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| Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego
Stats: 5'5" 140 lbs
Posts: 3,219
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Any one herd of versagripps I currently use straps and hooks but was wondering about this option. http://www.versagripps.com/cart/inde...t&pod_cat_id=1 | |||
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| Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2007
Stats: 5'10" 215 lbs
Posts: 8,802
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Just a thought... I used to get little red dots in my hands from my straps cutting off the blood at my wrist or blocking the return of blood flow from my hands back up arm when I handled serious tonage. I thought if I kept lifting I'd have to amputate (not really, but it didn't look healthy). That doesn't happen with my Versa Grips. I accredit a lot of my back gains to them. Can't lift the weight if you can't hold it. | |||
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| Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2007
Stats: 5'10" 215 lbs
Posts: 8,802
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hooks bend if you're consistently pulling serious weight. My hooks ripped right out of the wrist strap. Plus hooks seem to rely more on your forearm extensors then your forearm flexors to hold the weight. Your flexors are a lot more proficient at being your foundation of strength for holding weight. I have nothing against straps, they were my meat & potatoes of grip capability for years, but these Versa Grips are in a whole different category of efficiency. They rely primarily on flexor strength and just speaking for myself, my ability to handle heavier weight increased dramatically compared to my good ol harbinger straps. I highly, HIGHLY recommend them. | |||
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| Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hiroshima Age: 31
Stats: 6'0" 225 lbs
Posts: 4,064
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | What are you guys using these for? Heavy shrugs or rack pulls? Personally I say use them as needed, but I'd slowly work your grip up to where you don't need them much anymore. Double overhand deadlifts would help or get a rolling thunder (this is a basically a thick handle, 2'' to 2.5'' in diameter, that you can hang weights from to do holds for time). You can build up grip quickly. | |||
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| Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2007
Stats: 5'10" 215 lbs
Posts: 8,802
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'd have to agree that having natural grip strength is optimal, but unless you're in a powerlifting competition where straps aren't alllowed... well, for instance, doing a dead lift single pull is a reasonable goal to reach without grips. Me pulling 405 for 10 reps, my grip may NEVER reach that level necessary to do so naturally, unless I have juiced out Ronnie Coleman grip strength. When it comes to building my back, that's where my concentration is, my back, not my forearms. However, with that said, I am definitely FOR having natural grip strength, which is why I have a day where I just work my forearms, forearm flexors, extensors and brachioradialus. I would only suggest straps for back days, people who strap for curls I think are depending on them way too much. P.S. I tried shrugging 5 plates last night WITH straps and I still couldn't hang on. So you still need a strong level of natural grip strength to handle major tonage with the help of straps, or in my case, Versa Grips. Just to be clear, I am a major advocate of not just natural grip strength, but huge & powerful forearms. When I see people in the gym, it's the girth and shape of their forearms I measure up before their guns, but I am also without a doubt, pro straps when necessary, and back days for me, are ALWAYS necessary . | |||
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| Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hiroshima Age: 31
Stats: 6'0" 225 lbs
Posts: 4,064
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I used to have trouble with grip at around 7 rep at 405 on deads, but after working my grip I can hold 435 in my hands (one supinated) for 60+ seconds without touching the ground doing touch n go reps the whole time. I bet you can build up your grip to a much higher level too. Here's that rolling thunder thing that I was talking about: ![]() Rolling Thunder® Revolving Deadlift Handle-Ironmind Enterprises | ||||
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| Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hiroshima Age: 31
Stats: 6'0" 225 lbs
Posts: 4,064
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Sorry, I wasn't clear. This is just a handle that you can hang weight from to work on your grip. The handle is really wide so that you can't interlock your fingers and thumb. It will get your grip strength up quickly. I have a friend that has one, and we just hang 75-100# on there and hold on as long as we can with each hand to build up grip strength. I also do strongman so grip strength is a necessity. | |||
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| Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2007
Stats: 5'10" 215 lbs
Posts: 8,802
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hats off to ya man, that's some serious dedication to grip strength. You could probably choke a buffalo to sleep with that. That fat grip concept can build some major isometric strength, good stuff. | |||
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| Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego
Stats: 5'5" 140 lbs
Posts: 3,219
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Love them. I used them today for the 1st time. My grip was awesome. Did I lift heavier? Not sure. I am logging yellow from controlled labs. I know my grip did not slip out but as far as heavier? Not sure. | |||
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| Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2007
Stats: 5'10" 215 lbs
Posts: 8,802
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