For squats does going low help with muscle development or people who do 3/4 squats, for example, losing out on more than just form?
this is a constant argument between bb and plers. but in my experience the lower you go the harder it is and the more sore yuo can get. plus once you break parallel you are using more muscles like hammies, glutes and all that good stuff. imo always go below parallel, it's a whole body lift
Yeah, I go below but I see guys with big legs do 'incorrect squats' and always wondered if it was more genetics helping them along or if you could get the same benefit from not dropping as low.
their quads are strong, but have them drop below parrallel and i bet they couldnt do half the weight, the hammies wouldnt be able to handle the load
I agree. There is this dynamic duo in my gym who squat pretty heavy weights but don't even hit parallel and they are all excited, out of breath and high fiving each other like retards...... I am not so sure what they are all excited about... oh and by the way, their calves are like tooth picks... hahaha
This was brought up recently on another forum that isn't even for weightlifting, the general feeling by them was that using the full range of movement is bad form because it can cause joint pain, I personally feel if you're going to do squats you may aswell do the full range and if you then want to add 3/4 movement afterwards then fine. Full range = maximum muscle use and that's what I'm going for.
Hey! Don't make fun, mine are tiny too and my thighs are good size, poor genetics on my part.Originally Posted by Ronin13
Sorry man. Not poking fun at genetics. They just come in and do everything upper body with good form and then these half azz squats and no calf work at all... triceps and shoulders are huge though... go figure.
Originally Posted by PVSkyHigh
ROFLMAOOriginally Posted by Ronin13
You can do partial range squats, use the box. Just raise the box 4-5 holes above your typical height (should usually be 1 hole below parallel). Works well when you're training in briefs with a load that is hard to work all the way down.
As far as bodybuilding goes, doing partial squats with extra weight like that is putting more stress on the core than anything else. Not what most bodybuilders want. Easy way to rack up back and shoulder injuries too.
Proper form vs. muscle gain question
Depends if you are trying to work yout quads, your hamstrings or both
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I alternate. Lighter weights below parallel one day, heavier weights less than parallel another with extra SLDL's and lunges to hit the hammies and glutes. Doing squats at 3/4's is much better than doing no squats and sitting on your ass at home watching TV and eating potato chips IMO.
My gym has those people as well. I was watching a guy who kept loading more and more plates but would just go down about 4 inches, he stopped at 4 plates per side. He seemed all proud of it. Now I actually get compliments from the local pros for my squat form (ATG style) so I guess im doing something right.Originally Posted by Ronin13
The only ones that I could really recognize were Kaz and Dr. Squat Fred Hatfield. Tom Platz was a beast.Originally Posted by cubbybear
For squats I go to parallel or a bit below. I'm more concerned with putting the pressure on my hamstrings and glutes and not my quads, so I tend to sit back a bit more when I squat. Of course, going to a commercial gym, I love the stares I get when I use the power rack for what it was actually made for.
Originally Posted by bpmartyr
I do almost this. In a 7-8 day period I try to hit legs twice, one time going heavy as possible to around top-of-the-quad parallel with the ground to alittle past that, and one time going lighter weight pause squats with the bottom (where the pause happens on the safety bars) being the absolute lowest possible stance I can go. I try to keep all reps to 4-6 per set, and work up to around 5-6 sets.
The light pause squat day definately helps increase lagging hammys/glutes if need be as well as improving flexibility for getting a nice low squat (I like going with a wider stance...not sumo, but not shoulder width either), and the heavy day is, well, the meat and potatoes.
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You mean barbell curls, rightOriginally Posted by UHCougar05
+1Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
I don't see the point of doing squats any other way. You are trying to build LEG strength...which to me means the entire leg.
For someone who's have chronic lower back injuries, i find it extremely difficult to go below or even to parallel on the squat. Every time i get close to parallel, i can feel something about to pull even with relatively light weight. In this circumstance would going to 3/8 be better then doing nothing at all?