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    Power lifters and BF%


    I'm trying to figure out if there's a benefit to having a very high BF % in power lifting or if it's just easier for the big guys to get into that area of lifting?

    I notice some pretty obese people power lifting and so much time and effort is put into lifting technique and proper lifting gear and wrapping joints etc, to maximize safety and minimize injury. But heavy lifting while supplemented(seems most take some form of PH or equivalent),and with a BF% that already puts you at a super high risk for all kinds of complications from back to heart. Why isn't there more people saying lose the excess fat and then bulk up a bit cleaner so to stay healthy?

    Is it because we don't like calling people out or is there an actual benefit where with the increased strength and muscle makes the increased fat a much lesser health risk?

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    I think you are more likely to get injured lifting super heavy weights if you are a very low body fat % lever, versus lifting the same weight at a higher bodyfat level. I think the fat helps cushion the bones, and even though we often think of fat as "jiggly", in some cases it might actually be providing stability. I agree with you that it causes numerous health problems though. I know that when I am making my way to new weight levels, sooner or later my blood pressure starts to rise. It goes back down once my body gets used to the new weight, or when I cut, but still someone my age (20) having to be on beta-blockers and ace inhibitors is a bit crazy
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    Yeah, i'm really talking about the 25-30+%BF guys.
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    from what i've seen, most powerlifters don't know the first thing about diet. here's a shining example with the story of dave tate (very well known in the powerlifting community):
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=971737

    and the followup:
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...51590&pageNo=0
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    Before Garry Frank put up his 2800 he was only eating around 4,000 calories.... and a lot of them where from Chocolate tacos.... once he got his nutrition straight, he added 400 lbs to his total... so there ya go.... did I mention he lowered his bf% but had to stay about the same weight, because his lifting gear wouldn't have fit as snug. Fat allows a Pl'er support from their suits and it cushions certain body parts and bones...


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    I was lookin at those vids Beelz and you guys are in the area that I think is the way to go as far as fat and such. Just seems I see more and more people lately who totally disregard the healthy part. Thanks for that story link. It says what I was thnking.
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    on MMI? there's a fair share of 'hefties' there as well but most have come to terms with hoping to live past 40 and have dropped down to the 308 class. i refuse to exceed 275 ever again.
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    Hope you didn't come up with this thread after watching my latest vids..

    I having a hard time shedding pounds lately... I know about diet, but implementing it is another matter.

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    actually go to a powerlifting meet and tell me how many guys with high body fat you see, not too many that are under the 308 class. here is some pictures of the guys who won the wpo this year, they're far from fat

    chuck vogelpohl - heavyweight(308)

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    matt kroczaleski - middlweight champ 225

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    there's always exceptions, just like marius i'm sure jay is referring mostly to the superheavies with 30%+ bf.
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    oleksandr kutcher - lightweight 185(this guy is a beast)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    there's always exceptions, just like marius i'm sure jay is referring mostly to the superheavies with 30%+ bf.
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    well those guys are just walking houses, i'm 5'10 300+ and i saw mike miller at the arnold and he made me look like a dwarf
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    yeah, he's like 390lbs or so i believe. lattimer is in the low 400's. and that other squat guy was close to 500lbs if memory serves me correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    yeah, he's like 390lbs or so i believe. lattimer is in the low 400's. and that other squat guy was close to 500lbs if memory serves me correctly.

    miller is in the mid 400's. and the squat guy was jeff lewis, and he hit a 1212 squat at the arnold and ended up winning the heavyweights, he's like 550 something

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    fwiw, miller checked in at the nerb at 390lbs on the dot.

    yeah, jeff lewis, that's the guy. the squat is crazy and it's something i can't fathom feeling that much on my back, but to weigh 550lbs.......ridiculous.
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    Nah, the pictures that you are showing are what I think of when it comes to power lifters. That last guy is an example of what I was posting about though. Using his current strength etc shouldn't be used as a reason for letting yourself get to that point. It's that mentality that ****s up BBr's. Eh, who cares what the future problems wil be when you're shredded to the bone now.

