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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Primordial Performance's 1-T Tren Write-Up!Primordial Performance Presents: 1-T Tren! 1-T TREN is finally here, and it represents a true pinnacle. As the list of legal and effective steroid hormones becomes smaller and smaller, the FDA ban list of anabolic substances becomes increasingly larger. Considering the current legal environment for steroid based compounds, 1-T TREN is likely going to be the most powerful steroidal product that Primordial Performance will ever release. In fact, 1-T may quite possibly be the most powerful product available on the current legal market. [And it probably isn't going to be available very long if congress continues their "war against anabolics"] Now, before we talk about the marvelous power of 1-T TREN, I want to come clean. We are calling this product 1-T TREN because we are utilizing a hormone that has effects and a molecular structure very close to the anabolic steroid Trenbolone. So when we say "This is the closest legal thing to injectable Trenbolone", we really mean it. [Even though it's not actual Trenbolone, nor does it convert to Trenbolone] The legal steroid hormone we are calling "TREN" is known as 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione [aka, Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione] Most noteworthy, is that TREN doesn't need to make any conversions to exert its muscle building effects, because of its unique chemical structure. Just compare the two steroid molecules and you will see they share a very similar molecular structure - ![]() Essentially, this legal molecule is Trenbolone's little brother, and it offers the following benefits - Non-methylated & non-toxic to the liver Does not require metabolic conversion Highly anabolic with zero estrogen conversion Dramatic gains in strength and dense, lean muscle To understand the specific activity & effects of TREN, let's take a quick look at the science of Trenbolone - [most of which applies to TREN] Trenbolone The Legendary Anabolic Androgenic Steroid (AAS) Even as an illegal Schedule III controlled substance, Trenbolone maintains tremendous popularity for its rapid muscle building, physique hardening and fat burning effects. Being that Trenbolone is several times more anabolic & androgenic than testosterone, it's hailed as one of the most powerful AAS's for increasing strength, muscle density, and body fat reduction -- while causing minimal bloating and water retention. (1) This also makes Trenbolone [or TREN] ideal for either bulking or cutting cycles. Trenbolone has been used by bodybuilders and athletes for decades in all kinds of preparations. Those willing to take the risk of committing a federal offense, purchase Finaplix implant tablets (Trenbolone acetate) from veterinarian supply shops and convert them to injectable or transdermal preparations with homemade kits. Some individuals have even gone as far as taking the Finaplix tablets as suppositories. Let's just say, people have gone to great lengths to get their hands on this stuff. When we examine the molecular structure of Trenbolone and TREN, we can see a double bond in 9th position. This unique structural modification enhances the androgenic and anabolic power of the molecule. It also causes the molecules to resist conversion from steroid converting enzymes such as aromatase and 5a-reductase. Therefore, neither Trenbolone or TREN can be converted to estrogen [by aromatase], or other highly androgenic compounds, such as DHT [by 5a-reductase]. (8,9) Side Effects Trenbolone does have one downfall or upside, depending on how you look at it. Trenbolone is a progestin based anabolic, which means it activates the progesterone receptor [PR]. (1) The combination of a high affinity for the androgen & progesterone receptor makes Trenbolone especially prone to cause individuals to "Hulk out" with aggression and anger. [A great thing for the gym, but a problem for the people that irritate you] Aside from the possible emotional episodes, the PR action of Trenbolone can also stimulate gyno by directly activating the progesterone receptor [PR]. (1) This makes Trenbolone problematic when stacked with highly estrogenic compounds, since it appears that activation of the PR increases estrogen's proliferative ability on breast tissue. (2) Therefore, to avoid gyno symptoms it is best to use Trenbolone [or related steroids] with compounds that have low estrogenic activity. Even though Trenbolone lacks the ability to convert to DHT, it can encourage temporary hair loss because of its direct action on the androgen receptor [AR]. However, the possible hair shedding from