Power lifters and BF%

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  1. I'm not quite clear on what you're trying to say here...Something about remembering to rest and getting there by sizing your lifts?

    You might want to clarify the intent of that message as it comes in pretty damn vague.


  2. All I want to know is these massively lean dudes at 208, even the guy at 225, is how much gear it takes to get that physique with those lift numbers.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by theragingbull
    Thanks for the welcome,And keep eating and remember size
    matters.I don't know about the rest of you but I got into
    lifting too be big and you have too eat to get there.


    Size Matters
    i don't believe anyone here is disputing that. of course you have to eat big to get big. but we also have calorie restrictions. eating big doesn't mean eating out of control. the subject of this thread is very clear - morbidly obese powerlifters and the health consequences of letting your bodyweight climb into the 400-500lbs range.

  4. I don't get the high bodyfat thing either, who cares how much you can lift when you're on the verge of dying and look like a guest from the Jerry Springer show.

  5. probably dependant on the time it took them to get there. I don't know enough about the sport to comment further but I wonder if there's a reason for the extra fat in power lifters on averafe or if the strict dieting to stay at some of those low levels are felt to be too restrictive.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ktw
    All I want to know is these massively lean dudes at 208, even the guy at 225, is how much gear it takes to get that physique with those lift numbers.
    blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.
    No, but it sure makes things a whole lot easier. Genetics or not, I'm sure some of those guys have fairly large drug regimens.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.

    Beelze wanna argue that with ALR?

    j/k bro, I agree

    ~Mk

  9. Quote Originally Posted by ktw
    No, but it sure makes things a whole lot easier. Genetics or not, I'm sure some of those guys have fairly large drug regimens.
    without a doubt. i've talked to a few with their cycles and some are absolutely ridiculous. but i've seen much worse with bodybuilders. guy at my gym is a national competitor in bb'ing and told me he takes anywhere from 1G-2G's per DAY, and he considers that small time to what the pros are taking.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by motiv8erJR
    Beelze wanna argue that with ALR?

    j/k bro, I agree

    ~Mk
    lol, no. it ain't worth arguing. how about this disclaimer: based on my observations.

  11. Extremes in anything as a bad thing. I've seen too many strong assed big guys to make me believe that with hard work and proper training you can't be a sight to behold and have a life expectancy that doesn't include a colostamy bag.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    lol, no. it ain't worth arguing. how about this disclaimer: based on my observations.

    is that your quote or author's?

    sorry just got done reading his book about anabolics.... very interesting idea's....

    ~Mk

  13. i haven't read anything by him, so i can't comment. i've heard 'things' though.

  14. ...i've heard 'things' though.
    Whatever you heard it was because I was out of a job and needed the money. How did you hear about that anyways...I thought no one else was around excpet the clown and those bagpipes*shivers* I'll never forget those bagpipes.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    on MMI? there's a fair share of 'hefties' there as well but most have come to terms with hoping to live past 40 and have dropped down to the 308 class. i refuse to exceed 275 ever again.
    Just curious Beelze, weren't you like 290lbs at one point? Do you not want to surpass 275 again because of the bf % you had at that weight, or it was just too rough on your joints / back, etc.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
    I wonder if there's a reason for the extra fat in power lifters
    because the big guys like to eat and not eat clean, plus they hate cardio. you dont see too many superheavy weights eating chicken and rice w/ broccli, it's more like a meat lovers pizza hut deep dish

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    hold up, let's solve something here first. theragingbull, are you the same as from MMI? i'm suspecting not.
    come on beelze, you should know better, 6'5 265 at 10%bf??? does that sound like the ragingbull we know?

    plus where's the stay strong at the end

  18. I was just making sure that there wasn't some actual benefit. Wonder if there is an optimal % though. Like 12, 15,20...10? To power lifting?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
    I was just making sure that there wasn't some actual benefit. Wonder if there is an optimal % though. Like 12, 15,20...10? To power lifting?
    powerlifters dont count bf%

    and i'm not just sounding like an ass here, ask any big time lifter and they will look at you like you're crazy. the only thing they worry about weight wise is what weight class they are going to compete in. most train ~15lbs above their weight class then cut down right around meet time. then carb up the day of the meet and go right back to where they were. plus normally with each weight class everyone is right around the same height. the higher the weight class the taller the guys get. just how it works.

  20. Well, being new to the game i'd figure asking is better than assuming something is a way for a certain reason.

  21. I guess I'm out of the loop, but when did Chuck make the jump to the 308s? He was a 220 or low 242er last time I saw (Of course, in the realm of following powerlifting, you could say I've been living under a rock for while. So bear with me. )

  22. bigcasino, 296lbs was my highest and it was very uncomfortable. walking was a chore, lower back was always tight, constantly out of breath and sweating, etc. and i didn't see any benefit from it. i'm stronger now and leaner, so **** it.

    guy, lol. true, but there was too much in common. same handle from the same state in the same sport........if he had said he was one and the same i would have jumped all over it

  23. There's a lifter named Tim Harold that is just a disgusting human being, exactly what the thread starter was referring to, he has some videos on irongame and an interview on there

  24. It's the motion in the ocean fellas, plus it's how pretty the boat is.

    you don't need to be sloppy fat to be strong.. as many of the PLers that Guy posted pictures of at the beginning of the thread proves... first dude is a beast and is packing some lean muscle.

    I'm not really in my realm talking about PLing, but I do agree with what the majority are saying.. I just clicked on the link because I saw BF in the title, and that guy that organized cuddle parties, Jayhawkk, started it.. so I thought it would be spicy.

    Ubi

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
    Well, being new to the game i'd figure asking is better than assuming something is a way for a certain reason.
    ya never learn if ya never ask

  26. I find it interesting to see the level of cardiovascular ability by the guys doing strongman comps. Some of those guys are pretty fat, but I would consider that given their level of cardiovascular performance, they should be OK health-wise. They are humongously strong too. Them extra-fatties you only see in PL'ing. I'm not very educated on PL'ing but I would venture to say the strongmen are pretty close in strength to powerlifters in general terms. And of course that's an apples-to-oranges thing.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
    I'm trying to figure out if there's a benefit to having a very high BF % in power lifting or if it's just easier for the big guys to get into that area of lifting?

    I notice some pretty obese people power lifting and so much time and effort is put into lifting technique and proper lifting gear and wrapping joints etc, to maximize safety and minimize injury. But heavy lifting while supplemented(seems most take some form of PH or equivalent),and with a BF% that already puts you at a super high risk for all kinds of complications from back to heart. Why isn't there more people saying lose the excess fat and then bulk up a bit cleaner so to stay healthy?

    Is it because we don't like calling people out or is there an actual benefit where with the increased strength and muscle makes the increased fat a much lesser health risk?
    The optimum BF% for a powerlifter is between 18-22%

  28. Thanks Nick..That's a pretty good number considering the size of these guys...Err you guys

  29. Quote Originally Posted by NickW
    The optimum BF% for a powerlifter is between 18-22%
    For supers? Or everyone? Seems like the trend is towards being pretty lean from 220 on down at most meets I go to.
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