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    Question substain alpha and Dermacrine


    whats the diff. between the two? the ingredients are similar. is substain for pct? is Dermacrine a ph? thanks.

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    I believe Dermacrine has a bunch of DHEA in it - so while it likely isnt supressive, or very supressive, it wouldent be good for PCT. However it would likely put more muscle on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryaroberts View Post
    whats the diff. between the two? the ingredients are similar. is substain for pct? is Dermacrine a ph? thanks.
    Dermacrine is a light PH and has DHEA in it. So Dermacrine is not used for PCT.


    Sustain Alpha has Resveratrol and 7,8 Benzoflavone. And is highly recommended for PCT.

    Resveratrol helps block estrogen and increase testosterone production.

    7,8 Benzoflavone will increase your libido.

    What are you looking for?? PCT?? Or a PH??
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxGolf View Post
    What are you looking for?? PCT?? Or a PH??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryaroberts View Post
    pct
    I would go with the TRS (Testosterone Recovery Stack) it comes with Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, and EndoAmp Max
    you can read all about it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxGolf View Post
    I would go with the TRS (Testosterone Recovery Stack) it comes with Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, and EndoAmp Max
    you can read all about it here.

    http://www.primordialperformance.com...ery_Stack.html
    Yes sir! A great stack for PCT all around!

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    just took a look at dermacrine ingredients and it has 36mg of resveratrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legacykid View Post
    just took a look at dermacrine ingredients and it has 36mg of resveratrol
    Yes it does. It also has 72mg of DHEA and that’s why we do not suggest it for PCT
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    If someone could explain it to me, how does, what I consider dramatically less resveratrol, give that much better of results? I guess its like 166 in Sustain and 36 in Dermacrine...Im sure there is a good answer, just wondering. I wont pretend to understand this all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    If someone could explain it to me, how does, what I consider dramatically less resveratrol, give that much better of results? I guess its like 166 in Sustain and 36 in Dermacrine...Im sure there is a good answer, just wondering. I wont pretend to understand this all.
    I believe the lower amount of res is just to combat estro if theres some conversion from the dhea.

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    I actually remember using Dermacrine during PCT after talking to a Prim rep about it. From memory it was served quite useful in retaining gains from the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankJ View Post
    I believe Dermacrine has a bunch of DHEA in it - so while it likely isnt supressive, or very supressive, it wouldent be good for PCT. However it would likely put more muscle on you.
    but the DHEA is a androgen precursor this cause GYNO.....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    but the DHEA is a androgen precursor this cause GYNO.....?
    Androgens don't cause gyno. The conversion to estrogen might be more of an issue, easy controlled with an AI like formestane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Androgens don't cause gyno. The conversion to estrogen might be more of an issue, easy controlled with an AI like formestane.
    What is the best AI OTC rigth now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    What is the best AI OTC rigth now?
    That really depends on a myriad of factors (especially on a hormonal cycle.) As for OTC: go with formestane or 6-bromo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    I actually remember using Dermacrine during PCT after talking to a Prim rep about it. From memory it was served quite useful in retaining gains from the cycle.
    Oh gosh… we actually did recommend for PCT at one point, but that was about 3 years ago.

    Once we realized that DHEA was rapidly converting to suppressive metabolites we stopped recommending it for PCT and developed Sustain. (no DHEA)

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