Turinabol Question

[350zTT]

Just a few quick questions for ya'll really quick. I know this is a methylated compound but is it really that harsh on the liver? Is this a major concern? This would be really my first ph and am just looking for that extra edge during my cut. Will a ph really help to cut down that fast while retaining muscle? I have read nothing but great things about this compound and am definately interested in it. What would one suggest to stack with it for just a straight cut? I like my size right now just wanna pull some extra lbs from the midsection. Thanks

[WIULifter]

Just a few quick questions for ya'll really quick. I know this is a methylated compound but is it really that harsh on the liver? Is this a major concern? This would be really my first ph and am just looking for that extra edge during my cut. Will a ph really help to cut down that fast while retaining muscle? I have read nothing but great things about this compound and am definately interested in it. What would one suggest to stack with it for just a straight cut? I like my size right now just wanna pull some extra lbs from the midsection. Thanks

yes its methylated and it gives some cause for concern. That is why we produced Liver Juice to run with a cycle. Even if you took Turinabol solo I think you would experience a great recomp if your diet looks good.

Here is an un-sponsored review my buddy did.

Primordial Performance Turinabol-LV




What is it?

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1cc (1mL oral syringe)
Servings per container: 125

Amount Per Serving
%DV*

Turinabol
30mg**

(4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3b, 17b-diol)

Recommended Use:

As a dietary supplement take one 1mL - 2mL dose, twice daily, 12 hours between each dose. Shake bottle well before each dose. Take with or without meals.

My usage:
60/90/90/90/90/90

Currently:
Day 19

Thoughts:
So far this is a great PH. I picked this up one of the first days Primordial was selling it along with some Maximum Absorbed Protein. As usual Primordial shipping and customer service was top notch.

I have 3+ years experience lifting and thought this would be a great way to finish off a successful winter recomp/bulk. After PCT I plan to cut away some fat hopefully just in time for summer.

Gains so far:
+6.5 lbs (219 as of this morning)
-1 inch off of waist
+10 lbs on Bench, +20 lbs on Squats and SLDL, +10 lbs and reps on Military

Training Split:
Power/Hypertrophy
Upper Power
Lower Power
Off
Chest, Arms Hyper
Shoulders, Back Hyper
Legs Hyper
Off

I may throw in more off days or work around a workout depending on soreness. Power days now fall on the weekend when I don't work(just moved them there this weekend).

Diet
300-400g protein
250-350g carbs
75-100g fats

Ton of food I cook every other day. I pack 3-4 meals to work because I'm gone for upwards of 10 hours a day.

So....
There is hardly any feedback in PP Turinabol which is why I made this halfway review. If anyone has any feedback/questions/comments please ask away. PCT is well covered(nolva, LX, tboosting options). I also have all of my workouts going prior to the start of preloading Cycle Support if any ones has interest. Though those may take a bit to load.

[350zTT]

Thanks for the reply! Could I run it for only 4 weeks & still see some good recomp or is 6 weeks still best? It looks like the above reviewer saw good results in less than 20 days

[350zTT]

Also will pp's TRS more than suffice for PCT? I don't want to have to get a whole slough of other stuff!

[WIULifter]

Thanks for the reply! Could I run it for only 4 weeks & still see some good recomp or is 6 weeks still best? It looks like the above reviewer saw good results in less than 20 days

5-6 weeks would be best, that was a review in about the middle of his cycle.

Also will pp's TRS more than suffice for PCT? I don't want to have to get a whole slough of other stuff!

Well you're looking at supports, the turinabol, pct. A lot of people have used the TRS stack for PCT.

[350zTT]

Thanks for the reply! Yea I was looking at getting the turinabol stack on pp's site just wanted to make sure I didn't need anything else for pct!

[TheU]

I know this wasnt your question but i just got my order in two days ago of there turinabol muscle stack and it was packaged very well. Sounds like a small deal but to me it showed they cared about what they were sending to me.

[WIULifter]

I know this wasnt your question but i just got my order in two days ago of there turinabol muscle stack and it was packaged very well. Sounds like a small deal but to me it showed they cared about what they were sending to me.

they sure do a heck of a job

[jucedporkchop]

Id say run liver juice with it from PP for the course of the cycle and a couple weeks after.
the milkthistle in liver juice is great for cleaning/suppourting the liver.

[rulk22]

Id say run it for the whole 6 weeks. With Liver Juice, start using it 2 weeks before you start your cycle.

