Smith Machine, useful? or Towel rack?
- 02-23-2006, 06:45 PM
- 02-23-2006, 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
- 02-24-2006, 09:20 PM
I love the Smith machine, it keeps everyone out of the squat rack.
02-24-2006, 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by ivydude
I saw that article a few weeks ago, nice twist on uses for the smith!
02-24-2006, 09:38 PM
That's what I'm talkin' about! We only have one Rack and 2 Smith's and that rack is always empty. Today some jokers were doing shrugs in the Smith I guess that's the only way they could move 6 plates.Originally Posted by Danl4560
02-25-2006, 11:14 AM
I used a squat rack today and the only way I could do heavier squats without my knees hurting was with wraps. Are using wraps detrimental to leg development? I had a wide stance, made sure not to allow my knees to go past my toes and went to parallel as best I could. I really tried to focus on form. I'd rather do free weight squats as opposed to smith squats, but I don't want to **** my knees up doing it. Suggestions, comments?
02-25-2006, 11:26 AM
If you need to use knee wraps, go for it. IMO, the difference it'll make in leg development is splitting hairs.Originally Posted by natedogg
02-25-2006, 12:51 PM
There's going to be a point where safety is the prime factor at that point you wrap your knees. The problem comes when wraps are relied upon consistently. i.e. if I'm doing speed squats or sets of 10-15 etc. The belt and wraps stay in the bag. If I'm doing heavy triples out come the wraps, If I'm going for a PR or super heavy doubles, out comes the suit and the belt.Originally Posted by natedogg
I wouldn't worry about the knee over the foot thing, if your following good form it's not a factor. One of the biggest helps is to push your feet to the outside, this will keep your knees out. Another misconception is that going to deep is bad for your knees, when the opposite is true. Stopping a movement at half or 1/4 is more stressful to the joint than the full motion. If you don't believe this, try benching heavy(no boards or cheaters) stop at the halfway point as most do with squats. Do this continually for 4-6 weeks and let me know how your elbows are feeling. Anyway why do think most guys have little legs even though they say they squat? Well I always thought sweats sucked in the summer and I plan on making sure my Quads are bigger than my bis!
Ass to the Floor squats Rule!
02-25-2006, 01:00 PM
Back to the ole' drawing board. Basso, where in SC are you located if you don't mind me asking?
02-25-2006, 01:13 PM
Sumter, are you in SC also?
If you really want some good squat tips http://www.elitefitnesssystems.com/ has several articles on squats. Dave Tate has one in there somewhere on basic form. Most are Powerlifting specific but you have to figure if a guy a can squat a truck he must know how to squat.
02-25-2006, 01:33 PM
wrap those puppies up and wrap em tight. you really shouldnt be able to bend your knee without weight on your back if you wrap them right.Originally Posted by natedogg
02-25-2006, 07:19 PM
Greenville here. Thanks for the link.Originally Posted by Basso
02-25-2006, 07:22 PM
I love using the wraps. Just wanted to make sure it wouldn't hinder my leg development any. I don't care about PLing numbers, but I figure if you can squat a lot, your legs have to be big.Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
02-26-2006, 11:09 AM
02-26-2006, 01:52 PM
with a smith rack or wraps?Originally Posted by anadrol75
02-26-2006, 02:32 PM
Hopefully not both!!Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
02-27-2006, 03:08 AM
I'm in Greenville also. Oh sorry, with a Smith. But that is just my opinion.
02-27-2006, 05:23 AM
This is were I think alot of you are moving into dangerous ground. The reason I don't like the Smith is because it is inherently more dangerous. Deep squats are probably the best example, when you are lifting a squat up the bar is fixed, it cannot move forward or rearward. When let's say you get a little leaned over or one knee falls in, etc your body will try to adjust and compensate with other muscle groups to take up the slack. In the Smith your out of luck, your knee gives way or your back, etc.Originally Posted by anadrol75
The Smith has it's uses, heavy lifting in a Smith is dumb and dangerous. But please go ahead and stay in the Smith, that way I know the Power Rack will always be free.
02-27-2006, 06:49 AM
Cool man. I work out at the new gym on Pelham Rd, Peak Fitness. Had worked out at Gold's/World Gym and Powerhouse before that though.Originally Posted by anadrol75
02-27-2006, 08:18 AM
No ****! I work out at Peak Fitness. I hit it in the a.m. after work.
02-27-2006, 10:28 AM
Heh, small world. I usually work out with the wife in the PM after she gets off.
02-27-2006, 12:31 PM
I honestly think I could do almost every workout on it
I know some like it, some dont,.. but I dont have a lifting partner, and spots are spontanious,... and when Im ready for a set, Im ready for a set. I can also load more weight on then I would normally do because I dont have to balance. Great for blasting platoues!
02-27-2006, 01:34 PM
not to sound like an ass, but that's like saying you can ride a yamaha r-2 at 120mphs with training wheels.Originally Posted by xtraflossy
and why wouldnt you want to train your stabalizers at the same time?
02-27-2006, 01:35 PM
i'm with you on this oneOriginally Posted by Basso
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