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Old 05-24-2006, 06:24 PM   #31
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I'm not quite clear on what you're trying to say here...Something about remembering to rest and getting there by sizing your lifts?

You might want to clarify the intent of that message as it comes in pretty damn vague.
 



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Old 05-24-2006, 06:27 PM   #32
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All I want to know is these massively lean dudes at 208, even the guy at 225, is how much gear it takes to get that physique with those lift numbers.
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:29 PM   #33
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Thanks for the welcome,And keep eating and remember size
matters.I don't know about the rest of you but I got into
lifting too be big and you have too eat to get there.


Size Matters
i don't believe anyone here is disputing that. of course you have to eat big to get big. but we also have calorie restrictions. eating big doesn't mean eating out of control. the subject of this thread is very clear - morbidly obese powerlifters and the health consequences of letting your bodyweight climb into the 400-500lbs range.
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:29 PM   #34
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I don't get the high bodyfat thing either, who cares how much you can lift when you're on the verge of dying and look like a guest from the Jerry Springer show.
 
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probably dependant on the time it took them to get there. I don't know enough about the sport to comment further but I wonder if there's a reason for the extra fat in power lifters on averafe or if the strict dieting to stay at some of those low levels are felt to be too restrictive.
 



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All I want to know is these massively lean dudes at 208, even the guy at 225, is how much gear it takes to get that physique with those lift numbers.
blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.
 
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blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.
No, but it sure makes things a whole lot easier. Genetics or not, I'm sure some of those guys have fairly large drug regimens.
 
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blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.

Beelze wanna argue that with ALR?

j/k bro, I agree

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No, but it sure makes things a whole lot easier. Genetics or not, I'm sure some of those guys have fairly large drug regimens.
without a doubt. i've talked to a few with their cycles and some are absolutely ridiculous. but i've seen much worse with bodybuilders. guy at my gym is a national competitor in bb'ing and told me he takes anywhere from 1G-2G's per DAY, and he considers that small time to what the pros are taking.
 
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Beelze wanna argue that with ALR?

j/k bro, I agree

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lol, no. it ain't worth arguing. how about this disclaimer: based on my observations.
 
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Extremes in anything as a bad thing. I've seen too many strong assed big guys to make me believe that with hard work and proper training you can't be a sight to behold and have a life expectancy that doesn't include a colostamy bag.
 



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lol, no. it ain't worth arguing. how about this disclaimer: based on my observations.

is that your quote or author's?

sorry just got done reading his book about anabolics.... very interesting idea's....

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i haven't read anything by him, so i can't comment. i've heard 'things' though.
 
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...i've heard 'things' though.
Whatever you heard it was because I was out of a job and needed the money. How did you hear about that anyways...I thought no one else was around excpet the clown and those bagpipes*shivers* I'll never forget those bagpipes.
 



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on MMI? there's a fair share of 'hefties' there as well but most have come to terms with hoping to live past 40 and have dropped down to the 308 class. i refuse to exceed 275 ever again.
Just curious Beelze, weren't you like 290lbs at one point? Do you not want to surpass 275 again because of the bf % you had at that weight, or it was just too rough on your joints / back, etc.
 
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