I'm buying some of these, I keep forgetting
I'm buying some of these, I keep forgetting
makes sense im getting them for standard deads and regular squats. so wrestling or chucks are the best option all around then?
i was looking at these
would they be good for regular squats or should i just go with chucks or wrestling shoes
I personally hate chucks because I was constantly pushing my feet over the side of the souls and they were always either tied way to tight or way to lose. Wrestling shoes worked great but the pair I tried were not a perfect fit so I could never wear them for more than maybe 20 minutes without my toes going numb. Work boots by far felt the most stable and supportive to me, and I was able to hit depth in them fairly easy. Finally barefoot is what I usually use for my box squatting now, but I have the luxury of squatting in a basement gym and not at a public place. Long story short, its going to be trial and error to find the perfect shoes but they can make a big difference.
Bottom line, I don't think you need PL shoes at all if you're just bodybuilding. The wood sole is meant for generating high, single moment of power, which is only meant for Snatch and C&J's.
As far as PL shoes and Dead lifts; traditionally, you want a flat heel. I think the PL shoes help with the very start of the lift, because you start so low and again, the butt & hips tend to drop downward. It takes some intentional focus to force the butt & hips in that tight back position when you're repping Deads, especially when you're going heavy and most of your faculties are focused on the weight itself; the PL shoes just help to make sure the butt & hips are back. However, I think and mostly agree, that as a general rule, you want flat bottoms for deads and PL shoes have a significant raised heel.
For bodybuilding purposes, if you have the funds and just want to try something new, I think the PL shoes are cool. That's sort of the situation I was in when I bought them. Of course I actually do perform O-Lifts, but if you're looking for something to just aid with a back squat and deads, something with a flat sole is fine. Truth be told I've never had improved numbers from any type of footwear, only improved comfort and a greater sense of ease & efficacy, but not improved numbers.
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makes sense, im leaving just into getting some asics wrestling shoes. anyone know the best model?
I'm looking into getting these to ease the pain of my forearm insertion into my ulna when I bench.
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I don't follow ws training but am familiar with it. So your using the fat bar and dropping weight to help your weak grip, to increase you regular bench is what your saying aye? Sounds reasonable..although personally I would just add in an exercise that would deal with it directly. I follow my own path though.
I also know about grip strength with bench and other exercises, although I have been blessed with very strong hands and forearms which are exercised daily at my job as well as with the exercises I already do..I also play with grips throughout the week. I have never in my life had a use for straps as I have never had my grip fail on me, even once. I would however be interested if it is increasing the regular bench press by taking some pressure off the anterior deltoid, which is often over trained without one even knowing about it. Please let me know when you have tested bp out next!
I just ordered a pair and looking to do a lot more deads and bench pressing with them once they come in.
Just received my pair today. They arrived about an hour after I finished lifting, so I'll post up some feedback here in a few days.
I used mine for my first workout (back day) I usually deadlift 225 for a warmup of 10... and 365-405 depending on the rep range..
with the fat gripz on the bar I could only do 225 around 8-10 times completely wrecked my forarms. I can't even imagine how crazy these things are goin to be for the arm workout. I also used them for shrugs and a few different rowing movements. Its sunday now and my forarms are still KILLING me... but I did have to drop down in weight but Im sure once my forarms build up that my weight will go back up and then i cant even imagine what im goin to do to the damn gym when i take them things off. basically get them... they seem great for grip/arm strength and are excellent for thick bar training (which i plan on doing from now on or doing them for like 3-4 week cycle then switch back to a normal bar)
Bench - 355
Squat - 405
Deadlift - 600
My initial impression is: holy **** these make DB rows difficult. I was only able to do my two light sets with the fat gripz before I had to take them off to do more weight. It's like you're holding the bar with your finger tips. DB presses were tough too. I've got a feeling it will take a few sessions to get used to these.
thanks guys keep me updated
Id like to get a pair of these. Wouldnt mind stronger forearms and grip. Being able to get a good workout with less weight/pain would be nice too.
Just started using these for about 3-4 workouts now. I've used them for bench (incline, flat, flyes, and close grip), military (DB and BB), curls (DB, BB, Cable), cable rows and lat pull-downs. So far I'm loving them, I feel I've been held back on deadlifts from a weak grip. We'll see how these help.
I've had generally the same impression as others post, good arm/forearm pump, lowered weight on lifts, but definitely a differernt/better feeling. I'll be doing deads tomorrow, so we'll see how it goes with the gripz on.
As a side benefit, I do think they help improve my focus on correct form (along with reducing the weight).
Good stuff, worth the money!
Hmm I want to buy these but seems like they are overpriced to me lol...40 bucks for some rubber...cool idea tho wish I would have thought of it
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