- 10-13-2008, 07:52 PM
- 10-13-2008, 08:08 PM
i think its coming in like a month they said!
i hope they have testers, because i would love to apply!
- 10-18-2008, 11:22 PM
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10-22-2008, 01:02 PM
1 bottle should be a 25 day supply unless you’re a maniac and turn it to a 14 day supply. Relative to the dose/effect that you will be getting from the product it will be very “affordable”. We are aiming at $69 per bottle right now.
NP may also carry the product but don’t expect it to be any cheaper there. We will have a minimal markup on this product to keep it in a reasonable price range.
BTW, it’s going to be called 1-T.
10-22-2008, 01:11 PM
10-22-2008, 04:44 PM
Ingredient Profile? Expected gains/sides? is Sustain Alpha enough for PCT? Will you maybe sell a stack of 1-t, derma, and sustain?
10-22-2008, 04:55 PM
10-22-2008, 05:27 PM
i'll pick up a stack for sure! I'm on dermacrine and dermatherm and seeing really good results. Bump for the write up.
10-22-2008, 08:01 PM
We are thinking about doing a package deal with Sustain Alpha… or maybe a double bottle deal for the T-1.
If you are only doing a 4 week cycle of anything, Sustain is enough for PCT. If you start going longer than that then we recommend Toco-8 and possibly hCG or other sups depending on the length of the cycle.
10-22-2008, 08:01 PM
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10-23-2008, 01:03 PM
10-23-2008, 02:39 PM
That is going to be a really nice product...I would do one with a Epi/1-Andro blend for people that want dry strength.
10-23-2008, 02:55 PM
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10-25-2008, 01:07 AM
well this sounds GREAT... too bad it also sound fairly high priced when compared to other hormonal options.
10-25-2008, 11:20 AM
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10-25-2008, 04:48 PM
NOW tell me again why this wont need any support supps???Originally Posted by http://www.primordialperformance.com/vbulletin/primordial-health/441-topical-1-androsterone-product-coming.html#post2765
This WILL still eventully make it through the liver and although it was no M1T the original 1-AD DID in fact stress the liver and more so the kidneys. This will still be filtered by BOTH of these organs and possibly at an even higher rate for the kidneys considering more will make it through the Dermis then will make it through the gut when taken orally.
High BP was also common with the first 1-AD thus hawthorne berry is recommended and BACK PUMPS from the 1-AD and 4-AD combo (which this mimics being 1-DHEA and DHEA) were pretty extreme as well so something like Taurine and Poseidon would be recommended.
This again like I said IS a great thing to see, it will be a potent combo, BUT no more or less then the current designers out now and with the exact same risks, restrictions and supports.... just a lil too expensive for my taste.
10-25-2008, 04:50 PM
10-25-2008, 05:22 PM
As far as support supps, yes 1-T will be suppressive to the HPTA. But that is true of any exogenous hormone. Anytime you take exogenous hormones, you will need PCT. But with those that are susceptible to aromatase, you will ALSO need an AI.
I'm sure Eric has taken the DHEA into consideration and that it is either not a concern or has been accounted for with an internal AI just as they use chrysin in Dermacrine. Either way, the statement that you won't need other support supplements is accurate.
10-25-2008, 05:33 PM
Well you dont know very much then.... its not JUST the attachment of an ether or methylation of a compound that can cause liver toxicity and again EVERYTHING in your blood is filtered by you liver and kidneys, this will be no exception. Like I said some people DID see changes in their liver values with 1-AD at the same time some people saw ZERO changes with superdrol in liver values... everyone is different and your best off to be better safe then sorry.
Also did you not even read my post? BP and back pumps, as well as acne are all still sides that will have to be treated with an electrolyte and amino substance (poseidon, Taurine, BCAA's) and HB for your BP.... most would also prefer to supp with b vitamins to help with the skin and acne..... most of this could be taken care of by one simple supp like Cycle support. Needless to say this is the same with EVERY cycle and this is no exception.
I just dont think you should come in here preaching bout something you know nothing about, this isnt a candy to just pop or lotion to rub on and then forget, this is just as serious as any AAS and was stated so by its manufacturer so why you want to argue that point IDK. Just dont sit here and mislead others into not protecting themselves when other wise they may have.
10-25-2008, 05:37 PM
When comparing the side-effects to other products on the market [progestin based gyno, nausea, reduced appetite, ect] we also feel that the side-effects from 1-T will be very minor and much more acceptable.
10-25-2008, 05:46 PM
its just the cost to me comparatively with other designers being 1/3rd the price... just feel hard pressed to make a purchase of that sort.
I do wish you all the luck and am most certain it will sell out as NO ONE does TD's any more and this one especially holds promise, sadly just not on poops "to do" list with my current finances.
10-25-2008, 05:46 PM
yeah, it sounds great eric (by the way i received my dermacrine and recovery stack yesterday, thanks!).
i'm a little bit apprehensive that EIC is advising no supports supps alongside 1-T, moreover, i'm alarmed that he has already established some reputation with 71 posts given his advice. poopypants, thanks for setting the record straight. im with you on this one.
10-25-2008, 05:48 PM
I don’t think EIC is here to mislead anyone, just pointing out the fact that the 1-T will be a little less harsh than the methylated products on the market, and less troublesome for gyno than the exotic progesterone based anabolics.
Anyway, what is your reason for recommending Poseidon and taurine for back pumps?
10-25-2008, 05:58 PM
i also agree he is not trying to mislead anyone but he should just chose his words a little more carefully.
as fair as gains go, do you expect 1-T to be much more dramatic than dermacrine?
10-25-2008, 06:15 PM
Taurine has always been suggested as a remedy for preventing back pumps as it allows more water to be absorbed into the muscle cell and keep it from being leached. The same is my reasoning for using Poseidon or an electrolyte supplement in order to keep the muscle cells well hydrated and less likely to cramp (pump) up and cause pain, I have used Taurine with some effect (had to dose extremely high) and Poseidon with much better results.
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