dermacrine, formestane, sarms. dymethazine, hcg. please critique

[greekgeorge]

I am 23 looking to lean bulk with anabolic diet which is your weight time 26 for total calories. I know dymethazine is a glycogen storer but I think the sure volume/calories and protein will be helpful in aiding weight gain. Goal to put on a keepable 15 pounds.

MY clcye will be dermacrine lv for 8 weeks total.
sarms s4 4 weeks before cycle and four weeks after cycle.
dzine for four weeks
formestane and hcg

add d zine week 4 at 30 mg
add 250iu hcg once every four days starting week four? or should I start it earlier?
week- 5 -30mg
week-6-45
week-7-45
week-8-30
weeks 4-8 50 mg formex with dzine could take more formex if nedded?

pct
nolvadex- 30/20/20/10 and maybe another week of ten
will be tapering liquid formestane throughout- unsure of this dose in pct please help? and first two weeks of pct two more shots of hcg one each week. once form is tapered down to every other day I will switch to 6oxo, bioforge,activate extreme, lean extreme, testopro, l dopa powder, krealk, glycocarn, sustain alpha. and testosterone recovery stack as directed with serm.

Lots of products in there. Can someone critique me?

 

[corsaking]

23 your overloading your body and throwing your endocrine system into chaos Your not going to know what working and whats not.6 oxo;testpro;sustain alpha ;activate extreme why so many test boosters?

where you got this plan from -you made it up?

how long you been training?At 5 ft 8 177ilbs all you need is food -good quality food

doesnt HCG stop the testicles shutting down?and your taking test boosters as well.

i think personally youve pressed the panic button and got yourself just about everything to cover yourself

 

[greekgeorge]

I don't believe in being over ten percent body fat. How much weight can you possibly put on without doing so and needing to cut. This takes a longtime.Plus at 23 time is running out for size. Its time to cheat. I'm American we don't wait! IF i could afford to eat 400 dollars a week in flounder and spinach Id do so. But as I am a middle class boy these steroids will take full advantage of the calories i can eat. I will eat up to 5000 per day in mainly ground beef. this is a cheap diet for a cheap bodybuilder. I can certainly save a few hundred over a few months as Ive done for a cycle.

 

[greekgeorge]

Yeah I did get myself everything after I hit that button. Steroids are something to be scared of as well as admired like most drugs.

 

[greekgeorge]

Been training seriously for three years but a total of five years. I track every calorie. I practice german volume training. and will try advanced german volume training on cycle

 

[greekgeorge]

And MY pct is overkill for two reasons. One If you can continue to grow or keep all of your gains messing up your body will have been more worth it. Id rather be broke. Two perhaps my **** wont be so dead if I take each base. That really destroys my motivation in life makes me depressed and so forth. Im mean I been thinking about throwing cabergoline and cialis in there. Why not dump my paycheck into this. Thats what all drug addicted people do.

 

[greekgeorge]

Either way can someone help me out. I mean I have seen so many logs about hdrol giving gyno and every designer steroid or prohormone doing so. So why waist your time with weak things. For me as a starter my choices are betweeen this and straight test e. But I have heard this is stronger and only being on it four weeks seems light. Dermacrine is a joke of a prohormone. All testboosters suck taking them in pct or in general is for ****s and giggles acne, and for your mind/boner connection. Accrding to eric on primordial hcg should be taken with sustain alpha on eight week cycles to less hpta damage. Sarms are neutral taking it should have no ill efeect on cycle. To me this seems light. Can anyone suggest something into the cycle

 

[flightposite]

no offense bro but you really just need to simplify. you asked for advice so heres mine.

cycle
sarm 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8wks 8wks total
dermacrine 3,4,5,6,7,8wks 6wks total
dzine 6,7,8wks 3wks total
formex however you want.

PCT
nolva 20,20,10,10,10
sustain alpha
toco-8
endo amp
testpro or whatever natty test booster you choose. (i would choose TCF-1.)

 

[greekgeorge]

thanks for the reply. My only conjecture is that taking the sarm on cycle would make compounds compete for receptors instead of takeover receptors.

 

[greekgeorge]

anyone else? no offense to anyone I just want to hear multiple opinions

 

[greekgeorge]

also if I did the above proposed cycle would you be on 45 mg per day?

 

[greekgeorge]

And Since I have hcg shoudnt I use it. I mean it was free and legitamate as its perscription of my fathers

 

[greekgeorge]

If calories are right flightposite what do you think gains would be? Im shooting for a keepable 13-15

 

[Otto Skorzeny]

I don't think that you can "lean bulk" with that type of caloric intake - at your size. But I'm one of those guys who believes that all the ranting about total calories has gotten out of hand when it comes to gaining muscle. You will gain fat even if you employ a ph/ds as an "ergogenic" aid. I like flightposite's advice on how to run a cycle, but I'd probably run the d-zine for 4 weeks instead of 3.

 

[greekgeorge]

I am eating 3100 calories per day and loosing weight due to it being low carb at 30 or less per day. On cycle I would go up to 100 per day I am a carb sensitive individual. Remember this diet im using is ketogenic so eating and the increase to 5000 calories per day will happen gradually. I have gone from 181 to 170 currently at 9 percent bodyfat. I will switch to a bulking diet once d zine is in the mix to take advantage of the glycogen enhancement. I know i will be tired.

 

[greekgeorge]

my body will be primed to put this weight on

 

[greekgeorge]

but whats your suggestion for caloric intake?

 

[flightposite]

also if I did the above proposed cycle would you be on 45 mg per day?

for the D-zine? yes but i would feel it out first. i would start at 30mg a day and then if you felt the need bump it to 45mg.

 

[flightposite]

And Since I have hcg shoudnt I use it. I mean it was free and legitamate as its perscription of my fathers

if its free then its up to you. i personally think that if you run the cycle i layed out and follow it with the pct i suggested then you will recover just fine. so i would save it for next time. but if you want to use it it wont hurt.

If calories are right flightposite what do you think gains would be? Im shooting for a keepable 13-15

i think 10-15 are obtainable goals if and thats a big if diet is good.

thanks for the reply. My only conjecture is that taking the sarm on cycle would make compounds compete for receptors instead of takeover receptors.

it would act somewhat like a test base which is what dermacrine is for but you could use both. i wouldnt run it during my pct.

 

[greekgeorge]

ok il save it than for a harsher cycle. Do you think that using the anabolic diet until the four weeks of dzine is a decent strategy? and thanks for all your help

 

[flightposite]

ok il save it than for a harsher cycle. Do you think that using the anabolic diet until the four weeks of dzine is a decent strategy? and thanks for all your help

yes i like the anabolic diet but make sure you take in plenty of good carbs while on dzine otherwise youl feel like walking death. the dermacrine should help with the sides from dzine but still definitely make sure your getting plenty of carb. and im glad i could help let us know how it goes.

 

[greekgeorge]

will do log in 4 weeks as long as funds and serm arrives. with pics. girlfriend is a photographer so i will have pics and measurements.