[jay21]

what can i get for pct?
i was thinkin of running nolvedex xt 4week, 60x0 4 weeks, hyperdrolx2 4 weeks, and maybe mass fx 4 weeks?

also people say no need to serm h50 but do u need to serm havoc?

[Rob Awesome]

You're running Havoc - Epitiostanol, which I'm going to strongly recommend investing in a SERM.

An Ideal/Optimal PCT would look like this

SERM - Toremifence
Week 1:
120mg (2ml) Day 1 & 2
90mg (1.5 ml) Day 3-7
Week 2:
90mg (1.5 ml)
Week 3:
60mg (1 ml)
Week 4:
30mg (.5ml)

Additionally to add to the PCT;
-Post Cycle Support
-I3C
-6OXO (Aromatase Inhibitor)
-Lean Xtreme (Cortisol Blocker)

[jay21]

big problem, i dont know where to get legit serm. i heared of a company thats starts with ore...... not gonna say the whole name cuz of rules. but not sure how legit it is

[dmangiarelli]

Originally Posted by jay21

big problem, i dont know where to get legit serm. i heared of a company thats starts with ore...... not gonna say the whole name cuz of rules. but not sure how legit it is

You could run an OTC PCT of:

Post Cycle Support/I3C/ZMA/6-oxo

Weeks 1-4 PCS/I3C/ZMA
Weeks 4-7 6-oxo 400/300/200/100

[jay21]

wats IC3?
i heared ZMA dosenty work
and why cant i use nolva XT?
and hyperdrol?

[dmangiarelli]

Originally Posted by jay21

wats IC3?

I3C is indole-3-carbinol an anti-e, antioxidant found in cruciferous veggies.

Originally Posted by jay21

i heared ZMA dosenty work

There is confilicting evedence ...

Originally Posted by jay21

and why cant i use nolva XT?
and hyperdrol?

Because you are double dosing ATD and you will shut yourself down even more ...

[jay21]

whats the point of the anti-e?

[dmangiarelli]

Originally Posted by jay21

whats the point of the anti-e?

Once your test levels come back your estrogen will rise as well due to aromatization. The 6-oxo will help to keep the estrogen at bay ...