help creating a stack with andro products
- 11-28-2011, 09:57 AM
help creating a stack with andro products
1 x AndroHard
1 x AndroLean
2 x AndroDrive
also have havoc epistane
was thinking of doing
for a cut/recomp around April/may to be ready for summer.
but I would love to use my epistane up, what would be the best way to utilize the andro series products to do this? does AH act like a test base for epistane allowing little to no side effects?
was thinking of doing two cycles
or should I just go big or go home and do all the products together except the 2n bottle of AD
so it would look like this:
or possibly turn this epistane into a pulse at 3x a week. I don't care about high dosing epi just wanna get some benefit from it, plus I know the grapefruit can help increase epistanes efficiency
- 11-28-2011, 07:20 PM
Okay I've done a little more research and found that stacking epi with AH will be very dry on me and can be bad on my joints. So i think stacking epi with AL will be a better choice.
So maybe a cycle like this would be better:
Epi 10/10/0/0/10/10/0/0 ???? or Epi at 10/10/10/10
and then another cycle saved for later would be
AH and AD
I have a bottle of C.E.L 11-Sterone which has 75 pills of 75mg 11-oxo and if i can use this alongside the epi/AL/AD cycle I'd be super happy lol.
I also have some superdrol but prefer to never use it again because of risk of sides even though I have never experienced anything serious yet from epi or sd.
Remember my goal is to use the AL to get as cut and shredded as possible, if a different dosing protocol would be better I am willing to try it.
I originally thought to use just 3 of the androseries products in one cycle but since I have other **** I can use I would like to get rid of that as well.
IF this would work as a cycle with minimal sides let me know:
This would save me 4 weeks worth of AH at 3x pills a day and i would still have a full bottle of AD.
????? I don't know for sure what I'm going to do. right now I am on a pulse of Epistane that last 6 weeks with a PCT of 6weeks.
What would my PCT look like for the above said cycles? What would be the least suppressive and damaging of cycles but with some pretty looking results. I'm all about looking good not getting huge/strong, but those are the perks of getting jacked
11-28-2011, 07:33 PM
11-28-2011, 11:38 PM
Wow man, reading that was like listening to you have a discussion with yourself.
You seem to have different goals for this cycle that become evident in some of your possible choices.
You want the least suppressive, or want to experience the least side effects?
I would run the 3 andro products together.
You want a bit more size in that recomp?
I would run the AL/Epi/Drive. Up the dosage on the epi though, that is rather low ime.
Ultimately the AndroHard will go along way towards a recomp, but if you are concerned about dryness between the two of them (which is certainly a possibility) then you can start with it low dosed.
11-29-2011, 01:12 AM
sorry about that I'm trying to give as much information about it as possible so I can make it the right way completely.Originally Posted by HereToStudy
I would prefer the least suppressive so pct will be easy.
I have different goals because I might run two cycles, first for strengthening and the second for a recomp/cut for summer.
so if I decide to run the AL/Epi/AD stack in April and the AH/AD in February this is what they will look like.
EPI 10/10/20/20/0/0 or higher depending on results.
what do you think of this? I have a LONG time until I run either of these cycles.
so epistane in the stack instead of androhard will give me more size gains? what would my expect results be with epi and then what about with androhard? I know it varies.
my main goal for the stack with the lean in it is to get as cut and shredded as possible and to stay the same weight. if running all andro products the same time would be better for this then that is what I will do. I will have a full bottle of drive leftover, what would this be able to be use with? or can it be solo dolo.
thanks for all the help so far
11-30-2011, 12:26 AM
11-30-2011, 10:37 PM
11-30-2011, 11:22 PM
12-01-2011, 12:21 AM
thanks for the advice man, will the ah/ad need a SERM? or it low dosed? otherwise will trs cover it?Originally Posted by HereToStudy
12-01-2011, 05:45 PM
12-01-2011, 11:41 PM
12-02-2011, 08:44 AM
Yeah I looked at it, skimmed it really and the first thing I say is that looks like too many things...Originally Posted by Austinmck17
Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.
12-02-2011, 09:17 AM
thanks for the help guys ! the ah/ad stack will be run around February and I can't wait to run it to let everyone know how it is! I definetly wanna get stronger with it and lose maybe 1-2% body fat and maintain the same weight around 180. I'm currently 174 and climbing slowly. I have a bottle of 11-oxo on hand and I wanna get rid of it, should I sell it? or can I use it in low dose for cortisol control in the ah/ad cycle, no need it for gains when I got ah. or can I use it after the cycle for bridge to pct. I can't really find any use for it and don't want to let it go to waste.
also decided that since I have never taken andro drive before im gonna stick to 3caps at first to get the feel for it and then I'm gonna go up as I see fit.
12-03-2011, 12:34 PM
12-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Mid December I am doing
Pct will be
This is my first run of anything hormonal. I plan to kill it in the gym and see what happens. I look forward to your results as well.
12-03-2011, 02:48 PM
12-04-2011, 10:28 PM
12-04-2011, 10:50 PM
will do if I'm not busy with classes around that time. was wondering of 11-oxo can be used in low dose talking like 150 or 225mg during the ah/ad cycle for cortisol control
12-06-2011, 01:21 AM
12-06-2011, 01:49 AM
12-06-2011, 01:51 AM
I'm planing on doing this same stack . Hope it goes good for u. I don't think u will need the 11 oxo ..
12-07-2011, 12:27 AM
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