    I think I got across what I was trying to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    fwiw, miller checked in at the nerb at 390lbs on the dot.

    yeah, jeff lewis, that's the guy. the squat is crazy and it's something i can't fathom feeling that much on my back, but to weigh 550lbs.......ridiculous.

    and teamsniffy was there to catch it

    http://www.teamsniffy.com/videos/lif...flewis1212.wmv
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    Good lord...
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    Size Matters you have too eat big too be big,Thats it period
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    Where does that say, in that statement, you have to eat like **** and put your health at risk in the process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theragingbull
    Size Matters you have too eat big too be big,Thats it period

    is this the ragingbull from MMI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theragingbull
    Size Matters you have too eat big too be big,Thats it period
    tis very true, but being morbidly obese is not required.
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    You can eat big and still watch the fat intake I'm 6'5 265 pounds with a 10% bf with the help of my doctor I will reach
    my goal of 300 pounds this year.And my health is great,Just
    been to the doctor all vital signs are perfect.Everything is where it should be,So you do your diet and I will eat what I want.Remember SIZE MATTERS
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    RB (assuming you're the same),
    that's an incredible feat; however, we're referring to the jeff lewis's of the sport. he's not 10% bf. hell, it'd be a compliment to say 40-50% bf. the squat is ridiculous but where is the line drawn? health has to have some consideration.
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    Exactly, RB you're not even close to what i'm talking about. You guys are the bonus to the sport. Someone you can look at and want to attain. Hell watching Beelz is what got me wanting to actually pick up the PL routines. I wasn't trying to insult you guys.
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    hold up, let's solve something here first. theragingbull, are you the same as from MMI? i'm suspecting not.
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    No never heard of MMI,When I grow up I want to be like Beelzebub !








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    lol, um ok. welcome to the board strange ragingbull
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    Thanks for the welcome,And keep eating and remember size
    matters.I don't know about the rest of you but I got into
    lifting too be big and you have too eat to get there.


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    I'm not quite clear on what you're trying to say here...Something about remembering to rest and getting there by sizing your lifts?

    You might want to clarify the intent of that message as it comes in pretty damn vague.
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    All I want to know is these massively lean dudes at 208, even the guy at 225, is how much gear it takes to get that physique with those lift numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theragingbull
    Thanks for the welcome,And keep eating and remember size
    matters.I don't know about the rest of you but I got into
    lifting too be big and you have too eat to get there.


    Size Matters
    i don't believe anyone here is disputing that. of course you have to eat big to get big. but we also have calorie restrictions. eating big doesn't mean eating out of control. the subject of this thread is very clear - morbidly obese powerlifters and the health consequences of letting your bodyweight climb into the 400-500lbs range.
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    I don't get the high bodyfat thing either, who cares how much you can lift when you're on the verge of dying and look like a guest from the Jerry Springer show.
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    probably dependant on the time it took them to get there. I don't know enough about the sport to comment further but I wonder if there's a reason for the extra fat in power lifters on averafe or if the strict dieting to stay at some of those low levels are felt to be too restrictive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktw
    All I want to know is these massively lean dudes at 208, even the guy at 225, is how much gear it takes to get that physique with those lift numbers.
    blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.
    No, but it sure makes things a whole lot easier. Genetics or not, I'm sure some of those guys have fairly large drug regimens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.

    Beelze wanna argue that with ALR?

    j/k bro, I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktw
    No, but it sure makes things a whole lot easier. Genetics or not, I'm sure some of those guys have fairly large drug regimens.
    without a doubt. i've talked to a few with their cycles and some are absolutely ridiculous. but i've seen much worse with bodybuilders. guy at my gym is a national competitor in bb'ing and told me he takes anywhere from 1G-2G's per DAY, and he considers that small time to what the pros are taking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv8erJR
    Beelze wanna argue that with ALR?

    j/k bro, I agree

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    lol, no. it ain't worth arguing. how about this disclaimer: based on my observations.
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