOn Max
    Multi-Vitamin - Anavite
    Protein - Trutien/Big Blend

    Workout Plan:
    Mon - Lift/Circuit/Cardio
    Tues - Lift
    Wed - Lift/Circuit/Cardio
    Thur - Lift
    Fri - Lift/Circuit/Cardio
    Sat - Lift
    Sun - Rest

    Mon-Fri I workout at 5am
    Sat workout is between Breakfast and Lunch around 10:30-11:00

    Anybody have any advice on dosing times for AndroMass (Pre or Post workout), keep in mind I workout at 5am?
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    If running v2 AndroMass and you want to minimize suppression --- dose the AMv2 5 hours apart. 5-6 hours a part is perfect as blood hormone levels should rise - peak - fall perfectly just like we designed version 3 to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    If running v2 AndroMass and you want to minimize suppression --- dose the AMv2 5 hours apart. 5-6 hours a part is perfect as blood hormone levels should rise - peak - fall perfectly just like we designed version 3 to do.

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    I will be running v3, do you suggest the 6 caps Pre or Post workout, as I hit the gym at 5am?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALopezJr View Post
    I will be running v3, do you suggest the 6 caps Pre or Post workout, as I hit the gym at 5am?
    Pre-workout. What time do you go to bed?

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    so 6 caps pre workout. i usually work out in the evening/night. would this be an issue with keeping me up? i need all the sleep i can get for nursing school
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Pre-workout. What time do you go to bed?

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    I am normally in bed around 9pm. Evening is family time for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    so 6 caps pre workout. i usually work out in the evening/night. would this be an issue with keeping me up? i need all the sleep i can get for nursing school
    It would be recommended to still dose in the AM, as this is what allows the products to limit suppression.
    Just inject.
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    sounds good. just got off IGF 2 about 2 weeks ago so im going to take a little break before i get this show on the road
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    It would be recommended to still dose in the AM, as this is what allows the products to limit suppression.
    Unless u want suppression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    sounds good. just got off IGF 2 about 2 weeks ago so im going to take a little break before i get this show on the road
    I really do need to give that IGF2 stuff a try....
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    yeah, u do lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Unless u want suppression.
    Who in their right mind would want suppression lol!

    Trust me that does NOT equate to richer muscle gains...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    Who in their right mind would want suppression lol!

    Trust me that does NOT equate to richer muscle gains...

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    Most anabolics surpress you already as it is... So I'm thinking more test from the drugs so to speak and very little your body is making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Pre-workout. What time do you go to bed?

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    Matt,

    Thanks for all of your help so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Most anabolics surpress you already as it is... So I'm thinking more test from the drugs so to speak and very little your body is making.
    That would make PCT harder and more difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    That would make PCT harder and more difficult.
    Right that's 1 of the beautiful things about the andro series.
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    I think I am going to run Andromass with Anabeta on cycle then after do my suggested PCT. i think the gains would be insane with AM and AB
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    Got some packages in today, so far 1 bottle of AndroMass v3 and a Sustain Alpha. Still waiting for my 2nd bottle of AMv3, Toco-8, and EndoAmp-Max to get here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
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    I have been wanting someone to dose TCf + Sustain Alpha before bed to further increase endogenous LH and FSH signaling while ON CYCLE to transition into an even easier PCT....

    Dose Andro in morning
    Dose TCF-1 , Sustain at night

    Keep all gains....

    Would get pricey to run sustain and tcf-1 after the cycle but could be well worth it.

    -Matt
    Hmm interesting... You know.. I could use some topical Sustain at night to use during my 16 week V3 Androhard cycle that I just started. What's the coupon for free sustain? haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Triazole is an AI and not a sole PCT. Activate, although a bad ass product, is not something I would use in PCT.
    Yeah I have a bottle of Traizole laying around but it killed my libido when I took it. I think it really is a strong AI. My nuts were sore and ED became evident after two days of taking only 3 pills/day.
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    Im thinking I should have purchased bulk instead of mass. Pp website says results wise its the same but with less sides
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla
    Im thinking I should have purchased bulk instead of mass. Pp website says results wise its the same but with less sides
    I saw that too but mass gives u more aggression.
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    And prostate enlargement with frequent urination where bulk doesnt.
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    And I have a short temper as it is. I may just sell it, buy my pct and bulk
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla
    And I have a short temper as it is. I may just sell it, buy my pct and bulk
    Sell v3 mass?
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    if i choose to go with bulk, yes....so i will have money to buy my pct and put money towards bulk
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla
    if i choose to go with bulk, yes....so i will have money to buy my pct and put money towards bulk
    Keep me posted
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