PP Mass and Strength

[Hustlers]

I'm new to this forum but not PHs/AAS as far as research goes.
However I want to be more open minded and I'm trying to take the time to look into each company listed.

The question I would like people to answer is:
What is the best product/stack from this company for someone who wants to add mass and strength, and what would be the proper pct and/or support supps?

Basically what does this company have to offer?

If you take the time to answer this thank you. I understand I'm gonna get responses like read the forum etc etc, but I'm trying to do this quickly and efficiently.

Thanks in advance

 

[Rosie Chee]

I'm new to this forum but not PHs/AAS as far as research goes.
However I want to be more open minded and I'm trying to take the time to look into each company listed.

The question I would like people to answer is:
What is the best product/stack from this company for someone who wants to add mass and strength, and what would be the proper pct and/or support supps?

Basically what does this company have to offer?

If you take the time to answer this thank you. I understand I'm gonna get responses like read the forum etc etc, but I'm trying to do this quickly and efficiently.

Thanks in advance

If you want mass and strength, then Primordial no longer has hormonals that would aid in this - the ones we have are aimed more at cutting or recomping.

You could use a natural stack though, like Phyto-Testosterone and Sustain Alpha. An 8-week stack of this would give you decent results.

Remember that if you want gains, then you need to eat enough for them, and no supplement - hormonal or not - is going to help you gain muscle if you're not eating for it, period!

You also have to be training correctly for mass - check out the article How To Maximize Mass Through Weights And Adaptation for an idea of how to train correctly for mass. And although The Essential 8 is in the fat loss section, the same exercises that are best for fat loss are also the best for gaining muscle!

Re hormonals, if you go with something else, alongside creatine, multivitamin, antioxidant, good fats, and protein, the following are recommended during hormonal cycles:

Milk Thistle (liver) ONLY IF METHYLATED COMPOUNDS
600-1000 mg/day (spread over 2 doses)
Dose 1 - 300-500 mg first thing in the morning
Dose 2 - 300-500 mg 8-10 hours post-Dose 1

Hawthorne Berry (blood pressure/cholesterol)
3g/day (with meals, spread over 3 doses)
Dose 1 - 1g with breakfast
Dose 2- 1g with lunch
Dose 3 - 1g with dinner

Garlic (blood pressure/cholesterol)
600-700 mg/day (with meals, spread over 2 doses)
Dose 1 - 300-350mg with breakfast
Dose 2 - 300-350mg with lunch

Taurine (back pumps/hydration/headaches)
5-10g/day
Dose 1 - 5g first thing in the morning
Dose 2 - 5g 40-min pre-training

Potassium (cramps/back pumps/hydration/headaches)

You need to make sure you have a good PCT as well - and have it ready BEFORE you start your cycle.

PCT should promote lutelizing hormone elevation through several different method of actions, keep estrogen levels very low through both inhibiting aromatization and antagonizing, increasing free testosterone levels, antagonizing glucocorticoids and cytokines, and increasing spermatogenesis and endogenous testosterone production. The key during PCT is to keep carnitine levels stable, keep estrogen at bay, lower cortisol, and to stimulate lutelizing hormone release, which will all work together to bring up testosterone levels.

Although dependent on the hormonal compound/s used, the bulk of PCT should include each of the following products alongside your basic staples:

* Testosterone Boosters (one product that increase Free Testosterone and Total Testosterone or a stack covering both areas)
* Luteinizing Hormone Releaser
* Cortisol Controller
* Estrogen Antagonists/Aromatase Inhibitor (SERMS are not always a necessity for PCT, and in fact, should only be carefully considered, depending on the compound/s used).

~Rosie~

 

[ryansm]

Great post Rosie, I will add that our AndroSeries line is coming very soon, and will parlay very impressive gains in mass and strength.

http://www.primordialperformance.com/discussion/primordial-health/4273-future-primordial-performance.html

 

[Rosie Chee]

Great post Rosie, I will add that our AndroSeries line is coming very soon, and will parlay very impressive gains in mass and strength.

Thanks, Ryan

Yes, the AndroSeries is something to definitely look forward to - you could make some great mass and strength stacks from them.

~Rosie~

 

[Resolve]

Great post Rosie, I will add that our AndroSeries line is coming very soon, and will parlay very impressive gains in mass and strength.

http://www.primordialperformance.com/discussion/primordial-health/4273-future-primordial-performance.html

In addition to the Androseries, which is fortcoming as mentioned, it's still quite possible to find our other Phs from private members of the online community.

OP, check out the trade/sell sections of various boards (try our home board at primordialperformance.com for instance) and look around for some 1-T, Turinabol or Superdrone.

 

[Hustlers]

Rosie thank you very much for your detailed post I understand you're just looking out for newbs who jump right into cycles. That simply isn't my case. It's a great write up and solid info.
But you're preaching to the choir I assure you I'm in check to cycle.
@Ryan
As far as Rosie saying that PP has closed all their PH's, where does the Androseries sit then? Aren't they PH's in R&D?

Again awesome post

 

[Rosie Chee]

Rosie thank you very much for your detailed post I understand you're just looking out for newbs who jump right into cycles. That simply isn't my case. It's a great write up and solid info.
But you're preaching to the choir I assure you I'm in check to cycle.
@Ryan
As far as Rosie saying that PP has closed all their PH's, where does the Androseries sit then? Aren't they PH's in R&D?

Again awesome post

No worries

Yes, we have discontinued our current hormonal line-up. The AndroSeries is something else altogether, although hormonal in nature.

~Rosie~

 

[ryansm]

Yes, however they will be DSHEA compliant meaning they are not going to get banned. They will also be very low in sides i.e. liver. And the coolest thing is gains that from what I know of the compounds should surpass many if not all of the current popular orals.

 

[BurghHardcore]

I have two bottles of Turinabol LV if interested. I'd be willing to part with them at a price I feel is fair. I'm not going to overcharge just b/c the product is discontinued, but I won't be selling myself short either.