Trenbolone could be considered less than the hair loss associated with high DHT producing compounds. [eg, testosterone] Being that TREN is a closely related analogue of Trenbolone, it shares both the good and the possible negative effects I just presented. Considering this, we had to formulate 1-T TREN in a precisely balanced ratio to avoid the side-effects, yet make it as effective as possible. And that's exactly what we did with 1-T TREN -- and the result is quite incredible. We stacked TREN with 1-Androsterone™, which is a non-aromatizing steroid hormone that converts to the original 1-Testosterone, as seen here (3,4) - [also used in our original 1-T] ![]() Unfortunately, 1-Testosterone tends to suppress the libido and cause feelings of lethargy. So, we added a precise dose of DHEA, to counter these effects. DHEA helps prevent lethargy by converting to powerful "neurosteroids" that encourage cognitive function and motivational drive. (5,6) DHEA also converts to several 5a-reduced metabolites that help support libido. DHEA can also make conversions to other hormones, such as Testosterone. As most bodybuilders know, stacking a compound like Trenbolone with Testosterone is one of the most effective stacks for gaining sheer mass, strength and size. However, as mentioned earlier, stacking Trenbolone with estrogenic compounds such as Testosterone can lead to gyno. So we had to keep the dose of DHEA moderate to avoid these potential estrogenic/progestogenic side effects. Thus, the end result is an anabolic masterpiece that captures the maximum anabolic muscle building effects, while keeping side effects to a minimum. Finally, the hormones in 1-T TREN are efficiently delivered into the blood stream with our latest 6.0 OHV topical delivery system. Expect 30-40% of the active ingredients to be shuttled into the body over a 12-24 hour period. (10,11) The final formulation of 1-T TREN smells of true victory and greatness. [It seriously does, just take a deep inhalation on your first application] As with any powerful anabolic, users shall still expect suppression of natural testosterone while using 1-T TREN. Therefore, a proper PCT after a cycle will be necessary. For more information, please see the Official PCT Thread If you're interested in learning how to best use 1-T TREN based on your goals, see the Official 1-T TREN Cycling Thread Thank you for supporting Primordial Performance. -Eric Potratz President & Founder ![]() 1-T TREN 6.0 Characteristics: Fast drying creamy lotion, possessing fresh citrus scent. Active Ingredients: Active ingredients per 5 pumps 1-Androsterone™ – 90 mg 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione (TREN) - 81 mg DHEA – 57 mg Other Ingredients: Distilled water, grape spirits*, aloe vera*, ethoxy diglycol, dimethyl isosorbide, butylene glycol, jojoba oil, emu oil, squalene, tocopherol acetate, chamomile extract* (matricaria recutita), isopropyl myristate, green tea extract* (camellia sinensis), cetyl palmitate, sorbitan palmitate, sorbitan olivate, glyceryl stearate, PEG 100 stearate, glycerin, dimethicone, strontium nitrate, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, d-Limonene, tetrahydropiperine†, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sodium PCA, sodium hydroxide. * Certified Organic † US Patent 6,849,645 The radio interview with Eric on superhuman radio about our 1-T Tren: http://www.superhumanradio.com/rss/2...R_Show_294.mp3 Click here: to order 1-T Tren! You can also order the Click for 1-T Tren Twin Pack, or a Click for 1-T Tren Case References - 1. Characterisation of the affinity of different anabolics and synthetic hormones to the human androgen receptor, human sex hormone binding globulin and to the bovine progestin receptor. Bauer, Meyer et al. Acta Pathol Microbiol Imunol Scand Suppl 108 (2000) 838-46 2. Progesterone is not essential to the differentiative potential of mammary epithelium in the male mouse. Freeman, et al. Endocrinology. 1978 Jul;103(1):186-92 3. 17beta-hydroxy-5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one (1-testosterone) is a potent androgen with anabolic properties. A Friedel, et al. Toxicol Lett, Aug 2006; 165(2): 149-55. 4. Galletti and Gardi, “Metabolism of 1-Dehydroandrostanes in Man” J Steroid Biochem, 3 (1972), 933-936 5. Novel brain function: biosynthesis and actions of neurosteroids in neurons. K Tsutsui, et al. Neurosci Res, Apr 2000; 36(4): 261-73. 6. DHEA treatment for HIV patients: Effects on mood, androgenic and anabolic parameters. Rabkin, J., et al. Psychoneuro endocrinology. R. 25, 53-68. 