Primordial Performance's 1-T question thread!

[Trauma1]

Ok guys, here it is. I'd like you all to post up your questions specifically in regard to our 1-T product. This will help to consolidate the specific questions and answers for you all making it easier for everyone in review.

Now with that being said, post'em up!

[AndreAnabolic]

is 1T safe to take at 19 y/o...... and does it need PCT afterwards....this is the first time ive looked into it.

[Primordial Perf]

is 1T safe to take at 19 y/o...... and does it need PCT afterwards....this is the first time ive looked into it.

1T and age?

-Eric

[Trauma1]

is 1T safe to take at 19 y/o...... and does it need PCT afterwards....this is the first time ive looked into it.

This is a topic that will forever be debated among people. If you want my personal opinion on it, i say wait until you're 21. I say this for many reasons as well. Speaking from my own personal experiences, i made VERY impressive gains up to the age of 25 with nothing more than protein powder and creatine. It's important to have a very solid foundation of diet and training in order to truly maximize your own natural potential, and create a solid fundamental foundation to build off in the future.

We have plenty of products that i would recommend someone at your age utilizing though. Our IBCAA, Beta-Alanine, Phyto-Test, and Creatine Monohydrate products would be a great addition to helping your achieve that natural potential.

There is plenty of time for you to dabble in products like our 1-T formulation. At 19, you have an enormous amount of natural testosterone that will help your make very commendable gains. That's my opinion anyway, and i wish you the best in accomplishing your goals. If you have any questions that i can help you with, please feel free to ask at anytime.


Here's the products i was talking about for you to look over:

Beta Alanine

IBCAA

Creatine Creapure

Phyto-Testosterone

[AndreAnabolic]

i definately understand the fact that i have tons of natural test, but what would happen if i took it, im asking this just because my knowledge on prohormones isnt too great. would my natural test just not go back to normal?

[Trauma1]

i definately understand the fact that i have tons of natural test, but what would happen if i took it, im asking this just because my knowledge on prohormones isnt too great. would my natural test just not go back to normal?

Here on AM there is a wealth of knowledge on everything from training, diet, and Prohormone/A.A.S. discussion. First and foremost, i recommend reading around the board and gaining a good basic knowlege in that regard.


As far as 1-T goes, it will shut down your natural test production over time. The degree of that will certainly vary among users for many different reasons. It's important to upregulate your own natural test production upon cessation of any suppressive androgen. That period is called the "Post Cycle Therapy." Your body will naturally upregulate your own test production again, but the post cycle therapy period is geared towards utilizing supplements to minimizing the loss of your newly acquired gains by helping to expedite the increase in your natural test levels while your body gets back on track.

I feel at your age you will make great gains by utilizing the fundamental basics of supplementation/diet/training in an effort to build a solid framework to then greatly expand on in the future. Far too many people fore-go that inital step, and they end up regretting it in the end. Getting "big" requires not only sufficient dedication and knowledge, but also time and patience. I base my recommendation on the importance of a solid training and nutrition program first. I know this isn't probably what you wanted to hear, but i'm really saying this with your best interest at heart.

[luclyluciano]

Is there any use/benefit in dosing 1-T at say....1-2 pumps per day.
I have used Dermacrine at this dosage with some good results and wondering if 1-T could be the same. I don't want to get much bigger just more toned and boost in strength.

P.S. I am 46 yrs old, in great shape, lifting for 10 yrs. I'm on 3rd day of 1 pump per day and I do notice a difference already in muscle fullness and muscle response.

Lucky

[silverSurfer]

Would it be wrong to ask this here: Primordial's 1-T vs. pre-ban 1-T - soliciting feedback from whose who've used both ?

[Primordial Perf]

Is there any use/benefit in dosing 1-T at say....1-2 pumps per day.
I have used Dermacrine at this dosage with some good results and wondering if 1-T could be the same. I don't want to get much bigger just more toned and boost in strength.

P.S. I am 46 yrs old, in great shape, lifting for 10 yrs. I'm on 3rd day of 1 pump per day and I do notice a difference already in muscle fullness and muscle response.

Lucky

I suppose this would be appropriate for you if you say that you noticed good results on only 1-2 pumps of Dermacrine. I would do at least 2 pumps per day to make it more worth your while though.

-Eric

[Trauma1]

Is there any use/benefit in dosing 1-T at say....1-2 pumps per day.
I have used Dermacrine at this dosage with some good results and wondering if 1-T could be the same. I don't want to get much bigger just more toned and boost in strength.

