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| Banned | advice from experienced powerlifter needed Hello im needing some advice on beggining powerlifting what i have now seems sound but as a begginer I feel like I will overtrain easily I have tested for my one rep max on the squat , deadlift and bench and have made it through the squat workout and the bench work out and am very tired .Is there some form of adaption that i should be doing? I was also wondering if you guys can recommend a program or cycle to to beggin with. here is the program I started I found it on bodybuilding.com first my maxes bench 265 squat 275 deadlift 235 the program I am using right now I am on the 1st week of the strength cycle using 75% max MONDAY Squat(use the strength cycle) Olympic Squats/Pause Squats 1x3(alternate) Leg Press 4x6(heavy) Leg Extensions 3x10(moderate) Leg Curls or Seated Leg Curls 3x8 Seated or Standing Calf Raises 4x15 **Squat Walkouts(1x1) and Rack Squats(3-4x2) can be done in place of squats WEDNESDAY Bench Press(use the strength cycle) Incline Bench/Decline Bench 3x10 Wide-Grip Bench Press 1x10 Dumbbell Bench Press 3xfailure Behind-the-Neck or Front Shoulder Press or Seated Press 4x6 Lateral Raises or Bent-Over Lateral Raises 3x10 Barbell Curls 3x8 Hammer Curls 3x8 **Bench Press Lockouts(3-4x2) can be done in place of bench FRIDAY Deadlift(use the strength cycle) Good Mornings 3x10 Behind-the-Neck/Front Pulldowns 4x6(heavy)(alternate) Cable Rows, Dumbbell Rows, or Machine Rows 3x10(moderate)(alternate) Shrugs 3x10 Close-Grip Bench Press 3x10 Triceps Extensions or Dips 3xfailure Heavy Cheat Curls 2x6 Hammer Curls 3x8 **Rack Deadlifts(4x2) can be done in place of deadlifts Chart 1: Sample Hypertrophy Meso Cycle Week Sets Reps Intensity Rest 1 5 10 62% 3 Minutes 2 4 10 64% 3 Minutes 3 3 10 66% 3 Minutes 4 3 8 68% 3 Minutes 5 3 8 70% 3 Minutes Chart 2: Sample Strength Meso Cycle Week Sets Reps Intensity Rest 1 5 6 75% 3 Minutes 2 5 6 77% 3 Minutes 3 4 5 79% 3 Minutes 4 4 5 82% 3 Minutes 5 3 4 85% 3 Minutes Chart 3: Sample Power Meso Cycle Week Sets Reps Intensity Rest 1 3 4 87% 3 Minutes 2 3 3 89% 3 Minutes 3 3 3 91% 4 Minutes 4 3 3 93% 5 Minutes Chart 4: Sample Peaking Meso Cycle Week Sets Reps Intensity Rest 1 3 3 95% 5 Minutes 2 2 2 97% 7 Minutes 3 2 1 99% 7 Minutes |
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| Registered User | I would try to find pl's in your area to train with first off. I do mainly low volume work , especially when a meet is coming up. Not a lot of movements. Sat. Sq/Dl Mon. Shirted benches, close grip Tues. Back work Thurs Board presses, tricep/shoulder work I know that isn't much detail but it is basically what I do. |
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| Registered User | Check out the sticky on all the westside stuff. A good beginner program is Westside for skinny bastards at www.defrancostraining.com. That workout you have looks nearly overly complicated. I've tried researching this stuff out the ass, and I found the most simple workouts are the most effective. Make sure whatever you do incorporates plenty of posterior chain development for the lower body, and lots of back, tricep (boards, lockouts, etc), and upper back work for the upper body. Some people use a 5x5, some people like I think Guy does a very basic split that apparently is highly effective. From there, it's pretty wide open, but if I were you I would start out with something very basic, learn to deload, proper pl form and go from there. |
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| Board Supporter | those charts confuse me. and the westside stuff works but for someone who's new to the game it can get very confusing very fast. here's a routine that i started on, it's very simple and it works like a charm. i still pretty much do this routine, it just gets changed when i hit plateaus. Monday: Squats 2 x 5 Box squats 2 x 5 Leg presses 1 x 20 (pick 1 of the squats + the leg presses) posterior core movement 2 x 10-20reps heavy abs 2 x 20 hips 1 x 20-25 reps Calves (your choice of exercise if you like) 2 x 10 Wednesday: Wide grip flat bench 2 x 6 (index fingers on the rings) hammer grip dbs 2 x 8-12 reps tricep push downs 1-2 x 8-100reps. (yup 100) db side laterals 1-2 x 10reps light db front raises 1-2 x 10reps light pull-a-parts 1-2 x 20reps Friday: Dead lifts (rotate variations each week) 2 x 5 posterior core movement 2 x 10-20reps heavy abs 2 x 20reps rows 2 x 4-8reps Reverse grip narrow grip pull downs 2 x 4-8reps Standing wide grip curls 2 x 8-12 reps (or your favorite curl here) hammer curls or reverse curls 2 x 8-12reps |
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| Board Supporter | oh yea, if you dont know what a posterior core movement is it's like, glut ham raises, reverse hypers, 45 hypers, good mornings, pull thrus, stuff like that |
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| Registered User | Guy, do you do a bunch of work sets before hitting the 2x5's and stuff? |
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| Board Supporter | i do maybe 4-6 warm up sets depending how i feel, but those 2x5s are work sets, you just have to load up the weight so you are barely getting the 5th rep. it's basically balls to the wall training ![]() |
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| Banned | thanks guys this is what i needed |
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