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    Question ANDRO mass ?? PCT Question.....


    Looking at running an ANDRO mass cycle. Debating on going with 4 a day for 42 days. At a lower dose will Clomid be required or will a good testosterone stack be plenty (Something like topical TRS stack with Diesel Test Pro / Diesel Test Hardcore)? Will also be running a support supplement for cholesterol and blood pressure support (looking at CEL Cycle Assist, although not fond of the Milk Thistle in it). Also will be taking Omega-3 and Salmon Oil.

    Was told that @ 4 a day for 6 weeks that the TRS would be sufficient ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by svtfocusman View Post
    Looking at running an ANDRO mass cycle. Debating on going with 4 a day for 42 days. At a lower dose will Clomid be required or will a good testosterone stack be plenty (Something like topical TRS stack with Diesel Test Pro / Diesel Test Hardcore)? Will also be running a support supplement for cholesterol and blood pressure support (looking at CEL Cycle Assist, although not fond of the Milk Thistle in it). Also will be taking Omega-3 and Salmon Oil.

    Was told that @ 4 a day for 6 weeks that the TRS would be sufficient ??
    Eric has stated that the TRS is sufficient for this cycle.

    Personally I would go for a SERM, but it comes down to what you are comfortable with after researching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Eric has stated that the TRS is sufficient for this cycle.

    Personally I would go for a SERM, but it comes down to what you are comfortable with after researching.
    I agree with HTS here

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanL337 View Post
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    Did you have a further question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Did you have a further question?
    I have 1. Which SERM would you recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackceo88 View Post
    I have 1. Which SERM would you recommend?
    I'm not HTS, but Toremifene is the best choice for a SERM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I'm not HTS, but Toremifene is the best choice for a SERM
    Correct. The only reason i won't be using Torem is due to have Clomid on hand alreayd, but my future orders will always be for Torem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Correct. The only reason i won't be using Torem is due to have Clomid on hand alreayd, but my future orders will always be for Torem.
    Why Torem over clomid or nolva?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJohnson7385 View Post
    Why Torem over clomid or nolva?
    Torem is better for HDL elevation and reduction of triglycerides.
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    always go with clomid or torem and use the otc 3-4 weeks in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    always go with clomid or torem and use the otc 3-4 weeks in.
    Why would you recommend holding off on the OTC?
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    starting an OTC AI or something like Activate Xtreme 3-4 weeks in is better?

    I know your company is in love with there OTC stack and start it day 1 or pct so spare me
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    Clomid for HTPA FTW !!! lightttt weight babeeee oooooooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    starting an OTC AI or something like Activate Xtreme 3-4 weeks in is better?

    I know your company is in love with there OTC stack and start it day 1 or pct so spare me
    Not all OTC PCTs are AIs. I don't make any statements that I don't personally believe in, so I will ignore the spare me comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    starting an OTC AI or something like Activate Xtreme 3-4 weeks in is better?

    I know your company is in love with there OTC stack and start it day 1 or pct so spare me
    When is it better to use test boosters/cortisol control, during a time when you are producing few androgens or when you're producing more? The answer is pretty clear.
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    So are you saying the 5345345 people on here starting there OTC products a few weeks in after clomid,torem, nolva have been doing it wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    So are you saying the 5345345 people on here starting there OTC products a few weeks in after clomid,torem, nolva have been doing it wrong?
    Are you claiming the 5436234 people who do the opposite are wrong? There are differences in opinion, I asked you to explain yours.
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    I would do a testbooster like DAA early in PCT. but products like testo pro and activate is better down the road in PCT. I wouldnt run an AI during something like nolvadex until you dropped the dose.

    The company you rep for, there stack looks like you run it right away but not everyone runs that pretty pricey stack so go with cheaper AI's and boosters usually about 3 weeks in. it was just a common protocol used. nothing against OTC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    I would do a testbooster like DAA early in PCT. but products like testo pro and activate is better down the road in PCT. I wouldnt run an AI during something like nolvadex until you dropped the dose.

    The company you rep for, there stack looks like you run it right away but not everyone runs that pretty pricey stack so go with cheaper AI's and boosters usually about 3 weeks in. it was just a common protocol used. nothing against OTC.
    Fair enough. See I don't really attack people's opinions, i just like to understand where they are coming from.
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