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I wanted to share my experience with Primordial Performance’s Testosterone Recovery Stack (TRS) for the benefit of others who are thinking about using Primordial Performance’s TRS. I am not a Primordial Performance rep. Nor have I ever been a rep for any supp company.
FIRST A LITTLE BACKGROUND (Or you can skip the background and go straight to my notes on TRS below): I normally do not run PH’s, although I’ve run about four different cycles in the past five years. I’ve never experienced any significant shutdown or problems with my PCT following these PH cycles. Primarily I stick to using USPlabs Powerfull and SuperCissus RX. I’ve had great results with these products, along with whey, creatine, and about a 3000 cal/day diet. I was always satisfied with this as it suited my workout goals, using USP products as the norm and only occasionally doing a PH.
However, recently I’ve experienced a very harsh shutdown following a cycle of LG Sciences’ Methyl 1-D and Methyl Masterdrol V2 which I ran within the last three months of a tour in Iraq. Although I’ve always had success with the USPlabs supps I had heard so many good things in terms of strength gains so I thought I would give LGS a try. The only thing I had planned for PCT was Formadrol. I ran LGS stack for four weeks, ran the Formadrol for four weeks, and went back to my USP supps for the last four weeks of my time in Iraq.
Immediately after coming off of the LGS stack a noticed a significant drop in strength in the gym. I was taking the Formadrol so I thought perhaps the significant drop in strength was my reaction to the summer heat arriving once again in Iraq. Looking back over my preparation for the cycle I realize that my research in terms of PCT was not nearly as thorough as it should have been. My hasty research of the product encouraged me to believe that I only needed Formadrol for PCT. I gave no consideration to a SERM. In any case my research should have been more thorough.
I finally realized how shutdown I was after departing Iraq and finally arriving home to my wife, some 10 weeks after coming off of the LGS stack. As you can imagine it was now time to wreck a few headboards after not seeing my wife for such a long time. When we first began to go at it I had a hard erection (from my perspective) that quickly turned to semi-hard (and by quick I mean two minutes)….and then not really hard at all. Subsequent attempts were the same. I could do little more than produce a semi-soft erection. I even used some OTC enhancement products that have always – ALWAYS – given me very full, hard erections in the past (Goliath Labs Stimuloid, Irwin Naturals Steel Libido, and Hi-Tech’s Stamina RX for Men). They did absolutely nothing for me at this point. Nothing more than a tingle.
I began trying a multitude of OTC PCT products which did nothing. The only OTC PCT product that seemed to give me any sort of feeling of arousal was Anabolic Extreme’s Advanced PCT. Still the improvement was minimal. I was not getting any type of excitement from watching porn, playing around with my wife, dancing with other women in the club….nothing. Also I rarely had morning wood and I didn’t get any momentary hardons during the day. At this point I was scared but did not want to go the HCG route quite yet. I got a hold of some Nolva 20mg tabs (by the way I am not currently working/living in the U.S.) and for the first three days I dosed 40mg/day. After the third day I discontinued use after my left eye began to feel pretty funky and seemed to be constantly irritated (a possibility that I was aware of with the use of Nolva).
Finally this brought me back to the AM forums to research alternatives to the Nolva. I ran across a few posts on PP’s TRS and decided to give it a shot. Below is my experience so far with TRS.
MY EXPERIENCE WITH TRS:
At this point my sexual confidence was nowhere, my self esteem was pretty low, and I had completely stopped working out. Just depressed really. I read the product description for TRS and all of its three components. My general impression was that PP’s was pushing hype like a lot of supp companies tend to do….promising the world but delivering little. I really was depressed and figured it couldn’t hurt so I order the TRS stack and got it about a week later.
I believe I was somewhere around 12 – 14 weeks post LGS cycle when I started using TRS. I am currently starting my second week of use of TRS.
I started week one with six pumps of Sustain Alpha version 7.6. Applying one pump to the shoulder area, upper arm, and biceps; one pump to the pec and abdominal area down to my belly button; and another pump to the leg above the knee and buttocks. I did this on each half of the body for a total of six pumps. The Toco-8 and EndoAmp Max I’ve taken one scoop per day per directions. I usually take T8 and E-Max in the morning before work and SA at night after showering. I’ve continued this same dosing for the second week. And of course the SA is being dosed five days on and two days off.
By the third day of use of the TRS stack I began to experience morning wood again, spontaneous hardons during the day, and an actual desire for sex. On day six I went out dancing with the Mrs. And noticed having very hard erections off the body contact. Of course I got me some that night, but mind you this was the FIRST attempt at sex since my miserable failures after returning from Iraq. I didn’t want to chance it, however, and I popped a Viagra just to be sure. My thought process on this was that I had taken sexual enhancers previously with no affect. I figured that this positive reaction from the Viagra while on TRS was in some way a positive reflection on TRS. On day seven we went at it again without the Viagra this time. I conquered the mountain (or the valley in this case) with no problem. Twice. In a row. Today is day eight. I’ve also noticed I’ll get wood from thinking about these sexual experiences and just you know….what I want to do to my wife. Reflecting on our past couple days of sexual activity I actually got wood in the shower….I’m just pointing all over the place.
