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| | #31 |
| Registered User | Well then Beelzebub I guess its time to focus on speeding up your recovery. You might consider taking large doses of Cissus to aid the healing process. Hope you heal quick. |
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| | #32 |
| HATE CRIME LEGISLATION | Sorry to hear about the injury.. That's the worst.. And you didn't even have any warning.. Very scary.. Heal-up quickly... |
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| | #33 |
| I Know Nothing!! Board Moderator | I totally hate the flat bench as well. Never have liked it, never have made it a core excercise because it just tweaks my already tweaked shoulder...and it scares me with no spotter. After you drop 235 on your chest once, you kinda get gunshy.lol I AM watching you. Pirate, Poet, King of Despair. |
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| | #34 |
| Snuggle Club™ mascot | Good luck on the recovery Beelz. My prayers are with ya bro. No one can be a great thinker who does not recognize that as a thinker it is his first duty to follow his intellect to whatever conclusions it may lead. Truth gains more even by the errors of one who, with due study, and preparation, thinks for himself, than by the true opinions of those who only hold them because they do not suffer themselves to think. |
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| | #35 |
| Board Supporter | I'm really sorry to hear this happened to you. I hope you recover as quickly as possible I don't know if this would help you or not since your a PLer, but I was reading something where Jay Cutler said he won't let the bar come closer than 2" from his chest because any lower and that's where most injuries occur. -Chris |
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| | #36 | |
| Back on track, BACK ON STRONG!!! | Quote:
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| | #37 |
| Gate Keeper Board Moderator | Sorry to hear the bad news Beelz. Bench Press is where most injuries occur in the gym. Usually tears happen when the muscle is coming from a stretch position (like when someone goes beyond a 90 degree angle with their elbow) Whenever a muscle is in a stretched position it's in it's weakest state, hence the injuries. If it makes you feel better I don't bother with bench anyomore either. It puts way too much pressure on my shoulder and personally dumbells are better for you anyways. I also really love the horizontal Hammer Strenth Chest press. It puts your hands in more a natural position and it's also iso- lateral for equal stress on both pecs. |
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| | #38 |
| Board Supporter | Beez that does suck big time and for some reason it always seems to happen when your feeling real good and strong.Luckily I never tore a pec but my front delts feels like someone took a sludgehammer to them..I like flat bench too when im trying to increase over all stregnth but they just hurt too much..Hope you recover soon.. |
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| | #39 |
| Registered User | Pec tears suck, i tore both of mine with submaximal weight on the bench. I think that you should have no problem benching again, if you give up on the idea of high rep, full range raw work. A lot of benchers will agree that the raw strength doesnt carry over to the shirt too well cause of groove differences etc. Anyhow when you get better, do your raw work off boards for less reps and wear a DD shirt and work in it every other week and only do full range benches in the shirt. I have felt no strain on my pecs with the low groove of the DD shirt. Anyhow you can bench in due time just train smart and recover. |
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| | #40 |
| Registered User | Damn that sucks - I hope you heal up fast. I hope you're mentally tougher than me, because I think I'd be psyched out on any heavy flat benches if I was injured by them 3 times. I'm still psyched out about doing abs and heavy deadlifts after my hernia surgery. Any little twinge and I stop. LoL. But I also cry watching girlie movies, so don't worry about it. Good luck! |
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| | #41 |
| Board Supporter | Beelz, Along with everyone else, I offer my condolences. But I don't think you should give up benching just yet, because I think you have a lot of potential as a PLer. I know at this stage of the game while you're injured it's tough to see the light at the end of the tunnel, however, with your lifts, it's still there. If anything I think you can learn from this and come back stronger. First, I don't think I would ever bench that heavy (355) for 10 reps. That time under tension for the muscle and tendons is brutal and you really don't need it since you're training for a 1 RM. Second, depending on your relative tricep strength, you may actually want to consider bringing your grip in a little bit in case your pecs are genetically predisposed to tearing. The tris can be an extremely powerful force on the bench and even more important than your pec strength. Third, the lower part of the bench is brutal on the shoulders, and while that currently doesn't sound like a problem spot for you, I think you should incorporate some pre-hab RC and scapular exercises into your routine to prevent future injury. Moreover, these make you a lot stronger at the bottom of your lift. Regardless of what you choose to do, I wish you the best in recovery. |
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| | #42 |
| Registered User | I knew I stopped by this site for some reason... most of the guys I work out with don't do raw lifts with more than 355, for 4-5, and thats as high as they go (even with a 640lb bench). My suggestion to you would be to stop doing such damned heavy raw lifts, cram your ass into a fairly snug fury or f6 if your elbows are properly tucked, a karen's xtreme if you wanna get freaky, or a ragex if your form is weaksauce, and work up with that. You could even get a slightly looser "training" shirt, that will lighten the load at the bottom a good amount, prevent you from injuring yourself, and also help teach you proper form. We have the shirts for a reason home slice ![]() |
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| | #43 | |
| -Dalla Hunga- Board Moderator | Quote:
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| | #44 | |
| ego killer | Quote:
ok, first off, it's been 24 hours and there's no bruising so it must be just a pull....again. so, nothing too serious but just another notch on the 'oh ****' belt. as a few of you have suggested and with good reason, i will immediately stop going heavier than 315 raw on flat. ex, i have a double rage-x 52 ready to roll but i was just waiting to hit 405 raw for a few before throwing it on. apparently, that was stupid and i'm taking your advice to heart. i had a bencher examine my form and he said it's golden. i must say that i've got that arch and elbows in down to a science, lol. damn near turn it into a decline i'm thinking that double rage-x ain't the best shirt for me right now so i'm gonna hold on to it for later and maybe get a single ply something for the time being until i get used to it and more comfortable with bigger numbers, maybe just a single ply rage (no x). although, i've heard good things about fury and F6 also. which do you recommend for arched benchers (single ply)?155lbs incline dumbbells x 9 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4vGkrhSSSA 585lbs squat x 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=q0rpQLZT1I0 1400lbs leg press x 10 http://youtube.com/watch?v=67DXswA8w14 | |
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| ego killer | Quote:
155lbs incline dumbbells x 9 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4vGkrhSSSA 585lbs squat x 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=q0rpQLZT1I0 1400lbs leg press x 10 http://youtube.com/watch?v=67DXswA8w14 | |
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| | #46 |
| ego killer | thanks all for the comments and support, means a lot. although i'm pissed, i already know i'll be back on flat again. when it comes right down to it, i'll never be satisifed unless i'm lifting heavy weight, on any lift. like a moth to a flame, i must return to flat bench ![]() 155lbs incline dumbbells x 9 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4vGkrhSSSA 585lbs squat x 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=q0rpQLZT1I0 1400lbs leg press x 10 http://youtube.com/watch?v=67DXswA8w14 |
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| | #47 | |
| On Semi-Hiatus... | Quote:
![]() I'm guessing you'll have to get back on the bar. Unless you can track down a gym with some 200+lb. dumbells. | |
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