Power lifters and BF%
- 05-24-2006, 06:24 PM
- 05-24-2006, 06:27 PM
All I want to know is these massively lean dudes at 208, even the guy at 225, is how much gear it takes to get that physique with those lift numbers.
05-24-2006, 06:29 PM
i don't believe anyone here is disputing that. of course you have to eat big to get big. but we also have calorie restrictions. eating big doesn't mean eating out of control. the subject of this thread is very clear - morbidly obese powerlifters and the health consequences of letting your bodyweight climb into the 400-500lbs range.Originally Posted by theragingbull
05-24-2006, 06:29 PM
I don't get the high bodyfat thing either, who cares how much you can lift when you're on the verge of dying and look like a guest from the Jerry Springer show.
05-24-2006, 06:30 PM
probably dependant on the time it took them to get there. I don't know enough about the sport to comment further but I wonder if there's a reason for the extra fat in power lifters on averafe or if the strict dieting to stay at some of those low levels are felt to be too restrictive.
05-24-2006, 06:30 PM
blame genetics. gear helps but it ain't transforming anyone into a different bodytype.Originally Posted by ktw
05-24-2006, 06:31 PM
No, but it sure makes things a whole lot easier. Genetics or not, I'm sure some of those guys have fairly large drug regimens.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
05-24-2006, 06:34 PM
05-24-2006, 06:35 PM
without a doubt. i've talked to a few with their cycles and some are absolutely ridiculous. but i've seen much worse with bodybuilders. guy at my gym is a national competitor in bb'ing and told me he takes anywhere from 1G-2G's per DAY, and he considers that small time to what the pros are taking.Originally Posted by ktw
05-24-2006, 06:36 PM
lol, no. it ain't worth arguing. how about this disclaimer: based on my observations.Originally Posted by motiv8erJR
05-24-2006, 06:37 PM
Extremes in anything as a bad thing. I've seen too many strong assed big guys to make me believe that with hard work and proper training you can't be a sight to behold and have a life expectancy that doesn't include a colostamy bag.
05-24-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by Beelzebub
is that your quote or author's?
sorry just got done reading his book about anabolics.... very interesting idea's....
05-24-2006, 06:40 PM
05-24-2006, 06:43 PM
Whatever you heard it was because I was out of a job and needed the money. How did you hear about that anyways...I thought no one else was around excpet the clown and those bagpipes*shivers* I'll never forget those bagpipes....i've heard 'things' though.
05-24-2006, 06:53 PM
05-24-2006, 07:53 PM
Just curious Beelze, weren't you like 290lbs at one point? Do you not want to surpass 275 again because of the bf % you had at that weight, or it was just too rough on your joints / back, etc.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
05-24-2006, 11:58 PM
because the big guys like to eat and not eat clean, plus they hate cardio. you dont see too many superheavy weights eating chicken and rice w/ broccli, it's more like a meat lovers pizza hut deep dishOriginally Posted by Jayhawkk
05-24-2006, 11:59 PM
come on beelze, you should know better, 6'5 265 at 10%bf??? does that sound like the ragingbull we know?Originally Posted by Beelzebub
plus where's the stay strong at the end
05-25-2006, 12:01 AM
I was just making sure that there wasn't some actual benefit. Wonder if there is an optimal % though. Like 12, 15,20...10? To power lifting?
05-25-2006, 12:05 AM
powerlifters dont count bf%Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
and i'm not just sounding like an ass here, ask any big time lifter and they will look at you like you're crazy. the only thing they worry about weight wise is what weight class they are going to compete in. most train ~15lbs above their weight class then cut down right around meet time. then carb up the day of the meet and go right back to where they were. plus normally with each weight class everyone is right around the same height. the higher the weight class the taller the guys get. just how it works.
05-25-2006, 12:09 AM
Well, being new to the game i'd figure asking is better than assuming something is a way for a certain reason.
05-25-2006, 12:16 AM
I guess I'm out of the loop, but when did Chuck make the jump to the 308s? He was a 220 or low 242er last time I saw (Of course, in the realm of following powerlifting, you could say I've been living under a rock for while. So bear with me. )
05-25-2006, 12:51 AM
bigcasino, 296lbs was my highest and it was very uncomfortable. walking was a chore, lower back was always tight, constantly out of breath and sweating, etc. and i didn't see any benefit from it. i'm stronger now and leaner, so **** it.
guy, lol. true, but there was too much in common. same handle from the same state in the same sport........if he had said he was one and the same i would have jumped all over it
05-25-2006, 03:27 AM
There's a lifter named Tim Harold that is just a disgusting human being, exactly what the thread starter was referring to, he has some videos on irongame and an interview on there
05-25-2006, 03:38 AM
It's the motion in the ocean fellas, plus it's how pretty the boat is.
you don't need to be sloppy fat to be strong.. as many of the PLers that Guy posted pictures of at the beginning of the thread proves... first dude is a beast and is packing some lean muscle.
I'm not really in my realm talking about PLing, but I do agree with what the majority are saying.. I just clicked on the link because I saw BF in the title, and that guy that organized cuddle parties, Jayhawkk, started it.. so I thought it would be spicy.
05-25-2006, 10:15 AM
06-04-2006, 04:51 PM
I find it interesting to see the level of cardiovascular ability by the guys doing strongman comps. Some of those guys are pretty fat, but I would consider that given their level of cardiovascular performance, they should be OK health-wise. They are humongously strong too. Them extra-fatties you only see in PL'ing. I'm not very educated on PL'ing but I would venture to say the strongmen are pretty close in strength to powerlifters in general terms. And of course that's an apples-to-oranges thing.
06-05-2006, 04:10 PM
06-05-2006, 04:27 PM
06-17-2006, 06:10 PM
For supers? Or everyone? Seems like the trend is towards being pretty lean from 220 on down at most meets I go to.Originally Posted by NickW
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