I totally misunderstood what I just read. Really tired. Sorry about mix up.
When I got certified, the trainer said that I should be using wide grip and only going to elbows flat with floor with a one second pause the help from getting shoulder pain. It has worked so far. For some strange reason wide grip chins hurt really fing bad. Any clues on that?
Edit: Just bustin some chops. Sorry about bad timing.
there's plenty of great builders for chest out there. incline bar, incline dumb (various angles), flat dumb, preexhaust with pec deck or cable crossovers, etc. flat obviously ain't for me so i'm through kidding myself on the matter. my other chest exercises are equally as strong so i'm not worried about it, just frustrated.
You're fine. There are certain exercises I'd like to do, but don't because I, a) feel uncomfortable doing them or, b) they're too high risk and not worth injuring myself over.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
Drew, where does it hurt when you do wide chins?
i hear ya brutha. just took me a while to realize B.Originally Posted by natedogg
man i'm so sorry to hear that this happened .. again
hopefully you'll have a really speedy recovery .. good lucky buddy
Thats what I thought. Again sorry about the injury.lcsulla, are you saying flat bench is the last exercise you would pick for working the chest? if so, i agree, but unfortunately, APF (along with the rest) don't see it that way.
damn hope my fellow vcu'er has a quick recovery..
I am of the opinion that when benching Especially(and doing as much weight as you are doing) you should use protective equipment.
Injuries will give you the time and incentive to research methods to prevent this thing from happening agin,
guys in my gym will work up to 400 for a triple (no more)
and then throw on a shirt , and then proceed to do MUCH MORE.
if you want to start PL'ng (FOR REAL) then who cares what you can do raw
i am not sure exactly why you bench that freaking heavy raw,
maybe for yourself??? I mean i can understand
sorry it happened bro, use lots of horse linement.
I have the exact guy you should talk to BEEZ.....
stand by for pm.
well heres his thread,
he is a member of W-side and a while back he tore his pec.
you can read his recovery and rehab.
or just email (off his site)or call louie simmons (614) 801-2060 ask him anything. I have a few different times,
VERY willing to answer any questions or give advice, nice guy
Well then Beelzebub I guess its time to focus on speeding up your recovery. You might consider taking large doses of Cissus to aid the healing process. Hope you heal quick.
Sorry to hear about the injury.. That's the worst.. And you didn't even have any warning.. Very scary.. Heal-up quickly...
I totally hate the flat bench as well. Never have liked it, never have made it a core excercise because it just tweaks my already tweaked shoulder...and it scares me with no spotter.
After you drop 235 on your chest once, you kinda get gunshy.lol
Good luck on the recovery Beelz. My prayers are with ya bro.
I'm really sorry to hear this happened to you. I hope you recover as quickly as possible
I don't know if this would help you or not since your a PLer, but I was reading something where Jay Cutler said he won't let the bar come closer than 2" from his chest because any lower and that's where most injuries occur.
It seems to be right inbetween the medial and rear delt. It is ok for a set or two then it goes into **** you mods and I am pretty much done after that. That is just with bodyweight, no belt on either. I used to do enormous amounts of chins. I love them, it just hurts to much now.Originally Posted by natedogg
Sorry to hear the bad news Beelz. Bench Press is where most injuries occur in the gym. Usually tears happen when the muscle is coming from a stretch position (like when someone goes beyond a 90 degree angle with their elbow) Whenever a muscle is in a stretched position it's in it's weakest state, hence the injuries.
If it makes you feel better I don't bother with bench anyomore either. It puts way too much pressure on my shoulder and personally dumbells are better for you anyways. I also really love the horizontal Hammer Strenth Chest press. It puts your hands in more a natural position and it's also iso- lateral for equal stress on both pecs.
Beez that does suck big time and for some reason it always seems to happen when your feeling real good and strong.Luckily I never tore a pec but my front delts feels like someone took a sludgehammer to them..I like flat bench too when im trying to increase over all stregnth but they just hurt too much..Hope you recover soon..
Pec tears suck, i tore both of mine with submaximal weight on the bench. I think that you should have no problem benching again, if you give up on the idea of high rep, full range raw work. A lot of benchers will agree that the raw strength doesnt carry over to the shirt too well cause of groove differences etc. Anyhow when you get better, do your raw work off boards for less reps and wear a DD shirt and work in it every other week and only do full range benches in the shirt. I have felt no strain on my pecs with the low groove of the DD shirt. Anyhow you can bench in due time just train smart and recover.
Damn that sucks - I hope you heal up fast.
I hope you're mentally tougher than me, because I think I'd be psyched out on any heavy flat benches if I was injured by them 3 times.
I'm still psyched out about doing abs and heavy deadlifts after my hernia surgery. Any little twinge and I stop. LoL. But I also cry watching girlie movies, so don't worry about it.