2000 7. Pharmacological and endocrinological studies on anabolic steroids. Neumann F. et al. Environ Qual Saf Suppl 1976 (5) 253-64 8. Unique steroid congeners for receptor studies. Ojasoo, Raynaud. Cancer Research 38 (1978) 4186-98 9. Disposition of 17 beta-trenbolone in humans. Spranger, et al. J Chromatogr 564 (1991) 485-92 10. Pharmacokinetics of a new testosterone transdermal delivery system, TDS-testosterone in healthy males. Z Chik, et al. Br J Clin Pharmacol, Mar 2006; 61(3): 275-9. 11. High bioavailability of dehydroepiandrosterone administered percutaneously in the rat C Labrie, et al. Sep 1996; 150: S107 - S118. | |||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Since this compound has excellent oral bioavailability, what would make this transdermal product stand out from the many other estra-4-9 diene-3, 17-dione products on the market? I mean 80 bucks for a product that most charge around 35, is a big leap in price. | |||
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![]() I don't see any "aggressive line of questioning" here. A boy ask an interesting question (why transdermal tren if oral tren has good bioavailability and its way cheaper) and nobody answer that. Thats all. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Anybody got a answer for me with the oxyguno question, I know its a hdrol clone but I was just wondering. Ill probally just run the 1-t/tren by itself. I only ordered one bottle, how soon should you exspect to see results with this compund. I wont another bottle but I wanted to run it for a few weeks to see what I was gettin in to. Also does any PP rep know if PP is gonna be at the arnold next weekend? | |||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Guys, i'll get to answering your questions tonight. ![]() Please understand though, i work long 12 hour days in one of the busiest E.R.'s in the country, so sometimes i can't get on here to answer questions in a timely fashion at times. So, don't be discouraged if i don't answer right away once in a while. ![]() Thanks for understanding all, and now i'll get to answering those questions. | |||
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The 1-Androsterone from our 1-T product is also contained in the formula. Combined together with the estra-4-9 diene-3, 17-dione in a transdermal delivery, it poises to be one fairly potent product. The benefits of transdermal delivery are significant in many regards. -Decreased incidence and significance of hepatic stress -Enhanced overall absorbtion of bioavailable actives -Evades the hepatic first-pass-effect that can degrade compounds significantly | ||||
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We won't be at the arnold this year, but it may certainly be a reality come this time next year. | ||||
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I can’t image it being anymore than 8-10% just based on the molecular structure of the compound. -Eric | ||||
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1-T does do well to stack with another anabolic compound though. -Eric | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | A few options with our new product: 1-T Tren 1-T Tren Twin Pack 1-T Tren Case Xtreme Hardcore Muscle Stack | |||
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However, after looking at what it would cost, it actually does looks cheaper to do it with 1-T Tren rather than 1-T + oral Tren. So, yeah, guess it does "make sense" from that standpoint too. ![]() Nice work. | ||||
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Lymphatic delivery is another option, but ideals of actual absorbtion are speculative at best. Effective and sufficient enteral (oral) absorbtion, and subsequent systemic delivery of ANY compound or medication is far more complicated than most people think. Transdermal based substances are utilized for the immense benefits they offer in general. Better typical absorbtion of said compounds in general (those without methylation), less compound degradation overall (which can result secondary to the hepatic first-pass effect), and without a doubt, achieving better results with a significantly less hepatic stress effect (That in itself is worth its weight in gold, trust me.) Give it a whirl, i think you'll be impressed. | ||||
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![]() | I am really stoked about 1-T and 1-T Tren, but I can't decide which way to go yet. Are we going to hear any info from the test subjects? What kind of gains did they get from 1-T Tren? Which product did they like better? | |||
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I can't wait to see the logs on you're product. I want to run this stuff to get ready for my 20 year High School reunion in June. Gots to look good for it baby. | ||||
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