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  1.  03-17-2012  11:09 PM
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    Deadlift tips?


    Im trying to hit a 600lb deadlift. My current max is 505 at 169lb.

    I need some new training tips. I refuse to use straps.

    My current regime is once a week ill do deadlifts. Warm up -225 then ill crackout reps at 315 until grip fails for two sets then I go up to 405 for a few reps.

    I occasionally do rack pulls my main failing point is getting a good grip and my glutes. Back can take a lot.

    Anyways im a mess, any good training regiments?
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    Check out the YouTube channel "strengthcamp" elliote hulse a pro strongman covers topics like hybrid muscle, deadlift techniques, achieving true strength, strongman training, how nervous system works when lifting really heavy stuffs.

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    many thanks bro
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    Not sure if this is any help man, im sure you prob have seen this before, but heres a post i made awhile ago just linking all the elitefts training vids about bench/dead/squat.

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    Originally Posted by Newtonselite View Post
    Not sure if this is any help man, im sure you prob have seen this before, but heres a post i made awhile ago just linking all the elitefts training vids about bench/dead/squat.

    Thanks man. I do ripptoes for deadlift form, I also prefer to tuck my neck to protect my spine on deadlifts. Also...he needs some bumper plates...
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    Do not follow any of the "tips" that Elliot Hulse suggests.

    I can tell you right now that your current scheme is not ideal for strength gains on something like the deadlift. You'll need to vary the percentages of your current 1RM. When I say current, I literally mean as in what you can pull today and not your all-time PR. What style do you pull? Where's your sticking point? Assistance work?
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    do some speed work. lots of it. like 10+ sets of 2 reps. once and a while do 2-3 singles above 90%. supplement with low box squats, goodmornings, snatch grip deads and any other lift/movement that strengthens your weak points.

    if you are not sure how to put it together do a proven program like coan/phillipi or 5/3/1.
    you can call me "ozzie" for short.

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    For grip work, use an overhand grip (no hook) when training deads. It'll definitely boost your grip strength. Kroc rows work well for this, too.

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    Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Do not follow any of the "tips" that Elliot Hulse suggests.

    I can tell you right now that your current scheme is not ideal for strength gains on something like the deadlift. You'll need to vary the percentages of your current 1RM. When I say current, I literally mean as in what you can pull today and not your all-time PR. What style do you pull? Where's your sticking point? Assistance work?
    understood it was 505 a few weeks ago, currently not sure since i just came off of some meds. I pull conventional and my sticking point is usually a few inches up my shins. As for assistance work I do rack pulls/speed pulls/wrestling/stiff legged deads/goblet squats/front squats.

    I suppose my main downside is I do a lot of volume work or what people would consider over training, but I have been lifting for 10 years and my body responds to it.

    Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post
    do some speed work. lots of it. like 10+ sets of 2 reps. once and a while do 2-3 singles above 90%. supplement with low box squats, goodmornings, snatch grip deads and any other lift/movement that strengthens your weak points.

    if you are not sure how to put it together do a proven program like coan/phillipi or 5/3/1.
    ill stopped doing box squats a while ago, ill throw them back in thanks.

    Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND View Post
    For grip work, use an overhand grip (no hook) when training deads. It'll definitely boost your grip strength. Kroc rows work well for this, too.
    what are kroc rows? I youtubed and they just look like traditional dumbbell rows to me.
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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    what are kroc rows? I youtubed and they just look like traditional dumbbell rows to me.
    Heavy dbell rows for as many reps as you can, leaving 1 or 2 reps in the tank. If you go heavy enough, it should tax your grip a ton.

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    Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Do not follow any of the "tips" that Elliot Hulse suggests.

    I can tell you right now that your current scheme is not ideal for strength gains on something like the deadlift. You'll need to vary the percentages of your current 1RM. When I say current, I literally mean as in what you can pull today and not your all-time PR. What style do you pull? Where's your sticking point? Assistance work?
    What's wrong with elliots suggestion?

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    Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND
    Heavy dbell rows for as many reps as you can, leaving 1 or 2 reps in the tank. If you go heavy enough, it should tax your grip a ton.
    Dumbbells only go up to 120, can i supplement this with cable pulls? I usually put on the rope, get into a squat position and crank out reps
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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Dumbbells only go up to 120, can i supplement this with cable pulls? I usually put on the rope, get into a squat position and crank out reps
    Go for rep PR's and make sure that you do not use straps.
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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Dumbbells only go up to 120, can i supplement this with cable pulls? I usually put on the rope, get into a squat position and crank out reps
    Do what Rodja says.

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    Originally Posted by Strygwyr View Post
    What's wrong with elliots suggestion?
    Goes on useless rants and does not put nearly enough emphasis on programming. There's a reason why only HS kids are the only ones asking him questions.
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    Originally Posted by Rodja

    Go for rep PR's and make sure that you do not use straps.
    Will do. Stop when i start shoulder dipping or when my grip gives out?
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    Good luck bro! Congrats

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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Will do. Stop when i start shoulder dipping or when my grip gives out?
    Your grip will probably give out first.
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    good mornings should get your deadlift up. I'm barely past you at 514, but good mornings help alot. Look up videos of westside guys doing really heavy good mornings.

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    Originally Posted by EC1023
    good mornings should get your deadlift up. I'm barely past you at 514, but good mornings help alot. Look up videos of westside guys doing really heavy good mornings.
    Thanks bro will try this out im pretty weak on them
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