[Cubate]

I am ditching my stand alone Novedex XT cycle and buying the Turinabol Muscle Stack. Although I was told to wait two weeks on liver juice bbefore starting, considering I've been using NXT should I add an additional rest period?

[UKStrength]

I am ditching my stand alone Novedex XT cycle and buying the Turinabol Muscle Stack. Although I was told to wait two weeks on liver juice bbefore starting, considering I've been using NXT should I add an additional rest period?

No need mate, but the pre-loading of the liver juice should give you some nice support before your cycle. Just come off the NXT before you start.

[dumbhick3]

I know this wasnt your question but i just got my order in two days ago of there turinabol muscle stack and it was packaged very well. Sounds like a small deal but to me it showed they cared about what they were sending to me.

^^^I noticed the exact same thing ever since I first ordered from PP, and I appreciate the hell out of it. Of course I have to be careful with the LV products and my trusty razor blade/utility knife so I don't cut too deeply through the foam wraps!

[Tomahawk88]

5-6 weeks is where it is at. Im finishing week 5 right now and my strength is blowing up. My deadlift is 605 as of today. The most I had done before this cycle was 535. That is not saying it wasnt higher before I started my cycle but that is the most I attempted before this cycle. Another added bonus is I havent added a lot of weight but people are saying u look a lot thicker through ur chest and shoulders now.

[dumbhick3]

I agree with the 5-6 weeks recommendation. Last time I used a halodrol clone, I only used it for 3 weeks, and the start of week 3 is really when the recomp effects start to kick in very noticeably for me. I would have ran it for 6 weeks, but I started it in the middle of another cycle.

[UKStrength]

I agree with the 5-6 weeks recommendation. Last time I used a halodrol clone, I only used it for 3 weeks, and the start of week 3 is really when the recomp effects start to kick in very noticeably for me. I would have ran it for 6 weeks, but I started it in the middle of another cycle.

6 weeks seems to be the sweet spot for most oral DS cycles in terms of recovery, sides and gains. That is of course, until you throw SuperDrone into the mix...I'd not run that over 4 weeks!

[dumbhick3]

^^^He ain't kiddin' about the superdrone. I'd probably shoot for 3 weeks, 4 at most.

Halodrol/Turinabol is kind of peculiar among the orals in that it really starts to work beautifully in week 3 and beyond. So weeks 3 through 6 will be the most impressive part of the cycle IMO. Run the Liver Juice (+2 week front load) and run the Turinabol LV for 6 weeks as well and you will probably be quite impressed with the results.

[Cubate]

^^^He ain't kiddin' about the superdrone. I'd probably shoot for 3 weeks, 4 at most.

Halodrol/Turinabol is kind of peculiar among the orals in that it really starts to work beautifully in week 3 and beyond. So weeks 3 through 6 will be the most impressive part of the cycle IMO. Run the Liver Juice (+2 week front load) and run the Turinabol LV for 6 weeks as well and you will probably be quite impressed with the results.

Interesting regarding results...
Can one keep these results if workout continues or do they dissipate after a while...

[dumbhick3]

Interesting regarding results...
Can one keep these results if workout continues or do they dissipate after a while...

If you run the TRS for PCT properly, you should keep every bit of your gains from a Turinabol LV/Halodrol cycle (most people can attest to this).

You have to keep calories high during PCT regardless (or your body will burn that new muscle instead of old fat for energy) and then titrate to your new BMR (basal metabolic rate). If you put on 5 lean lbs for instance, your calories needed per day will increase to sustain your new weight.

During PCT itself, it is usually best to err on the side of eating a bit too much rather than too little-you just don't want to give your body a chance to rid itself of that unwanted new muscle (that is the way the body sees it). And then just do cardio+adjust diet or whatever you do to reduce fat (stims, etc) say 2 months down the road after your weight is solid and you can cut any fat you put on during PCT and still keep the muscle you gained. Once your new weight solidifies, it becomes like your old weight-the body wants it to stay the same (a good thing if you do the above correctly). Just DON'T go on a diet during PCT-that is the easiest way to lose all your gains.

BTW, I've kept all of my gains for my last 2 cycles (and I gained a few lbs of fat too, but nothing I can't get rid of). When I first started doing cycles several years ago, I'd gain a lot and lose half because I didn't know much about PCT and I was using highly suppressive compounds like M1T. Turinabol LV is not highly suppressive by any means.

So the short answer is yes, you can keep your gains; just use a solid PCT like the TRS and follow some PCT diet guidelines and you will be good to go.

[zenn1102]

^^^^^^^^^VERY good info, thank you. Reps