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  1. I didn't start using a shirt until after I did 600 raw, I maxed out too often tore both my pecs, and then decided that it would be prudent to get some protection. Tearing pecs hurts, luckilly it was just the muscles and not an avulsed tendon.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by NickW
    I didn't start using a shirt until after I did 600 raw, I maxed out too often tore both my pecs, and then decided that it would be prudent to get some protection. Tearing pecs hurts, luckilly it was just the muscles and not an avulsed tendon.
    pulled (maybe tore) my pec recently (about 3 weeks ago) and it's taking some getting used to. 425 ****ed my **** all up. totally my fault though. it was my first day back on flat in over a year and i was going for broke. i got my wish, i broke.
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  3. hey man that double rage X helped me put up a PR of 215!

  4. Beelz, is there much bruising in the area of the pec pain? if it was torn there would be sever bruising and swelling.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by NickW
    Beelz, is there much bruising in the area of the pec pain? if it was torn there would be sever bruising and swelling.
    no brusing. mild swelling. i was able to do a medium weight workout last week. hitting it again today to see if things have improved. have a slight lump that has formed from the chest into the underarm area. can't see it, but i can feel it. kinda like where there's that connector muscle that runs from the chest to the underarm-shoulder muscle. well, now, i have two connectors to that area. kinda hard to explain.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    hey man that double rage X helped me put up a PR of 215!
    shattering your previous record of 210, excellent job glen.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    no brusing. mild swelling. i was able to do a medium weight workout last week. hitting it again today to see if things have improved. have a slight lump that has formed from the chest into the underarm area. can't see it, but i can feel it. kinda like where there's that connector muscle that runs from the chest to the underarm-shoulder muscle. well, now, i have two connectors to that area. kinda hard to explain.
    I would say that you just tweaked the tendon at its attachment point, take it easy on the heavy weights. I wouldn't do anything heavier than you did for your last workout.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by NickW
    I would say that you just tweaked the tendon at its attachment point, take it easy on the heavy weights. I wouldn't do anything heavier than you did for your last workout.
    sounds about right. think i'll stick to the hammer machines for another week or so before hitting up flat again. hoping GH will assist things as well, about to give that a run for it's money.

  9. I would think it would due to the expedited healing and increased tendon strength GH is supposed to provide.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by NickW
    I would think it would due to the expedited healing and increased tendon strength GH is supposed to provide.
    yessir. spoke to a national bb'ing competitor in my gym about this. said it worked wonders for a knee injury he had. found a good price. everything kinda fell in place, figured it was a sign to try it. won't hurt to try anyway.

  11. I am sure I will be using GH once my joints/tendons start giving me constant trouble. Let me know how well this works out for you, I might start some Hexatropin before the BB4$ to help my nagging pec tendon pain.

  12. cool deal, i'll keep ya posted. should be starting up in 10 days or so.

  13. cool thanks.

  14. First off ive never used Illegal Gear/Juice and Im 300lbs,6ft 1",and got 573lbs up on bench a few weeks ago with Fury single ply.
    Raw i get around 450lbs on flat bench,but on delcine bench i get over 500lbs.I got 315lbs for 31reps on delcine also.
    I have bad shoulders and train on decline alot.
    I have alot of pain on flat bench but not on decline.When i use a shirt i have almost NO pain at all.When you start getting that
    heavy on bench i think shirts are a good idea so you dont blow out your shoulders.That is of course my opinion.I have never used
    a denim or double ply shirt.If you are doing a PL meet its almost a must that u use a shirt to compete with the others using shirts.
    I personally am glad that they allow shirts because of my shoulder injuries.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    First off ive never used Illegal Gear/Juice and Im 300lbs,6ft 1",and got 573lbs up on bench a few weeks ago with Fury single ply.
    Raw i get around 450lbs on flat bench,but on delcine bench i get over 500lbs.I got 315lbs for 31reps on delcine also.
    I have bad shoulders and train on decline alot.
    I have alot of pain on flat bench but not on decline.When i use a shirt i have almost NO pain at all.When you start getting that
    heavy on bench i think shirts are a good idea so you dont blow out your shoulders.That is of course my opinion.I have never used
    a denim or double ply shirt.If you are doing a PL meet its almost a must that u use a shirt to compete with the others using shirts.
    I personally am glad that they allow shirts because of my shoulder injuries.
    thanks for the input bro. yeah, i've come to realize that a single ply is acceptable after a certain weight, just for safety reasons.