I am pretty enthused by TRS so far because honestly after 8 days of use I can honestly say that I feel damn close to normal. Not 100%, but if I had to guess, based on nothing scientific of course, I would say I feel I’m about 70 – 75% normal now. Maybe 80%. Two weeks ago I was nowhere near where I am in terms of sexual desire, sexual responsiveness, endurance, erection, et cetera. My confidence has returned and I’ve decided to start working out again in about two weeks after some conditioning with push ups and light resistance exercises.
Also, starting today I began adding the Nolva to the TRS stack. Given my initial reaction to Nolva at 40mg/day I decided to drop down to something that is more tolerable. I split the 20mg tabs and I’m taking only half a tab a day. If any Primordial reps have any thoughts on this as to whether I should or shouldn’t mix the TRS and Nolva please let me know. I don’t want to disturb the TRS mojo.
With regard to not feeling 100% normal I’m anxious to see where I’ll be in three more weeks. I haven’t noticed any significant increase in testes size. I’ve never really had sizable testes to begin with so I’m not sure how I will be able to make a determination on the impact of TRS physically (so far I haven’t applied any SA directly to the sack, but I may try this starting today). My ejaculations also seem a bit off. While cuming I get the good ol wave of sensation, but there appears to be a delay on the passage of the semen. I haven’t had sex in so long (mind you I was in Iraq sexless for roughly six months before I returned home to the wife) I really can’t tell if this is normal or not. I will say it’s a significant improvement over my ejaculation experience immediately following my homecoming. There were times where I came, experience the feel good sensation, but only produced a very small amount of semen. More comparable to someone blowing their nose than blowing the load. But big improvement. Significant amounts of semen released in past few days.
That’s basically it. My experience with TRS has been so positive in the past 8 days that I’ve already decided to begin another cycle of TRS following the current. If any Primordial reps can advise as to whether this is a good idea or not I would appreciate it. But all around TRS appears to be an excellent product – the real deal. I’ve never been severely shut down before like I’ve experienced following the Methyl 1-D and Methyl Masterdrol V2 stack, so I’m taken aback at how affective TRS is. The difference I’ve noticed from 10 days ago has been night and day. I am hyping right now because TRS has given me reason to be hyped…..But there is no hype in this product. It appears to be doing everything is supposed to be doing as advertised. I would definitely use again and in fact I’m already planning to.
FIRST A LITTLE BACKGROUND (Or you can skip the background and go straight to my notes on TRS below): I normally do not run PH’s, although I’ve run about four different cycles in the past five years. I’ve never experienced any significant shutdown or problems with my PCT following these PH cycles. Primarily I stick to using USPlabs Powerfull and SuperCissus RX. I’ve had great results with these products, along with whey, creatine, and about a 3000 cal/day diet. I was always satisfied with this as it suited my workout goals, using USP products as the norm and only occasionally doing a PH.
However, recently I’ve experienced a very harsh shutdown following a cycle of LG Sciences’ Methyl 1-D and Methyl Masterdrol V2 which I ran within the last three months of a tour in Iraq. Although I’ve always had success with the USPlabs supps I had heard so many good things in terms of strength gains so I thought I would give LGS a try. The only thing I had planned for PCT was Formadrol. I ran LGS stack for four weeks, ran the Formadrol for four weeks, and went back to my USP supps for the last four weeks of my time in Iraq.
Immediately after coming off of the LGS stack a noticed a significant drop in strength in the gym. I was taking the Formadrol so I thought perhaps the significant drop in strength was my reaction to the summer heat arriving once again in Iraq. Looking back over my preparation for the cycle I realize that my research in terms of PCT was not nearly as thorough as it should have been. My hasty research of the product encouraged me to believe that I only needed Formadrol for PCT. I gave no consideration to a SERM. In any case my research should have been more thorough.
I finally realized how shutdown I was after departing Iraq and finally arriving home to my wife, some 10 weeks after coming off of the LGS stack. As you can imagine it was now time to wreck a few headboards after not seeing my wife for such a long time. When we first began to go at it I had a hard erection (from my perspective) that quickly turned to semi-hard (and by quick I mean two minutes)….and then not really hard at all. Subsequent attempts were the same. I could do little more than produce a semi-soft erection. I even used some OTC enhancement products that have always – ALWAYS – given me very full, hard erections in the past (Goliath Labs Stimuloid, Irwin Naturals Steel Libido, and Hi-Tech’s Stamina RX for Men). They did absolutely nothing for me at this point. Nothing more than a tingle.
