[BigManDon]

I'm going to be starting an EPI Cycle in two months. I already have the product. I'm going to use the following below but need to know A. Is it too much, B. When in the cycle should I start them.

Cycle Support
* Perfect Cycle Liver Support
* Prima Force Cissus

AI
6-oxo extreme

SERM
Post Cycle Support

Anti-Cort
*Lean Xtreme

Test Booster
Advance PCT by AE

[delsolrob]

what are your stats? (weight, height, age, bf%, etc)

how are you going to run your cycle (dose, duration, etc) is this your first cycle?

[BigManDon]

Originally Posted by delsolrob

what are your stats? (weight, height, age, bf%, etc)

how are you going to run your cycle (dose, duration, etc) is this your first cycle?

I'm 6'3 275lb 33yrs old. BF is prob around 20%. This would be my first cycle. (I'm current running the evo stack by ALR) I was going to run the Epi for 4 weeks. Not sure if I'm going to pulse, or look to run it straight. If running it straight, I was going to do start at 10 and move up 10 a day to 40 for the first week. I was going to stay at 40/40/40 for the last three weeks. Let me know what you think?? Thanks for the help.

[delsolrob]

how long have you been training (consistantly)? at 20% bf I'd guess that you haven't been training long enough to run a steroid cycle...

whenever you run a cycle it is advised to keep a SERM on hand (nolva, torem, or clomid). post cycle support is a great product and I would rec using it on a pulse cycle but I'm not sure I would rely on it if I was running a straight cycle.

I would also consider a more modest ramp of the epi, ramping 10-20/30/30/40 or 10-20/30/40/40.

[BigManDon]

Originally Posted by delsolrob

how long have you been training (consistantly)? at 20% bf I'd guess that you haven't been training long enough to run a steroid cycle...

whenever you run a cycle it is advised to keep a SERM on hand (nolva, torem, or clomid). post cycle support is a great product and I would rec using it on a pulse cycle but I'm not sure I would rely on it if I was running a straight cycle.

I would also consider a more modest ramp of the epi, ramping 10-20/30/30/40 or 10-20/30/40/40.

I've been training for 4 years on an off. I'm in my 6th month of training consistantly (6 days a week). I know I should loose more BF thru HIIT and diet but figured I could also shed a little with the Epi.

How does the rest of my Cycle Therapy/Test Booster/AI/Anti C look? Would you + or - anything??

If I decide to pulse, I was thinking about using the chart below as a dosing guideline. How'd that be??


Week 1
40mg (start at 10mg first day and move up 10mg each day)

Week 2
40mg

Week 3
Off

Week 4
Off

Week 5
40mg (start at 10mg first day and move up 10mg each day)

Week 6
40mg

[futurepilot]

Originally Posted by BigManDon

I'm going to be starting an EPI Cycle in two months.


SERM
Post Cycle Support

you using epistane? just curious. Like Delsolrob said, check out real SERMs, PCS is not a SERM regardless of advertising. It is a natural product while SERMs are chemical agents.

Also your a big man. I dont see anything wrong your original dosage scheme of 40mgs.

But check this out Common Problems ON Cycle: What To Do?

[dmangiarelli]

Originally Posted by futurepilot

you using epistane? just curious. Like Delsolrob said, check out real SERMs, PCS is not a SERM regardless of advertising. It is a natural product while SERMs are chemical agents.

Also your a big man. I dont see anything wrong your original dosage scheme of 40mgs.

But check this out Common Problems ON Cycle: What To Do?

PCS worked for me for an especially harsh cycle of Bold/P-Plex/Trena. The Blood Work and review of what I used is here. Post Cycle Support has some promising research behind it and despite the naysayers, you the blood work is there to see and if you dig through the thread I posted my actual lab reports as well, the results are pretty damn good. There is an FAQ here.

PM me if you have any questions or just post them here and I'll be happy to answer them for you ...

[BigManDon]

Originally Posted by futurepilot

you using epistane? just curious. Like Delsolrob said, check out real SERMs, PCS is not a SERM regardless of advertising. It is a natural product while SERMs are chemical agents.

Also your a big man. I dont see anything wrong your original dosage scheme of 40mgs.

But check this out Common Problems ON Cycle: What To Do?

Yes, Epistane. What SERMS have you used in the past with success?

[futurepilot]

My pet North American Alligator likes tamoxifen citrate. The main difference between goin the OTC route and the chemical route is the chemical (SERM) has science behind it, many, many, years of science.

But in the end its a personal decision. Me personally, i would never run a cycle without a chemical agent by my side. But theres people out there who run harsh cycles like m1t, or super and dont even do a PCT. I would just rather be safe than sorry.

[Hate4TheWeak]

Just some FYI it doesnt look like you know anywhere near enough about AAS or PCT to even begin to consider running anything PERIOD!! And if you've only been training consistently for 6 months your just looking for a short cut and lacking the knowledge you apparently do running Epi will cause more harm than good by far!!
Get your training and diet in check do some researching and reading come back in a year or two and give it hell. Until then I would have to HIGHLLY advise against this. I got gyno from Epi and if I hadn't had a SERM I would have been totally fcuked!!

[dmangiarelli]

Originally Posted by futurepilot

My pet North American Alligator likes tamoxifen citrate. The main difference between goin the OTC route and the chemical route is the chemical (SERM) has science behind it, many, many, years of science.

For breast cancer research, not so much for steroid cycles ...

Originally Posted by futurepilot

But in the end its a personal decision. Me personally, i would never run a cycle without a chemical agent by my side. But theres people out there who run harsh cycles like m1t, or super and dont even do a PCT. I would just rather be safe than sorry.

For most "research chems" it is not possible to know what you are getting. Does it work? most of the time but there are plenty of cases on BB boards of people using Nolva (tamox), Toremifene, Clomid and others that have still gotten gyno. Having said that there really is only one way to know, prescription.

As you said, it is a personal choice. My choice is to have a SERM in case you may need it, I haven't needed one yet ...

[BigManDon]

Originally Posted by futurepilot

My pet North American Alligator likes tamoxifen citrate. The main difference between goin the OTC route and the chemical route is the chemical (SERM) has science behind it, many, many, years of science.

But in the end its a personal decision. Me personally, i would never run a cycle without a chemical agent by my side. But theres people out there who run harsh cycles like m1t, or super and dont even do a PCT. I would just rather be safe than sorry.

Thanks Future. I will prob go the chemical route since it's proven.