    does a double ply give even more safety or does that just take it to a point of ridiculousness?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    sounds about right. think i'll stick to the hammer machines for another week or so before hitting up flat again. hoping GH will assist things as well, about to give that a run for it's money.
    How are those Hammer's working out for ya' brudda? Love those quotes you got!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by hulagn1971
    How are those Hammer's working out for ya' brudda? Love those quotes you got!
    i posted the workout over at MMI. it's getting there. i'm probably around 80%.

    hey hul, since you're here now, what's your view on the PL'ing equipment nowadays?

  18. From what I've read you're pointed in the right direction. Check Lattimer's posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    thanks for the input bro. yeah, i've come to realize that a single ply is acceptable after a certain weight, just for safety reasons.

    does a double ply give even more safety or does that just take it to a point of ridiculousness?
    Never used one so i dont know.
    They should either make everyone go RAW (which would suck for me) or use single ply or just let EVERYTHING go!Start Having guys wrap their elbows (with knee wraps) and Maybe even Full body wraps!!LOL!!!
    Ive only entered tested meets that only allow single ply.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    Never used one so i dont know.
    They should either make everyone go RAW (which would suck for me) or use single ply or just let EVERYTHING go!Start Having guys wrap their elbows (with knee wraps) and Maybe even Full body wraps!!LOL!!!
    Ive only entered tested meets that only allow single ply.
    are there generally enough competitors to divide it up that much? yeah, it would be great if it could be divided up into RAW, singleply, double ply, anything goes divisions, but it'd probably end up with about 1-2 competitors in each class. at least it'd be more of a level playing field though.

  21. I hated using my shirt/suit when I lifted, but when i was lifting i am glad for the support i had, yes it was a bitch to get into, did it help me throw up more weight....I dont think so.....But i felt secure....hard not to when I had those things on LOL

  22. My first shirt was a standard blast shirt from Inzer. Damn thing was like a condom too small. Went back to raw for about a year before meeting the Nazbar and Metal Militia crew. Have been through a Karin's DD, Inzer Blue DD radical, Inzer Black DD w/scooped neck, and Rage X. I now use an Inzer double Phenom and love it. My raw max is 225 (I'm sure higher than that as I have not gone max raw in over a year due to a torn rotator cuff) and I get 365 so far in the Phenom with more to boot as I work on handling the heavier weight progressively. I've got a Titan F6 on the way and anxious to try it. Been training with Lattimer and his guy Barbaccio on occasion and I am amazed at what Barbaccio can get out of his F6 (250lbs carryover). I'll admit, I'm a gear whore...this stuff is like new toys at Xmas when they come in and I am all excited to suit up and bench on Saturdays with the crew.


    Comparing raw to shirted benching for competition is like apples to oranges. So I have no particular opinion when making a comparison. There are federations out there to satisfy all the flavors of competition (raw, single ply, double ply, etc) and even oddball meets with no affiliations that have benching comps that allow touch-n-go with elbow wraps. I choose APF because I enjoy the friendships I have with the athletes in it, as well as the competition. I compete shirted single/double, whatever shirt works for me because it would be pointless for me to do raw competition with a torn rotator cuff. My shirts protect my shoulders and allow me to still bench heavy and enjoy the sport. Choose your flavor and have fun.

    BTW, good luck at the BB4$ NickW...we'll be there too, my fiance is competing in the HWT's.

  23. good luck with it bro. i think i'll be trying out a single ply in the near future. starting to like this PL'ing thing.
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