1-T PCT for someone who is Gyno prone
- 01-11-2009, 12:46 AM
1-T PCT for someone who is Gyno prone
I just ordered the Hardcore Muscle Stack which is the 2 bottles of 1-T with Sustain, Endoamp, and Toco-8 for PCT.
This will be my first use of a pro hormone, and I just wanted to make sure that I don't need a SERM. I've had pubertal gyno and had surgery to remove most of the glandular tissue so my nipples are normal now. However since some of the tissue remains, wouldn't this make me prone to the glands regrowing if I use anything hormonal?
Should I take an Anti-E on the 1-t cycle and have some Nolva on hand for the SERM?
Also, does it matter if I start the 1-t cycle directly after I've taken a Mass FX and Hyperdrol X2 (has 6-Bromo) stack for 8 weeks.
- 01-11-2009, 01:03 PM
wait another 8 weeks to clean out receptors because divanil can cause gyno problems, as for 1-t is anti-estrogenic which means it can not convert to estrogen. During pct, use 50-100mg of 6-bromo or ATD if you want to be safe, sustain alpha also contains trans-reservatrol and 7,8 benszofavone which have anti-estrogenic properties as well. Endoamp will help cut down cortisol secretion, which is beneficial to maintaining gains.board supporter
- 01-12-2009, 11:12 AM
01-12-2009, 11:37 AM
01-12-2009, 02:09 PM
01-12-2009, 07:20 PM
01-12-2009, 07:39 PM
it also has a.i properties!
01-12-2009, 09:17 PM
01-12-2009, 11:15 PM
Recently, it was discovered that 4-hydroxy-4-androstene-3,17-dione, 4-androstene-3,6,17-trione, and 1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione, compounds previously reported to be competitive inhibitors of aromatase.
01-13-2009, 09:32 AM
01-13-2009, 03:23 PM
androsterone is an AI and becomes a anti-estrogenic prohormone at high dosages.
01-13-2009, 04:17 PM
01-13-2009, 04:26 PM
its an AI at a smaller dosage, at higher dosage it becomes a prohormone, its a derived steroid hormone from DHEA.
01-13-2009, 07:25 PM
01-13-2009, 08:34 PM
but otherwise i agree!!
EDIT: after seeing looking at the nomeclature 1 androsterone. is NOT an AI, ive been going back and forth trying to find the study (that LG uses) that shows androsterone is an AI, but to no avail have i seen it.
01-13-2009, 08:40 PM
01-13-2009, 10:13 PM
01-13-2009, 10:29 PM
01-22-2009, 05:16 PM
01-22-2009, 05:24 PM
dude i remember when you was trying to start siht with pistonpump awhile back!..trying to provoke him,and at the end you said a little number like"what kind of a rep are you blah,blah,blah,!..and then when he started to bark back at you.you started to use "oh your a rep,you cant talk to people like that!..whats up bro?..you got a problem with me?
01-22-2009, 05:32 PM
future pilots a nice dude, i dont think he has a problem with you but maybe with the research behind the product that hes not seeing evidence on. not your fault, but because its in one of the products i guess he expects you guys to come up with an article of its actions.
01-22-2009, 05:59 PM
i may have made a mistake by saying 1-androsterone instead of androsterone!
Androsterone is a natural metabolite in the body that reduces estrogen which increases testosterone and is proven to reduce aromatase (that nasty enzyme that turns your hard earned testosterone into UGLY estrogen. It also is a 5aReduced androgen, which as a class have been shown to be potant neuro-stimulants. Neuro-stimulants don't get you wired, they make you more alert, aggressive and intense. So, Androsterone has published studies showing that it can reduce aromatase and increase mental intensity.
01-22-2009, 08:33 PM
Plus, 5a-reduced metabolites are also going to antagonize the estrogen receptor directly and combat estrgenic effects. [Especially DHT, and androsterone to a lesser extent]
01-22-2009, 08:48 PM
Bottom line is you dont know what your talking about. And you represent a company, so get get twice as much shit as just the average person.
01-22-2009, 08:49 PM
then expect to get the same from me!
01-22-2009, 08:56 PM
I've seen that mentioned in steriod profiles, but never any studies. You guys dont have any do you? The only thing I've seen that refers to metabolites antagonizing is herpes and encephalitis.
01-22-2009, 09:07 PM
01-22-2009, 09:11 PM
01-22-2009, 09:14 PM
01-22-2009, 09:18 PM
Bump for a PP rep who knows what their talking about.
it was just a continuation to this beauty you posted^^^^...whats up?..no A.A forum any more,so your expanding now?
01-22-2009, 09:19 PM
guys this is childish eric answered the question.
its not a direct AI but indirect because its 5a reduced which will antagonize the ER ...
the only problem i see with that is like all other DHT derivitives increase PR expression and lead to prolactin. but because Androsterone is soo weak it shouldnt be a problem
01-22-2009, 09:23 PM
01-22-2009, 09:27 PM
01-22-2009, 09:34 PM
01-23-2009, 01:06 PM
A lot of people have claimed that 5a-reduced metabolites are direct aromatase inhibitors, but I have not seen evidence of this.
You would need to be slightly cautious with 1-T if you have pre-existing gyno conditions. In this case, an AI such as Arom-X wouldn’t be a bad idea.
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