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1-T and hair loss risk

BurghHardcore

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Hello all. I found a place to pick up some 1T-LV. I have REALLY been wanting to try this out, but have been worried about potential hair loss issues. As of right now my hairline is slightly receded, mostly just on the sides above the temple. Now I know you can get your hair genes from either side of the family. My dad has the halo effect (bald on top, hair around the sides) his father had the same thing. My mothers side of the family the men all have basically what I have now, just obviously a tiny bit more advanced as they are all much older than me. As of right now, I'm 28yo, it would seem I have my mothers side of the family genes when it comes to that. I don't want to play with fire though.

I would be expecting some shedding while on cycle, but really don't want to mess with anything that could cause something permanent. What are your thoughts/opinions on this? Should I stay away? I would obviously be taking Toco-8 before/during/after. Anything else that would block 5-AR at the scalp only?
 
BurghHardcore said:
Hello all. I found a place to pick up some 1T-LV. I have REALLY been wanting to try this out, but have been worried about potential hair loss issues. As of right now my hairline is slightly receded, mostly just on the sides above the temple. Now I know you can get your hair genes from either side of the family. My dad has the halo effect (bald on top, hair around the sides) his father had the same thing. My mothers side of the family the men all have basically what I have now, just obviously a tiny bit more advanced as they are all much older than me. As of right now, I'm 28yo, it would seem I have my mothers side of the family genes when it comes to that. I don't want to play with fire though.

I would be expecting some shedding while on cycle, but really don't want to mess with anything that could cause something permanent. What are your thoughts/opinions on this? Should I stay away? I would obviously be taking Toco-8 before/during/after. Anything else that would block 5-AR at the scalp only?
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im not sure whether i lost hair on my cycle of 1-t Tren......and i attribute it to the 1-t in it.....but my hairs quality just looked poor. I was however not taking Toco 8. I would advise to include toco 8 in your daily regimen.
 
Thanks WIU...I ran a cycle of the original 1-AD way back in the day. Probably 7 years ago. I can't remember when my hair started to recede, but I honestly think that probably had something to do with it. Or at the very least getting the ball rolling. I think for the sake of my hairline I will stay away from it, which is a shame b/c I remember having great results with 1-AD. Guess I'll have to stick with my two new bottles of Turinabol-LV lol
 
BurghHardcore said:
Hello all. I found a place to pick up some 1T-LV. I have REALLY been wanting to try this out, but have been worried about potential hair loss issues. As of right now my hairline is slightly receded, mostly just on the sides above the temple. Now I know you can get your hair genes from either side of the family. My dad has the halo effect (bald on top, hair around the sides) his father had the same thing. My mothers side of the family the men all have basically what I have now, just obviously a tiny bit more advanced as they are all much older than me. As of right now, I'm 28yo, it would seem I have my mothers side of the family genes when it comes to that. I don't want to play with fire though.

I would be expecting some shedding while on cycle, but really don't want to mess with anything that could cause something permanent. What are your thoughts/opinions on this? Should I stay away? I would obviously be taking Toco-8 before/during/after. Anything else that would block 5-AR at the scalp only?
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If you want to cancel out any DHT conversion than use Saw palmetto, Pumpkin Seed Oil, etc. Saw Palmetto and Pumpkin Seed Oil basically render DHT useless. An additional effect you get from Pumpkin Seed Oil though is that it has anti-aromatase properties...so while it may cancel out DHT it will also help limit estrogen, but as to how much that is the question. More studies need to be done on the anti-aromatase activity of PSE.

Also, running Toco-8 is a smart decision as well...in essence, with toco-8 your hairline will thank you. ;)

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
SamBoz19 said:
If you want to cancel out any DHT conversion than use Saw palmetto, Pumpkin Seed Oil, etc. Saw Palmetto and Pumpkin Seed Oil basically render DHT useless. An additional effect you get from Pumpkin Seed Oil though is that it has anti-aromatase properties...so while it may cancel out DHT it will also help limit estrogen, but as to how much that is the question. More studies need to be done on the anti-aromatase activity of PSE.

Also, running Toco-8 is a smart decision as well...in essence, with toco-8 your hairline will thank you. ;)

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
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Thanks SamBoz. If I picked it up I would def. use some Saw Palmetto while on, this is the first I'm hearing of PSO. After some reading it seems as though both Saw Palmetto and PSO block DHT conversion systemically. Now we really don't want that do we? Yes it would help with hair issues, but wouldn't our drive, libido, and muscle building potential take a hit as well? Seeing as how much more anabolic DHT is than testosterone. Am I wrong?

I got a reply over on the PP forum as well (thanks for hitting me up there too Sam). A brother recommended some Nizoral 2% shampoo. I think what I'm going to do is hit that shampoo up, continue with my Toco-8, stay away from the DHT derived PH/PS and rock the hell out of my Turinabol lol. I do have two cycles worth of Dermacrine....but that has Preg in it to stop 5-ar at the scalp, and I'll be stacking the Derm w/ Formestane (lowers DHT) as well. Also taking the Toco-8 of course.

thanks for the replies guys. It's appreciated.
 
BurghHardcore said:
Thanks SamBoz. If I picked it up I would def. use some Saw Palmetto while on, this is the first I'm hearing of PSO. After some reading it seems as though both Saw Palmetto and PSO block DHT conversion systemically. Now we really don't want that do we? Yes it would help with hair issues, but wouldn't our drive, libido, and muscle building potential take a hit as well? Seeing as how much more anabolic DHT is than testosterone. Am I wrong?

I got a reply over on the PP forum as well (thanks for hitting me up there too Sam). A brother recommended some Nizoral 2% shampoo. I think what I'm going to do is hit that shampoo up, continue with my Toco-8, stay away from the DHT derived PH/PS and rock the hell out of my Turinabol lol. I do have two cycles worth of Dermacrine....but that has Preg in it to stop 5-ar at the scalp, and I'll be stacking the Derm w/ Formestane (lowers DHT) as well. Also taking the Toco-8 of course.

thanks for the replies guys. It's appreciated.
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Anabolic...no. You mean androgenic. Your drive, libido may or may not be affected...everyone responds differently. As for muscle building potential...you wouldn't have to worry about that as much unless you were directly taking a DHT derived compound.

Additionally, there are other ways to keep your drive and libido up if you have to go a different avenue because of DHT working against you due to you being prone to MPB. ;)

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
SamBoz19 said:
Anabolic...no. You mean androgenic. Your drive, libido may or may not be affected...everyone responds differently. As for muscle building potential...you wouldn't have to worry about that as much unless you were directly taking a DHT derived compound.

Additionally, there are other ways to keep your drive and libido up if you have to go a different avenue because of DHT working against you due to you being prone to MPB. ;)

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
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I've been doing some heavy reading today. Coming across a few different things. There are always things you can take to counteract the drive and libido, but for some reason I just didn't think that systemic DHT reducers were necessarily a good thing. I was going to run some sustain like every 3 days while on (that is if I do end up purchasing the cycle) to help with libido/shutdown. Guess I could run some adaptogens on cycle to help with any energy. 1-T is just so attractive b/c of low toxicity and low sides that it sort of REALLY makes me want to give it a go.
 
I never had an issue but i would advise to include toco 8 in your daily supp program to help out with hair strangt, pluse its good for you so.
also with it Saw Palmetto from puritans is good to help DHT issues.
 
Why don't you try topical spirolactone and nizoral shampoo. Both work locally in synergy to eliminate the effect of androgens.
 
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