[bigironkiller]

right now im able to deadlift 445 with a overhand grip. it is getting harder to hold on to the bar so i bought straps that i havent used. would it be better to use a mixed grip before relying on the straps??

[pmiller383]

Yeah, Just use a hook grip unless you are going high reps then the straps will help more then changing grips.

[jcp2]

If i was not going to compete i would wear straps and stay over over. If competing was in your future i would go over under.

[bigironkiller]

well, i threw on the straps today and pulled 475. 20lbs more than i was hoping for, so ill stick with the straps.

[futurepilot]

I would keep in mind that when you use an over under grip your putting a HUGE load on one bicep, while almost totally excluding the other.

I personally dont do a mixed grip anymore. Even if your strapped in theres a higher chance of injury, than having both palms facing you..

[Rodja]

I use an overhand grip with straps when going for singles for muscular balance. Anything >90% of my 1RM get straps, but I use chalk on the other sets.

[bigironkiller]

thanks for the advice guys. dont like the sound of the over under grips, so i will stay with over and straps. by the end of june im hoping to pull 500 and squat 455.

[jcp2]

Do not use and over under with straps. You put your bicep in a very bad position, much worse than an over under without straps. I know you said you didn't just wanted to clarify to everyone.

[bigironkiller]

every time i have my max deadlift day, i always end up with what feels like a pinched nerve or disk in my lower right back, right on top of the hip. it doesnt hurt, but is uncomfortable. i can usually stretch it out, but since friday it just doesnt want to go away. any specific stretch i could do to relieve the pressure???

[jcp2]

Originally Posted by bigironkiller

every time i have my max deadlift day, i always end up with what feels like a pinched nerve or disk in my lower right back, right on top of the hip. it doesnt hurt, but is uncomfortable. i can usually stretch it out, but since friday it just doesnt want to go away. any specific stretch i could do to relieve the pressure???

I get the exact same thing. I go to the chiro and get ART/chiro to fix it. My hips twist a bit after lifting a while. I think i get it from lifting out of mono with a wide stance.

[bigironkiller]

thanks, i have a good chiro that only charges 35/visit, but was looking for something i could do myself.

[Rodja]

I apply capzacin cream to my lower back about 90 minutes before I do deads. By the time I get to my max sets, I am sweating and the heat from the cream really keeps my erectors loose. Zero problems since I started doing this.

[pmiller383]

Originally Posted by Rodja

I apply capzacin cream to my lower back about 90 minutes before I do deads. By the time I get to my max sets, I am sweating and the heat from the cream really keeps my erectors loose. Zero problems since I started doing this.

I am going to try that Rodja, Nice idea.

[spigot]

Originally Posted by Rodja

I apply capzacin cream to my lower back about 90 minutes before I do deads. By the time I get to my max sets, I am sweating and the heat from the cream really keeps my erectors loose. Zero problems since I started doing this.

Isn't capsaicin the chemical responsibile for chili hotness? Weird name for a medication.

Anyway, I always use a left under, right over grip for deadlifts. I only go over over when doing straightleg deadlifts. I've been doing under over grip from about 205 pounds up to now and I'm at about 350-360 max. I never feel any muscular imbalance or discomfort, and when I'm sore the next day, it's perfectly even on both sides of my body.

I don't know how bicep stress becomes applied in the deadlift, but I've never once activated either bicep or had either bicep become sore the next day... Sounds like someone is doing something wrong?

[pmiller383]

Originally Posted by spigot

Isn't capsaicin the chemical responsibile for chili hotness? Weird name for a medication.

Anyway, I always use a left under, right over grip for deadlifts. I only go over over when doing straightleg deadlifts. I've been doing under over grip from about 205 pounds up to now and I'm at about 350-360 max. I never feel any muscular imbalance or discomfort, and when I'm sore the next day, it's perfectly even on both sides of my body.

I don't know how bicep stress becomes applied in the deadlift, but I've never once activated either bicep or had either bicep become sore the next day... Sounds like someone is doing something wrong?

Capsaicain is what makes pepper hot, it is also a potent thermogenic.

You should switch grips so you don't overdevelop one side, different muscles are used for different grips.

Every time you deadlift you are using your bicep, the reason it is not sore is because you are not directly targeting it like you would during curls or something. Any pulling motion is going to involve your biceps to a certain degree, thats just human kinetics.

[spigot]

Originally Posted by pmiller383

Capsaicain is what makes pepper hot, it is also a potent thermogenic.

You should switch grips so you don't overdevelop one side, different muscles are used for different grips.

Every time you deadlift you are using your bicep, the reason it is not sore is because you are not directly targeting it like you would during curls or something. Any pulling motion is going to involve your biceps to a certain degree, thats just human kinetics.

Well both biceps are the exact circumference at 16.5 inches. Both biceps have the exact same strength. Both biceps are 100% limp during a deadlift pull. Until I get any imbalances, I think I'll continue. And I've been deadlifting for around 2 years about once every week or 2.

There is no elbow flexion at all, or there shouldn't be, in the deadlift. Now maybe if you were talking about the brachialis or brachioradialis I could understand a little because they help keep the elbow stable, but I couldn't fathom any amount of bicep activation in my personal deadlifts whatsoever.