Smith Rack Deadlift form
- 04-21-2006, 02:30 PM
You could try one legged squats with dumbells.
I knew what you're going to say guy, but my main interest aren't quite the same as you. Stil the paths to get there are similar, just a little more of this and a little less of that for a longer portion of time in you're training career.
Another silly question, do you have a home gym or have a hardcore pl'ing gym or do you just bring your wn chains and bands?
- 04-21-2006, 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by dsl
04-21-2006, 02:52 PM
i use my own bands, but i workout at a hardcore powerlifting/olympic/strongman gym. it's owned by a strongman and celtic games competitor, the only thing we dont have is a monoliftOriginally Posted by wideguy
04-21-2006, 02:58 PM
F'in A Cotton! F'in A!!
That's a nice set up bro. Imagine it helps out alot. Any input on what I've been suggesting to the stuggling college student, in terms of decent lifts to perform that meet the ****ty criterion he's laid out with his gym?
04-21-2006, 02:59 PM
try bringing in something soft to put under the plates when you dead, id do em anyway but just be quiet and dont draw any negative attention on yourself. If they ***** then say hey im not ruining the floor and im not disturbing others and i dont think they have any rational reasoning to say no anymore. If they do its cause they are ego maniacal and dont respect student becaus ethey are above you ( I hate that attitude). Good luck
04-21-2006, 03:43 PM
i highly doubt they dont have some sort of power/squat rack in the corner. 99% of gyms i've been to have them. and if that one doesnt, go to another gym on campus, someone is bound to have it. and one legged squats are ok i guess, i've never done them, but nothing and i mean nothing replaces barbell squats.
and good call somewhatgifted.
04-21-2006, 04:44 PM
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04-21-2006, 04:53 PM
04-21-2006, 05:48 PM
LoL, oh man are you correct, that is a recipe for disaster!Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
Actually I don't think smith machine and weight room go together very well either jmho
04-21-2006, 05:54 PM
I agree the smith takes you out of your natural plane of movement, that is why you back hurts, the angles are all wrong. When you do deads it isnt straight up and down. Now smith bench presses take you out of your plane, but you have to remember your spine and the shoulder ball and socket joints differ greatly.Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
04-21-2006, 09:32 PM
best decision i ever made to start going there. i drive 30-45 min but i dont care at allOriginally Posted by CRUNCH
04-22-2006, 08:34 PM
Smith machine, one legged squats are pretty good. Light weight movemnt that hasn't bothered me yet and I have back injuries i have to watch for.
04-24-2006, 11:29 AM
Yeah they're not bad but you'd get more stabilizer work out of doing them with dumbells. So based on what's available you might wanna do 1 legged dumbells squats (they're pretty hard imo so you won't need nearly as much weight as a regular barbell squat), then do you last set in the smith to not have to worrry about balancing and really focus on the full ROM and try and get a nice pump.
04-24-2006, 03:02 PM
04-24-2006, 03:49 PM
Dunno about him but i'm sure as hell not Seen too many powerlifters with serious injuries for me to go that route. Fun to watch the Powerlifting comps though.
...Just curious but I suppose as a power lifter you don't want a pump?
04-24-2006, 04:37 PM
04-24-2006, 05:52 PM
04-24-2006, 11:11 PM
Yup but it also allows you to work on your weaker leg, and focus on any imbalances you might have. On top of that in this instance I'm merely suggesting them based on the fact that our original poster has the dilema of not having a power/squat rack. Which obviously blows, no matter what type of lifter you are.
BTW, while it's Definitely not the focus of a Pl's routine. Training that illicits "the pump" IMO does have it's place to fully develop the muscle from both the BB's or PL's standpoint. Or not in your opinion guy?
04-24-2006, 11:14 PM
no, in all the stuff i'ver read, and all the big time plers i've talked to, they dont train for the pump, in fact i know a couple guys that would be pissing there pants right now talking about the pump, it's nice when it's a side effect, but it's never one of the main reasons for doing an excersize. getting shredded and muscles out the wazoo is just a nice biproductOriginally Posted by wideguy
04-24-2006, 11:47 PM
Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
the pump is your friend...lol. at any rate I most definatley train to get bigger, strength is just a side effect
04-25-2006, 12:11 AM
why be a guy who's big but weak? why not be a guy who's big and strong as a bull? ever see the 275 and under guys in powerlifting? most of them could step on a stage and wiin bbing contests
04-25-2006, 02:17 AM
Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
I have thought about training for strength, but at this point in my life I don't feel the need to be super strong. I don't think it would benefit me as a clinical psychologist either. I just want more size rather than strength.
Don't get me wrong, I respect powerlifter's. Actually my aunt and uncle used to compete at the bench press competitions and I believe that my aunt has actually set a national record or two. She scares me
04-25-2006, 05:39 AM
I don't understand why anyone would want to be big and not strong? Aern't you afraid some punk with a "little guy complex" is gonna beat the livin **** out of you?
Functional muscle seems like a worthy cause, pretty muscle, well, why?
04-25-2006, 07:35 AM
There's a misconception that if you have big muscles but aren't a power lfiter you're going to be weak. The main reason why BBr's, in my opinion, come off as weak in a lot of power lifting type of lifts is because of lack of proper form and in many cases having the joints and muscles used to those types of movements.
Those who think the ripped 19 inch arms are weak are misleading themselves. I mean I can bench over 400 which may be weak compared to a strongman lifter hitting upwards of 1k but you're still going to be stronger than a mjaority of folks you run into.
Edit:Wanted to add it's the same for those people who think to be a power lifter you have to be fat.
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