I began trying a multitude of OTC PCT products which did nothing. The only OTC PCT product that seemed to give me any sort of feeling of arousal was Anabolic Extreme’s Advanced PCT. Still the improvement was minimal. I was not getting any type of excitement from watching porn, playing around with my wife, dancing with other women in the club….nothing. Also I rarely had morning wood and I didn’t get any momentary hardons during the day. At this point I was scared but did not want to go the HCG route quite yet. I got a hold of some Nolva 20mg tabs (by the way I am not currently working/living in the U.S.) and for the first three days I dosed 40mg/day. After the third day I discontinued use after my left eye began to feel pretty funky and seemed to be constantly irritated (a possibility that I was aware of with the use of Nolva).
Finally this brought me back to the AM forums to research alternatives to the Nolva. I ran across a few posts on PP’s TRS and decided to give it a shot. Below is my experience so far with TRS.
MY EXPERIENCE WITH TRS:
At this point my sexual confidence was nowhere, my self esteem was pretty low, and I had completely stopped working out. Just depressed really. I read the product description for TRS and all of its three components. My general impression was that PP’s was pushing hype like a lot of supp companies tend to do….promising the world but delivering little. I really was depressed and figured it couldn’t hurt so I order the TRS stack and got it about a week later.
I believe I was somewhere around 12 – 14 weeks post LGS cycle when I started using TRS. I am currently starting my second week of use of TRS.
I started week one with six pumps of Sustain Alpha version 7.6. Applying one pump to the shoulder area, upper arm, and biceps; one pump to the pec and abdominal area down to my belly button; and another pump to the leg above the knee and buttocks. I did this on each half of the body for a total of six pumps. The Toco-8 and EndoAmp Max I’ve taken one scoop per day per directions. I usually take T8 and E-Max in the morning before work and SA at night after showering. I’ve continued this same dosing for the second week. And of course the SA is being dosed five days on and two days off.
By the third day of use of the TRS stack I began to experience morning wood again, spontaneous hardons during the day, and an actual desire for sex. On day six I went out dancing with the Mrs. And noticed having very hard erections off the body contact. Of course I got me some that night, but mind you this was the FIRST attempt at sex since my miserable failures after returning from Iraq. I didn’t want to chance it, however, and I popped a Viagra just to be sure. My thought process on this was that I had taken sexual enhancers previously with no affect. I figured that this positive reaction from the Viagra while on TRS was in some way a positive reflection on TRS. On day seven we went at it again without the Viagra this time. I conquered the mountain (or the valley in this case) with no problem. Twice. In a row. Today is day eight. I’ve also noticed I’ll get wood from thinking about these sexual experiences and just you know….what I want to do to my wife. Reflecting on our past couple days of sexual activity I actually got wood in the shower….I’m just pointing all over the place.
I am pretty enthused by TRS so far because honestly after 8 days of use I can honestly say that I feel damn close to normal. Not 100%, but if I had to guess, based on nothing scientific of course, I would say I feel I’m about 70 – 75% normal now. Maybe 80%. Two weeks ago I was nowhere near where I am in terms of sexual desire, sexual responsiveness, endurance, erection, et cetera. My confidence has returned and I’ve decided to start working out again in about two weeks after some conditioning with push ups and light resistance exercises.
Also, starting today I began adding the Nolva to the TRS stack. Given my initial reaction to Nolva at 40mg/day I decided to drop down to something that is more tolerable. I split the 20mg tabs and I’m taking only half a tab a day. If any Primordial reps have any thoughts on this as to whether I should or shouldn’t mix the TRS and Nolva please let me know. I don’t want to disturb the TRS mojo.
With regard to not feeling 100% normal I’m anxious to see where I’ll be in three more weeks. I haven’t noticed any significant increase in testes size. I’ve never really had sizable testes to begin with so I’m not sure how I will be able to make a determination on the impact of TRS physically (so far I haven’t applied any SA directly to the sack, but I may try this starting today). My ejaculations also seem a bit off. While cuming I get the good ol wave of sensation, but there appears to be a delay on the passage of the semen. I haven’t had sex in so long (mind you I was in Iraq sexless for roughly six months before I returned home to the wife) I really can’t tell if this is normal or not. I will say it’s a significant improvement over my ejaculation experience immediately following my homecoming. There were times where I came, experience the feel good sensation, but only produced a very small amount of semen. More comparable to someone blowing their nose than blowing the load. But big improvement. Significant amounts of semen released in past few days.
That’s basically it. My experience with TRS has been so positive in the past 8 days that I’ve already decided to begin another cycle of TRS following the current. If any Primordial reps can advise as to whether this is a good idea or not I would appreciate it. But all around TRS appears to be an excellent product – the real deal. I’ve never been severely shut down before like I’ve experienced following the Methyl 1-D and Methyl Masterdrol V2 stack, so I’m taken aback at how affective TRS is. The difference I’ve noticed from 10 days ago has been night and day. I am hyping right now because TRS has given me reason to be hyped…..But there is no hype in this product. It appears to be doing everything is supposed to be doing as advertised. I would definitely use again and in fact I’m already planning to.
