Primordial Performance's Liver Juice with Bloodwork!

[bulldogz]

First off, shout out to Primordial Performance and Jim aka Jimbo15 from PP for the opportunity to log their Liver Juice

I had the opportunity to try out Primordial Performance's liver juice and get bloodwork at the same time. I also wanted to mention my recent cycle consisted of AX Phera / AX Superdrol for 5 weeks, bridged at the 3rd week. The cycle started on 11/15/09 and my last dose was on 12/19/09. My cycle before this was back in late 2006 into 2007, it consisted of the same exact compounds and same outline.

I’ve attached a few PDF files (bloodwork) on the bottom of this post as reference to show my liver values since mid February 2009. I did take Fish Oil, L-Carnitine, CoQ10, BCAA, Multi Vit, Whey, EC x 3 ed back in late August 2009 for about 1 month, but I highly doubt these did anything to effect my liver values. The milk thistle I was running was bought at Walmart and it was the Spring Valley Milk Thistle at 1000mg per cap. I was taking 2 caps of milk thistle everyday right before bed, 2g total per day.

Lastly, it took me awhile to post this since I had some running around in gathering all this bloodwork from my docs...but I hope this helps!

2.13.09 - liver values
AST 62 - range 17-59 (high)
ALT 63 - range 21-72 (in range, but in other test this 63 level would be considered high, so I consider this a high level)

6.17.09 - liver values
AST 84 - range 10-40 (high)
ALT 73 - range 9-60 (high)

10.21.09 PDF file - liver values (little over 3 weeks before start of cycle)
AST 69 - range 15-46 (high)
ALT 70 - range 7-58 (high)

11/15/09 - 12/19/10 Cycle protocol:
Phera: 30/30/20/0/0
SD: 0/0/10/20/20

PCT started on 12/20/09 until 1/23/10 - 5 weeks

Bloodwork on 12/28/09 - 9 days after last dose of cycle and 8 days into pct
AST 88 - range 10-40 (high)
ALT 91 - range 9-60 (high)

I took 2 types of liver protectant, liv52 and milk thistle on cycle, while in pct and beyond. My liver protectant protocol in pct was, liv52 (2 tabs 3x ed, 6 total tabs ed) and 3 caps (3g) ed of milk thistle before bed as well as 100mg of CoQ10 ed.

Liv52, milk thistle and coq10 were taken up until 2/4/10 before taking liver juice. I had liver juice on hand but wanted to get the 2/4/10 bloodwork to show the before aspect without liver juice in my system.

2/4/10, 2/4/10, blood drawn which was about 7 weeks after my last dose of SD, 2.4.10 PDF file attached for reference…my liver values were still high 2wks after my pct.

2.4.10 PDF file - liver values
AST 67 - range 0-40 (high)
ALT 64 - range 0-55 (high)
I stopped taking all other liver protectants on 2/4/10 and started on the liver juice on 2/15/10, again liver juice only as of 2/15/10 and no other liver protectants while running liver juice.

2/15/10 - Liver Juice protocol: 10ml everyday - 5ml at 9am and 5ml right before bed, usually around 11pm.

My next and last bloodwork was taken on 2/25/10.…2.25.10 PDF file attached for reference

2.25.10 PDF file - liver values
AST 52 - range 10-40 (high)
ALT 53 - range 9-60 (in range)

The 2/25/10 date marks the 11th days on liver juice and my liver values were lowered significantly from previous blood test, both AST and ALT levels were the lowest I have even seen. I should have done more bloodwork at the end of liver juice, but I just got too busy to take the time to run another blood test and just used the 2/25/10 test my doc requested…but my guess would be since I ran liver juice for the full 25 days @ 10ml ed which would have been an additional 14 days my values would have all been well in range.

Me likes Liver Juice! :thumbsup:

 

[jucedporkchop]

THATS GREAT!!
I know the "liver juice" is good for protecting and clensing the liver.
milkthistle has been used for many many years safely.
I have some Liver Juice on the way and cant wait to try it out.
great to here.
did you like the taste?

 

[bulldogz]

^^^I took straight to the mouth shots and at first I did not like the taste, but after the 3rd or 4th day I use to it and actaully started to like the taste...anything that's heathly really does not taste that good anyway, at least imo...

 

[UKStrength]

^^^I took straight to the mouth shots and at first I did not like the taste, but after the 3rd or 4th day I use to it and actaully started to like the taste...anything that's heathly really does not taste that good anyway, at least imo...

I have to admit, the taste isn't the greatest. Knowing PP though, it'll be reviewed and the next run will be awesome

 

[iDShaDoW]

Nice, thanks for sharing.

Kinda threadjacking but was wondering.

Basically got a free ultrasonography done and they spotted some polyps in my gall bladder. Hopefully it's linked to my semi-high LDL cholesterol levels and not something worse. No insurance to find out more.

Got a bottle of Liver Juice.

Any ideas if using it might indirectly help my gall bladder strengthen itself and dissolve and pass the polyps out of my system?

Thanks for any info.

Looked stuff up and the liver and gall bladder work together to create and store bile. Couldn't really find anything specific about milk thistle and gall bladder functions.

Either way I'm gonna be giving the Liver Juice a go but would give me some peace of mind to know if it'd help with my gall bladder symptoms. This will be on top of cleaning up my diet too of course.

 

[qwerty33]

thanks much for the results m8. One quick question. why would you start a cycle when your liver values were already in the high range? you only get one body

10.21.09 PDF file - liver values (little over 3 weeks before start of cycle)
AST 69 - range 15-46 (high)
ALT 70 - range 7-58 (high)"

 

[froggy543]

i would never start a cycle if everything wasnt in the normal ranges

 

[WhatsaRoid?]

thanks much for the results m8. One quick question. why would you start a cycle when your liver values were already in the high range? you only get one body

10.21.09 PDF file - liver values (little over 3 weeks before start of cycle)
AST 69 - range 15-46 (high)
ALT 70 - range 7-58 (high)"

Thats scary

Buy more liver juice while its on sale guys

 

[bulldogz]

thanks much for the results m8. One quick question. why would you start a cycle when your liver values were already in the high range? you only get one body

10.21.09 PDF file - liver values (little over 3 weeks before start of cycle)
AST 69 - range 15-46 (high)
ALT 70 - range 7-58 (high)"

I knew that it wouldn't get terrribly high or out of control and because of this I usually get bloodwork on a reg so if it got to a point where is was extremely high I would of def stop and start pct....but no problems so far and I would run this same cycle again if I really wanted to! :thumbsup:

But, needless to say, I might just be done with orals or atleast the real harsh ones like my last cycle ...but I truly believe that running PP's liver juice along side and in pct will keep levels stable and/or normalized...darkside here I come..lol...

Thats scary

Buy more liver juice while its on sale guys

Great sale PP has going on...just picked up 6 bottles of liver juice myself!

 

[WhatsaRoid?]

I knew that it wouldn't get terrribly high or out of control and because of this I usually get bloodwork on a reg so if it got to a point where is was extremely high I would of def stop and start pct....but no problems so far and I would run this same cycle again if I really wanted to! :thumbsup:

But, needless to say, I might just be done with orals or atleast the real harsh ones like my last cycle ...but I truly believe that running PP's liver juice along side and in pct will keep levels stable and/or normalized...darkside here I come..lol...



Great sale PP has going on...just picked up 6 bottles of liver juice myself!

Nice haha I picked up 2 and I still use my cycle support