smith machine vs. barbell
- 01-26-2010, 09:09 PM
- 01-26-2010, 09:17 PM
01-26-2010, 09:25 PM
The increased stability on the smith press is going to change up the way your muscles are recruited to perform the motion. Smith machines aren't interchangeable with the bench press.
Believe it or not, the smith machine was actually a prototype to the modern day leg press. I've never seen anyone use them for their originally intended purpose.Originally Posted by rckvl7
01-26-2010, 11:28 PM
01-27-2010, 08:58 PM
I don't think it sucks. Just overrated.
I mainly dislike it when I see people doing squats on it, as it leads way to awfully botched form, increased egos, and accelerated joint degradation. But then I pause for a moment and remind myself, hey, at least they're making the attempt to work legs.
01-29-2010, 06:13 PM
Despite what others may say, you don't have to take your sets to failure, so you shouldn't need a spotter for every single workout. My training partner mostly functions as a hand-off man and stays alert in case I injure myself in the middle of a set. I wouldn't train alone without a spotter, but if you are in a gym there should be someone else around so if something went wrong someone would be around to pull the bar off of you.
Your best option is to bench in a power rack with the pins set just below chest level like someone else said.
01-29-2010, 07:17 PM
01-29-2010, 09:20 PM
Dorian Yates also knew how to squat
Dexter Jackson does the same thing. In the case of bodybuilding (as finesse as it sometimes seems) the lacking lateral motion prevents stabilizing muscular development along the torso, leading to a smaller waist. Naturally, this makes the sweep, the lats, and the shoulders look bigger.
The people I have in mind don't quite fit in this category. Instead they are novice, don't know how to squat, and use the smith machine for fear of getting caught underneath the bar. The problem of course is that they tend to develop really bad form. Also, the term ATG doesn't quite come into play with the particular stereotype I have in mind; if you don't know how to squat, chances are you haven't figured out the difference between parallel and a 90 degree bend in your knee, let alone the concept of going below parallel.
01-29-2010, 11:44 PM
01-30-2010, 02:44 PM
01-30-2010, 04:54 PM
02-02-2010, 12:54 PM
heavy smith squats by the tiny dudes... it never fails to amaze me that people will actually try to lift big weights they cant lift with bad form, all to "impress" other guys at the gym. is it really that humiliating to use a 25 lb plate or maybe just the bar to work on good form??? I think everyone here has seen someone either hurt themselves or come close just because they were trying to show everyone their nonexistant strength
02-02-2010, 01:01 PM
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