dermacrine or turinabol for first PH

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  1. dermacrine or turinabol for first PH


    what product is best for a first time user to PHs dermacrine or your turinabol lv ????

    Also second question which one would be better best for cutting.

  2. UKStrength
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    Dermacrine would probably be best for your needs as it's the milder of the two compounds and actually has a stronger 'fat burning' effect than Turinabol.

    No problem stocking up on the Turinabol though for a future cycle!
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  3. Would the overall results be better from turinabol then with dermacrine?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by UKStrength View Post
    Dermacrine would probably be best for your needs as it's the milder of the two compounds and actually has a stronger 'fat burning' effect than Turinabol.

    No problem stocking up on the Turinabol though for a future cycle!
    ok cool i didnt know that i know hdrol was always the best option for someone looking to recomp so i thought it had good fat loss,

    Did not realise dermacrine is good for fat loss might cycle that one first then ???

    What about foremaxstane you have got in lv would that be any good for a first cycle and is it any good for fat loss ??

  5. What about stacking the formestane LV with the dermacrine LV? Sounds like a sweet stack to me :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnT View Post
    What about stacking the formestane LV with the dermacrine LV? Sounds like a sweet stack to me :-)
    That would be a nice choice for a 'cutting/recomp' stack, but keep the dose of the formestane low though.

    Dermacrine is completely unmethylated (unlike Turinabol LV), it is the weaker of the two compounds but does not require liver support (such as our Liver Juice).

    I'm personally running a short (1 month cycle) of Dermacrine LV, stacked with our Fat Loss Stack (DermaTherm Target, CLA and Green Tea Extract) and AlphaBurn. The results are phenomenal thus far!

    I'll then move into our new SuperDrone to bulk for 3-4 Weeks, again, stacked with Dermacrine LV.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by UKStrength View Post
    That would be a nice choice for a 'cutting/recomp' stack, but keep the dose of the formestane low though.

    Dermacrine is completely unmethylated (unlike Turinabol LV), it is the weaker of the two compounds but does not require liver support (such as our Liver Juice).

    I'm personally running a short (1 month cycle) of Dermacrine LV, stacked with our Fat Loss Stack (DermaTherm Target, CLA and Green Tea Extract) and AlphaBurn. The results are phenomenal thus far!

    I'll then move into our new SuperDrone to bulk for 3-4 Weeks, again, stacked with Dermacrine LV.
    WHy would you keep the Formestane low in this stack? Well I guess that depends what you mean by low : - ). .How much are you suggesting

    Also could I add in HGH-UP to this stack?

    Thanks
  8. UKStrength
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    Quote Originally Posted by dollar662 View Post
    WHy would you keep the Formestane low in this stack? Well I guess that depends what you mean by low : - ). .How much are you suggesting

    Also could I add in HGH-UP to this stack?

    Thanks
    Dermacrine doesn't aromatise, so there's no need to run the Formestane at a high dosage to reduce oestrogen.

    HGHUp would be awesome in this stack I can't wait for mine to arrive ...

  9. But DHEA can convert to estrogen just as easily as it can to test, right?
  10. UKStrength
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnT View Post
    But DHEA can convert to estrogen just as easily as it can to test, right?
    Right That's why I only suggest a low dose of Formestane if any on cycle mate (half dose).

  11. Could Dermacrine and Phyto-Test be stacked to gain mass, weight, and strength?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by UKStrength View Post
    That would be a nice choice for a 'cutting/recomp' stack, but keep the dose of the formestane low though.

    Dermacrine is completely unmethylated (unlike Turinabol LV), it is the weaker of the two compounds but does not require liver support (such as our Liver Juice).

    I'm personally running a short (1 month cycle) of Dermacrine LV, stacked with our Fat Loss Stack (DermaTherm Target, CLA and Green Tea Extract) and AlphaBurn. The results are phenomenal thus far!

    I'll then move into our new SuperDrone to bulk for 3-4 Weeks, again, stacked with Dermacrine LV.
    can you Pm me your results of your cut might run that stack myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    can you Pm me your results of your cut might run that stack myself
    Yeah no worries mate, I'll be starting tomorrow so I'll take pre/post pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynasty90 View Post
    Could Dermacrine and Phyto-Test be stacked to gain mass, weight, and strength?
    Certainly can, great stack!

  15. any recommendations on running formestane alone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecupirate View Post
    any recommendations on running formestane alone?
    Can be done, and would be great for a cutting/recomposition cycle. We'd recommend a short PCT afterwards though, just to protect against rebounding oestrogen levels.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JohnT View Post
    But DHEA can convert to estrogen just as easily as it can to test, right?
    yes and i believe thats why some people get anxiety while taking it(me being one of them) so this time around ill be running low dose form with it and see how it goes

  18. I would do Turinabol over Dermacrine in all honesty, I feel you will be slightly disappointed (though not totally) with DHEA cycle. I looooooove 4-chloro and have used both.....

    Now stacked would be verrry nice.

    I also felt no problems with Dermacrine in estrogen department that I would need any type of AI especially when stacked with a dry PH.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Grambo View Post
    I would do Turinabol over Dermacrine in all honesty, I feel you will be slightly disappointed (though not totally) with DHEA cycle. I looooooove 4-chloro and have used both.....

    Now stacked would be verrry nice.

    I also felt no problems with Dermacrine in estrogen department that I would need any type of AI especially when stacked with a dry PH.
    So you are suggesting a stack of Turinabol with Dermacrine as a great stack correct? I have those that I plan on stacking, would just like thoughts from others. Also will be taking PP Maximum Absorption Protein with these two.

  20. Yes it is. Might do it again coming up.

  21. Don't forget that his talking about a first cycle, although I'd also go with 4-chloro over DHEA, for a first timer I guess that Dermacrine would be nicer
    Although for a second cycle a Turina/Dermacrine stack would be great

  22. Adding DHEA is really not too crazy to "stack" with a first cycle. Especially as itvactually reduce sides.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Grambo View Post
    Yes it is. Might do it again coming up.
    What was your dosing pattern? Results?

  24. It's honestly been awhile ago. Low dosed Epi/hdrol combo with Dermacrine 5-6 pumps. Basically just recomping I think. Felt great all lifts went up. There's actually a log somewhere on here.... Can't remember the name though

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    what product is best for a first time user to PHs dermacrine or your turinabol lv ????

    Also second question which one would be better best for cutting.
    Honestly, either way it's decent for a first time user. You'll get the 7-OXO-Dhea/7-Beta-DHEA metabolites from the Dermacrine which are very good for fatloss. The Turinabol product will also give you good results in that regard, but a bit more muscle mass. Dermacrine is a great (milder) alternative "Test-base" product as it will convert to some testosterone/estrogen. This will be a very good supporter of libido, as well as addition to gains.

    I don't recommend stacking anything though for a first-time user. Try either product as a solo effort to gauge some experience and your response.

    If you have any additional questions, let me know.


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