P.S. I am 46 yrs old, in great shape, lifting for 10 yrs. I'm on 3rd day of 1 pump per day and I do notice a difference already in muscle fullness and muscle response.

Lucky

It may in-fact offer some very subtle effects at that dosing. Are you using any other supplementation, or just the 1-T? How long do you plan on using at this dosing? If you've had some noteable success using dermacrine in a similar fashion, why not give it a try.

Let us know how it works out for you.

[luclyluciano]

It may in-fact offer some very subtle effects at that dosing. Are you using any other supplementation, or just the 1-T? How long do you plan on using at this dosing? If you've had some noteable success using dermacrine in a similar fashion, why not give it a try.

Let us know how it works out for you.

I guess I would finish the bottle. I feel my muscles more responsive and flexing without effort. Any harm in prolonging the cycle. I noticed a thread somewhere re: small doses of m-drol...5mgs per day in the AM. (I know m-drol is harsh)

[Trauma1]

I guess I would finish the bottle. I feel my muscles more responsive and flexing without effort. Any harm in prolonging the cycle. I noticed a thread somewhere re: small doses of m-drol...5mgs per day in the AM. (I know m-drol is harsh)

The way you're dosing should significantly reduce the significance of overall suppression, so i don't see a problem with it. You may want to run a test booster at the conclusion of the 1-T for a few weeks to err on the side of caution.

This is a totally different beast than m-drol, and much safer overall.

[MorningMetal]

Would it be effective to run the sustain alpha WITH the 1-T to minimize natural test suppression? Want to minimize, if not prevent shutdown.

[Trauma1]

Would it be effective to run the sustain alpha WITH the 1-T to minimize natural test suppression? Want to minimize, if not prevent shutdown.

Sure! - It can certainly help to minimize shutdown while on cycle. We recommend a 3 days on/3 days off protocol in that regard.

Check out this thread as well:

Prevent Testicular Shrinkage with a New Legal hCG Alternative -- 7,8 Benzoflavone

[MorningMetal]

Just ordered the HMS. Too good of an offer to pass up. 150... jeez.

OK, here's the situation, and I'm really hoping you guys can help me out with the most effective way to to this; just ordered the HMS, and I have a Epistane/Oxyguno stack that should be here tomorrow(stocking up for the next few months). Anyway, I chose epi/oxy because of the minimal shutdown I should have.(Epi is light, and oxy supposedly has no sides)
So now i'm thinking, would it be effective(and safe, of course) to just include 1-T, and run the Sustain Alpha alongside it all to prevent natural test suppression? Is there a better way to run this, or spread this out maybe? Can someone suggest something? Help/suggestions would be much appreciated.

[Primordial Perf]

Just ordered the HMS. Too good of an offer to pass up. 150... jeez.

OK, here's the situation, and I'm really hoping you guys can help me out with the most effective way to to this; just ordered the HMS, and I have a Epistane/Oxyguno stack that should be here tomorrow(stocking up for the next few months). Anyway, I chose epi/oxy because of the minimal shutdown I should have.(Epi is light, and oxy supposedly has no sides)
So now i'm thinking, would it be effective(and safe, of course) to just include 1-T, and run the Sustain Alpha alongside it all to prevent natural test suppression? Is there a better way to run this, or spread this out maybe? Can someone suggest something? Help/suggestions would be much appreciated.

I would stack the 3 items you have and run them no longer than 6 weeks. You can run the Sustain during this time too at the 3 on, 3 off protocol like Trauma pointed out.

-Eric

[jsp0785]

better to use 5 pumps after morning shower or 2 pumps after morning shower and 3 pumps post workout shower? or does 1-t have over a 24 hour half life?

[jsp0785]

so i started 1-t yesterday and just ordered havoc to stack with it today... should i run the havoc as soon as i get it? my guess would be to run it he last 4 weeks of the 1-t but i could be completely wrong... which has never happened before but u never know

[bslick69b]

better to use 5 pumps after morning shower or 2 pumps after morning shower and 3 pumps post workout shower? or does 1-t have over a 24 hour half life?

i would not suggest splitting up the doses/application,unless your post-w/o shower is at least six hours after your first application.

[Steveoph]

so i started 1-t yesterday and just ordered havoc to stack with it today... should i run the havoc as soon as i get it? my guess would be to run it he last 4 weeks of the 1-t but i could be completely wrong... which has never happened before but u never know

Trauma ran it the 1st 5 weeks, Trauma1 and Poopypants team up for a PP/1-T and Epi/1-T log! . Ill let John/Slick give you their opinions, but you could run it as soon as you get it if you want.