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    How strong was Arnold?


    Any idea how strong Arnold was in terms of what he could lift, max bench, squat, etc?

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    looks like he's benching 385 without too much of a problem
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    He won a few powerlifting comps in his early days; when he still lived in Europe.
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    pretty damn strong but i dont believe he could touch the real heavyweights nowadays, bodybuilding. (coleman, jackson,etc)
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    I could never find out exactly what his max bench was... But, I did read in his encyclopedia that he used to do cheat curls with 275, just to show off at Venice Beach.

    I don't think he's nearly as strong as the guys now, though.
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    I believe his max bench was around 500lbs....he was pretty strong. I don't know any of the other lifts, however.
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    You have to take into account that he wasn't using even close to the amount of drugs the guys nowadays do. The advances in supplements and overall knowledge have changed a whole lot over the years as well. Arnold was a badass in his day. I'd like to see how the bodybuilders of now would do in the 60's and 70's.
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    arnold looked alot better then the mass monsters of today
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba04
    arnold looked alot better then the mass monsters of today
    I concur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba04
    arnold looked alot better then the mass monsters of today
    By far. I'm always amazed watching Pumping Iron. These guys weren't just big, they had a great overall fitness level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natedogg
    I concur.
    Absolutely!
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    read where arnold said he could put up 405 for 8-10 reps on flat bench. so, probably around 500 max. might have been in his encyclopedia, can't remember exactly where he said it, but he did say it.
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    Franco looks badass in that pic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EEmain
    Franco looks badass in that pic!
    I was under the impression that Franco was stronger than Arnold. I know Franco had a world record dead for awhile.
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    Franco could Deadlift 700lbs at a weight of 185lbs....not sure if he did it for reps though, but I believe he did!
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    I wish I could find Franco's deadlifting pic for the record, I have seen it before. Arnold and Franco must have had some cell tech for sure.
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    Got this from a google search.


    Titles Won in Powerlifting:
    • Champion of Italy
    • Champion of Germany
    • Champion of Europe
    • World Champion
    World Records in Powerlifting:
    • Bench Press 520 lbs.
    • Squat 655 lbs.
    • Deadlift 750 lbs.
    Records in Weightlifting:
    • Olympic Press 325 lbs.
    • Snatch 270 lbs.
    • Clean and Jerk 400 lbs.

    Thats for Franco, dunno if Arnold had any.
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    I love that pic of franco deadlfiting and that pic of arnold squatting. There is no way anyone could possibly go any lower on that squat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by italionstallion
    looks like he's benching 385 without too much of a problem
    Yeah but look at the caption in the book. Arnold wrote that the weight on the bench in the pic was 450lbs. So...
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    Quote Originally Posted by natedogg
    You have to take into account that he wasn't using even close to the amount of drugs the guys nowadays do. The advances in supplements and overall knowledge have changed a whole lot over the years as well. Arnold was a badass in his day. I'd like to see how the bodybuilders of now would do in the 60's and 70's.
    Agreed. Arnie was in a class all his own...he was just a pure athlete all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifted
    Agreed. Arnie was in a class all his own...he was just a pure athlete all around.
    Yep, didn't Arnie play soccer in Austria?
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    austrian army too.
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    Arnold was on David Letterman one night, and Dave asked him

    what was his best bench and Arnold told him 540lbs.
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    what did they use for gear back then and what doses? test cyp? primo depot? para?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbodybuilder
    what did they use for gear back then and what doses? test cyp? primo depot? para?
    I don't know....every time this topic comes up there are stories of him using just dbol, while other people say that he (they) still had a lot of other aas back then as well....not sure what to believe other than they were pioneers in their field, that's for sure.
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    I've read he liked to use Primo depot with dbol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifted
    they were pioneers in their field, that's for sure.
    Yep, and both are leading healthy active lives decades later. Kinda blows that roids will kill you thing out of the water. My doc says roids are, in general, about as unhealthy for you as long term antibiotic usage, which is rampant in the US.
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    ...aside from arnold's major heart surgery
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    ...aside from arnold's major heart surgery
    That was a genetic issue just like David letterman triple by pass
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    ...aside from arnold's major heart surgery
    Which was supposedly congenital. Could have been aggrevated by the steroid use, but I doubt his valve problem was entirely due to anabolics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    ...aside from arnold's major heart surgery
    Yea i second that, he did have major heart surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sctxms
    That was a genetic issue just like David letterman triple by pass
    yeah and flex wheeler's kidney problems were genetic too ... the abuse of lasix etc. didn't play a MAJOR role at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    ...aside from arnold's major heart surgery
    I heard that the doc's said that was genetic, not gear related.
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    i'm not gonna challenge a doctor BUT arnold has tons of money and knows LOTS of people
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    i'm not gonna challenge a doctor BUT arnold has tons of money and knows LOTS of people
    True. But I also think that with the hysteria surrounding steroids when ever they are mentioned, that some news channel would have been all over this if it had been caused by steroids.
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    crowler you know i don't think that ... just in this specific case i think it is very possible AAS played a role
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    I think that he may have had a congenital heart condition, and AAS didnt help any. From everything I read, the surgery was to repair a defective aortic valve - usually those kind of heart conditions are present at birth. (Mitral Valve Prolapse, etc.) I think that an Aortic valve becomes defective when it becomes calcified from high cholesterol - perhaps years of methylated anabolics had his HDL so low for such a long time that it resulted in him needing heart surgery down the road.

    Still - probably would have happened anyway (perhaps later in life) - if he had never touched the stuff. Over 80,000 people every year get an aortic valve replaced - I wonder how many were professional body builders.

    We all know these, but just to make a point:

    Arnold's Peak Stats:

    Arms: 22 inches
    Chest: 57 inches
    Waist: 34 inches
    Thighs: 28.5 inches
    Calves: 20 inches
    Weight: 235 pounds
    Height: 6 feet 2 inches

    No doubt he was a big dude - but I bet he would have been a good 220-225 even if he had never touched anabolics. I doubt any of the guys back then were pounding down enough juice to cause their hearts to explode from drug use alone.

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    I heard he could do 450X8 on Bench Press
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    Arnold was pretty strong but Franco was a lot stronger. In Arnolds book he says Franco benched 500 for reps.
  

  
 

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